Quote:Your views have changed that doesn't represent society as a whole. The majority of people that once thought homosexuality was immoral still do, the difference is many of them like myself accept that it's not for the state to dictate their belief system on anyone else.
Same goes for weed, it's not that "more" people are accepting of weed, it's more people realize that prohibition never has and never will work.
Polls show that by a large majority, most people do not think homosexuality is immoral. It's a 20 point margin in the latest Gallup poll. In 2007, most people thought homosexuality was immoral.
Quote:Polls show that by a large majority, most people do not think homosexuality is immoral. It's a 20 point margin in the latest Gallup poll. In 2007, most people thought homosexuality was immoral.
So your saying in less then 10 years people have changed their views of morality
Quote:Polls show that by a large majority, most people do not think homosexuality is immoral. It's a 20 point margin in the latest Gallup poll. In 2007, most people thought homosexuality was immoral.
Shocker given the control the liberals have via televeison the media and pop culture. They keep shoving their agenda out there, I guess it proves advertising works.
The sheep will follow.
Mind control.
If more people were coming to the conclusion of homosexuality not being immoral without the above "
assistance" , It would mean more to me.
People don't have minds of their own anymore. Especially true of the younger generation.
Quote:Shocker given the control the liberals have via televeison the media and pop culture. They keep shoving their agenda out there, I guess it proves advertising works.
The sheep will follow.
Mind control.
If more people were coming to the conclusion of homosexuality not being immoral without the above "assistance" , It would mean more to me.
People don't have minds of their own anymore. Especially true of the younger generation.
still I disagree, I don't think people's view of what is or isn't moral changes all that much or that often. Morals are subjective, it's something people are taught or an opinion they form that is 100% subjective to their view of life and what the purpose of life is.
Saying people have flipped their moral believing because of pop culture is devaluing their core belief system in the first place. How strongly do I really believe something if I'll flip it based upon pop culture.
No I believe people are more tolerant today, I believe people are tired of moral legislation trying to dictate behavior, I believe people are more live and let live but that doesn't mean they've changed what they view as more or immoral.
People that thought homosexuality was moral before still do, and people that thought it was immoral still do, the difference is most now agree it's not governments role to decide,
Quote:still I disagree, I don't think people's view of what is or isn't moral changes all that much or that often. Morals are subjective, it's something people are taught or an opinion they form that is 100% subjective to their view of life and what the purpose of life is.
Saying people have flipped their moral believing because of pop culture is devaluing their core belief system in the first place. How strongly do I really believe something if I'll flip it based upon pop culture.
No I believe people are more tolerant today, I believe people are tired of moral legislation trying to dictate behavior, I believe people are more live and let live but that doesn't mean they've changed what they view as more or immoral.
People that thought homosexuality was moral before still do, and people that thought it was immoral still do, the difference is most now agree it's not governments role to decide,
Regarding your second sentence...lol, um, exactly. These aren't people with a strong core belief system to begin with. I'm sure its not 100% but many of the younger generation are indeed "stand for nothing/ fall for anything" types.
As for your 3rd sentence point....its still happening - its just from a different source. They're just too dumb to realize it. They think they're so groundbreaking.
I believe in part people's opinions have changed, because they've known gay people. Not everyone, of course. But a few people.
Growing up, I always believed it was wrong. Then I met a gay person, and we became friends -- and I stopped having that view. One of my best friends is a lesbian, and I'm hoping to attend her wedding in the near future.
Quote:People that thought homosexuality was moral before still do, and people that thought it was immoral still do, the difference is most now agree it's not governments role to decide,
Oh look, Eric speaking for everyone again. He sure stays up on the high horse.
Quote:I believe in part people's opinions have changed, because they've known gay people. Not everyone, of course. But a few people.
Growing up, I always believed it was wrong. Then I met a gay person, and we became friends -- and I stopped having that view. One of my best friends is a lesbian, and I'm hoping to attend her wedding in the near future.
That's impossible because Eric says so.
Quote:I believe in part people's opinions have changed, because they've known gay people. Not everyone, of course. But a few people.
Growing up, I always believed it was wrong. Then I met a gay person, and we became friends -- and I stopped having that view. One of my best friends is a lesbian, and I'm hoping to attend her wedding in the near future.
I know gay people, I even have a gay male in my wife's family that I'm very close with. He comes with his boyfriend to our house for thanksgiving because his family doesn't invite him to their thanksgiving. He knows my feelings on his lifestyle and is respectful of that at our house. It doesn't change how I feel about him, he's family. Just like I know people that are alcoholics, it doesn't change how I feel about them, it doesn't mean I approve of their choices.
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Oh look, Eric speaking for everyone again. He sure stays up on the high horse.
You've got a problem with me on some personal level, I'm not sure why but it's becoming obvious. I'm not speaking for everyone, I'm debating my position. I don't think people's views on morals change so easily.
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That's impossible because Eric says so.
Quote:Shocker given the control the liberals have via televeison the media and pop culture. They keep shoving their agenda out there, I guess it proves advertising works.
The sheep will follow.
Mind control.
If more people were coming to the conclusion of homosexuality not being immoral without the above "assistance" , It would mean more to me.
People don't have minds of their own anymore. Especially true of the younger generation.
So you're saying you are that easily swayed? Oh, not you, just all those other people?
Thank goodness we have you to be the arbiter of morality and taste.
You do realize you look sillier and sillier, don't you? You don't?
Quote:I believe in part people's opinions have changed, because they've known gay people. Not everyone, of course. But a few people.
Growing up, I always believed it was wrong. Then I met a gay person, and we became friends -- and I stopped having that view. One of my best friends is a lesbian, and I'm hoping to attend her wedding in the near future.
Theres also probably truth in the above, especially parents that have gay children. Parents will usually rationalize something when its their kids doing it. See how most parents are today in terms of behavioral issues at school with their own kids - It CANT be little Johnny's fault, it gotta be the schools fault so time to sue the school....
Quote:Shocker given the control the liberals have via televeison the media and pop culture. They keep shoving their agenda out there, I guess it proves advertising works.
The sheep will follow.
Mind control.
If more people were coming to the conclusion of homosexuality not being immoral without the above "assistance" , It would mean more to me.
People don't have minds of their own anymore. Especially true of the younger generation.
If this were true, wouldn't we all be liberals?
Quote:still I disagree, I don't think people's view of what is or isn't moral changes all that much or that often. Morals are subjective, it's something people are taught or an opinion they form that is 100% subjective to their view of life and what the purpose of life is.
Saying people have flipped their moral believing because of pop culture is devaluing their core belief system in the first place. How strongly do I really believe something if I'll flip it based upon pop culture.
No I believe people are more tolerant today, I believe people are tired of moral legislation trying to dictate behavior, I believe people are more live and let live but that doesn't mean they've changed what they view as more or immoral.
People that thought homosexuality was moral before still do, and people that thought it was immoral still do, the difference is most now agree it's not governments role to decide,
I'm not sure what you mean by that, but if you mean that everyone who thought it was immoral still think it's immoral, you are wrong. In 2007, (according to the Gallup Poll) by a 49-47 majority, people thought homosexuality was immoral. In 2014, by a 58 to 38 margin, people do NOT think homosexuality is immoral.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/1651/gay-lesbian-rights.aspx
Quote:If this were true, wouldn't we all be liberals?
Most of the youth nowadays seem to be - or agree with almost every liberal agenda, anyway.
The mind control via media/ TV/ Common Core is working.
Quote:Most of the youth nowadays seem to be - or agree with almost every liberal agenda, anyway.
The mind control via media/ TV/ Common Core is working.
I guess you better go ahead and move to another country, then, because if what you say is true, then the liberals are going to win every election from now on!
Quote:I guess you better go ahead and move to another country, then, because if what you say is true, then the liberals are going to win every election from now on!
LOL, you say the above in jest. Its already happening.
Quote:You've got a problem with me on some personal level, I'm not sure why but it's becoming obvious. I'm not speaking for everyone, I'm debating my position. I don't think people's views on morals change so easily.
I'm telling you that my opinion on whether it is moral or not to smoke weed has been influenced greatly by learning about how harmless the drug is. You are telling me that this is not possible and that I am, for lack of better words, lying. Another poster has stated that his opiniong on whether or not homosexuality is moral has been greatly influenced by learning more about homosexuality throug his friend. You are saying that is not possible.
Quote:Shocker given the control the liberals have via televeison the media and pop culture. They keep shoving their agenda out there, I guess it proves advertising works.
The sheep will follow.
Mind control.
If more people were coming to the conclusion of homosexuality not being immoral without the above "assistance" , It would mean more to me.
People don't have minds of their own anymore. Especially true of the younger generation.
Hot take, 40 yr old virgin.
Biologically unnatural from a procreation standpoint? Obviously. Immoral? Not for me at least. Should homosexuals be allowed to marry and enjoy the same legal and financial rights and benefits as straight couples? Absolutely.