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Quote:You wait, the Battle Flag of the Army of Tennessee is going to come to stand for Liberty against tyrants who would tell us what we should and shouldn't do and what we should or shouldn't believe.


Have fun with that.
Quote:I would like to add I don't see a problem with state level or federal laws against discrimination if its the will of the people. I know you oppose that.
 

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Glad you see what your group leads to Wink
Quote:You wait, the Battle Flag of the Army of Tennessee is going to come to stand for Liberty against tyrants who would tell us what we should and shouldn't do and what we should or shouldn't believe.
The United States of Drifterica?
Quote:The United States of Drifterica?


Take me to your leader cuz dere's a squatch in dem woods..
Quote:Glad you see what your group leads to Wink
 

Appears the large group is your people, exactly as your masters want it.
Quote:Appears the large group is your people, exactly as your masters want it.


Hope the sold you a parachute and didn't discriminate against you Tongue
Quote:Hope the sold you a parachute and didn't discriminate against you Tongue
 

I can both make and pack my own.
Quote:Interesting thought. Might be the most right thing. I'm willing to accept that.


I would like to add I don't see a problem with state level or federal laws against discrimination if its the will of the people. I know you oppose that.
It is this reason that we are a representative republic and not a true democracy.  The will of the people are fickle and prone to change overnight.  Right now emotion is carrying the day.  What happens when that emotion crosses the line and some freedom you now enjoy is suddenly out of favor?  What I think you misunderstand is that those of us that differ from your opinion are looking out for everyone's rights and the long term affects of the current political climate.  Call it looking out for unintended consequences. 
Quote:It is this reason that we are a representative republic and not a true democracy.  The will of the people are fickle and prone to change overnight.  Right now emotion is carrying the day.  What happens when that emotion crosses the line and some freedom you now enjoy is suddenly out of favor?  What I think you misunderstand is that those of us that differ from your opinion are looking out for everyone's rights and the long term affects of the current political climate.  Call it looking out for unintended consequences. 
 

I can only like this once even though I agree with it X1000000000000.
Quote:You wait, the Battle Flag of the Army of Tennessee is going to come to stand for Liberty against tyrants who would tell us what we should and shouldn't do and what we should or shouldn't believe.
 

Right now the battle flag of the Army of Tennessee represents a bunch of losers.
Quote:It is this reason that we are a representative republic and not a true democracy. The will of the people are fickle and prone to change overnight. Right now emotion is carrying the day. What happens when that emotion crosses the line and some freedom you now enjoy is suddenly out of favor? What I think you misunderstand is that those of us that differ from your opinion are looking out for everyone's rights and the long term affects of the current political climate. Call it looking out for unintended consequences.
I'm sure those who fought for desegregation and women's suffrage would appreciate you calling them fickle. Since this is the same thing.
Quote:Right now the battle flag of the Army of Tennessee represents a bunch of losers.
 

 

RJ, I've seen pics of both Whte and Blacks celebrating the Battle Flag. It's a symbol of Heritage
Quote:I'm sure those who fought for desegregation and women's suffrage would appreciate you calling them fickle. Since this is the same thing.
LOL.
'Still a racist nation': American bigotry on full display at KKK rally in South Carolina:


http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/...ina-racism
Quote:'Still a racist nation': American bigotry on full display at KKK rally in South Carolina:

<a class="bbc_url" href='http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jul/19/kkk-clashes-south-carolina-racism'>http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jul/19/kkk-clashes-south-carolina-racism</a>


What sucks is that idiot who wanted to worsen race relations is getting what he wanted.
People's definition of their rights are getting broader and broader.  The government owes us nothing more than our basic human rights: protection, shelter, sustenance, clothing, and freedom.  It doesn't owe us the right to be liked or treated better or worse than others.  It doesn't owe us cell phones.  It doesn't owe us contraceptives, abortion, or even free wellness checkups.  These things and more are all privilege - not rights.  The right to not be offended is some made-up, fake,  progressive non-sense that has stuck because of America's new-found fear of conflict and conflict resolution - the wimpification of America.

 

Scientific studies have proven that the vast majority of human beings won't change their mind once their minds are made up, even when presented with hard fact.  The studies further went on to say that when a partisan side was presented with hard fact, it usually actually entrenched them deeper into their wrong opinions.  The partisan crowd on the wrong side usually searches for bad evidence which defends their side and further entrenches them.  

 

In regards to the Confederate flag and discrimination, haven't we learned that when you force it down people's throats who believe in the other side, that you only further entrench them into their position?  Since the Civil War and the Jim Crow Era, white privilege and white guilt have been shoved into white people's faces, which turns a population of them very partisan.  Why are race relations worsening in the United States, but, for the most part, the rest of the world is improving?  My opinion is that things like discrimination have to go away naturally and on their own.  You can't regulate, legislate, and enforce laws on this until the populace is ready or you'll just make things worse.  And the question of whether it should even be regulated and legislated is another issue that should be discussed entirely.  Besides the fact that it infringes on one group's freedom to protect another group's freedom, my feeling is that once the population is ready to accept legislation, it won't need to be legislated - and therefore, there is never a need for it.

Where it's race relations getting better, specifically?


I've been under the impression that racism is still a big problem. Hence all that anti racism stuff during the prior world cup...
Quote:People's definition of their rights are getting broader and broader.  The government owes us nothing more than our basic human rights: protection, shelter, sustenance, clothing, and freedom.  

 
 

FTFY.
Race relations are no problem in my area. I took a nasty fall on July 4th, dropped everything I had, lost my glasses and my hat. Fortunately there were people around me. A Real Nice black family helped me up, gathered my things and handed them to me. Of course I thanked them for their help and they were worried if I was OK. I told them nothing wounded but my pride. It all depends on the area you're in.

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