Quote:I rarely start a thread here. But go ahead and waste your time researching all of my comments, which you should have done before questioning my motives.
I'm not (oops) talking about starting a thread, I'm talking about pointing out hypocrisy with a perceived racial bias. If it truly bothers you enough to point out in this instance I look forward to you pointing it out in the future. Got to keep everybody honest.
Quote:I wasn't commenting on this case when I posted that, I was commenting on generalities. And yes, this was a high profile case..
Even still, you contradict yourself in your statement, unless you are not including yourself in the "most white ppl" statement.
Quote:Ok so you're saying she was fearing for her life up until she turned 82? Let's not forget this begins with her, so if she was fearing for her life her actions were the vehicle for that fear. Unless of course she was ashamed and didn't want to face responsibly, that would be a good reason to wait. Old ladies typically garner sympathy. Personally, the only context I'm viewing this in is she set things in motion with her words and then later helped the perps get off by lying for them. It really doesn't matter what time in history it was, something like that is never acceptable.
Could have been ashamed of what she did and finally felt she couldn't live with it anymore. Five years after the killing, she could have said something and faced zero legal ramifications. So it wasn't a fear of jail time that kept her quiet. Could have been worried about her kids having to deal with repercussions of her decision back then. I really don't know. I just know that it was a different time when the killing occurred and that she was getting abused by a husband who was willing to murder someone.
The Nazis had soldiers who I am sure were not on board with what was going on but knew that not playing along would lead to their own deaths. I have never had to be in a situation like that so I don't know what I would have done.
Quote:Could have been ashamed of what she did and finally felt she couldn't live with it anymore. Five years after the killing, she could have said something and faced zero legal ramifications. So it wasn't a fear of jail time that kept her quiet. Could have been worried about her kids having to deal with repercussions of her decision back then. I really don't know. I just know that it was a different time when the killing occurred and that she was getting abused by a husband who was willing to murder someone.
The Nazis had soldiers who I am sure were not on board with what was going on but knew that not playing along would lead to their own deaths. I have never had to be in a situation like that so I don't know what I would have done.
I agree it could've been a host of different things that prevented her from accepting responsibly but none of them acceptable considering it was her who set things in motion. She is not a helpless bystander, she is the Genesis of the situation. If those things you mentioned were important to her it would have been better to take them in serious consideration before the fact and not after. She didn't so the least she could have done is come forward sooner. This seems less contrite.
Quote:I agree with this.
But if the roles were reversed and it was an 82 year old black woman, I doubt JFC would be calling for her imprisonment.
Your analogy is a moot point.
But for the record, I never fully embraced or supported all of the Black Panther's violent actions, but fully supported their social causes.
Quote:I agree it could've been a host of different things that prevented her from accepting responsibly but none of them acceptable considering it was her who set things in motion. She is not a helpless bystander, she is the Genesis of the situation. If those things you mentioned were important to her it would have been better to take them in serious consideration before the fact and not after. She didn't so the least she could have done is come forward sooner. This seems less contrite.
Have you ever given thought to the possibility that the guys that killed that poor boy might have forced her to say that she was accosted by him?
Quote:Have you ever given thought to the possibility that the guys that killed that poor boy might have forced her to say that she was accosted by him?
Did I miss that in the interview? If so, my apologies but I still wouldn't condone her actions. How could let someone free with your testimony knowing they could commit the act again?
Quote:I do hate racist, bigoted WHITE PEOPLE, AND lazy, ignorant, uneducated BLACK PEOPLE
I noticed you didn't say racist black people..
Not a big self loather eh?
Quote:Did I miss that in the interview? If so, my apologies but I still wouldn't condone her actions. How could let someone free with your testimony knowing they could commit the act again?
I know it's hard to imagine from today's viewpoint, but there were no domestic violence laws at that time. A man could practically beat his wife to death and no one would bat an eye, and no one would help her. They had just killed a little boy for no other reason than being black, you don't think she'd be terrified she would be next?
Quote:I noticed you didn't say racist black people..
Not a big self loather eh?
Black people cannot practice systemic racism.
Quote:I know it's hard to imagine from today's viewpoint, but there were no domestic violence laws at that time. A man could practically beat his wife to death and no one would bat an eye, and no one would help her. They had just killed a little boy for no other reason than being black, you don't think she'd be terrified she would be next?
Wouldn't you be more terrified they were going to go out and kill another little boy for no reason? That would trump my own personal safety. We really can't afford to have kid killers among us.
Quote:Wouldn't you be more terrified they were going to go out and kill another little boy for no reason? That would trump my own personal safety. We really can't afford to have kid killers among us.
It's easy to say that when you're not the one getting beat and fearing for your life.
Quote:It's easy to say that when you're not the one getting beat and fearing for your life.
We're talking about kid killers here. Abuse is horrible but I think we can agree kid killing is worse. Or maybe we can't agree...
Quote:We're talking about kid killers here. Abuse is horrible but I think we can agree kid killing is worse. Or maybe we can't agree...
Killing is worse, but neither one of us is in fear for our lives when having to make the choice on what to do. We can say what we think we would do, but you never really know until you're in that position.
Quote:Killing is worse, but neither one of us is in fear for our lives when having to make the choice on what to do. We can say what we think we would do, but you never really know until you're in that position.
If you choose self preservation in the face of letting someone who tortured then murdered a boy free that's your business. You're not free from criticism and surely don't have my sympathy. That's totally operating without a conscious. The child's mother was able to smell the body before even knowing it was her own. As a mother, I would think Carolyn's sympathy would be there, but yeah her life was deemed the priority.
Quote:Lol.
I know.. I just shook my head and moved along..
Quote:Lol.
I know, black people just oppressing whites and reversing the status quo is hilarious right?