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I see some of the comments on here and not sure what people were seeing. Overall I thought we did pretty well. It was also really great to see Bortles play well and look extremely comfortable in the pocket. That to me was huge. And he commanded the offense. Had a nice adjustment at the line on the pass for 25-30 yards.

Quote:I see some of the comments on here and not sure what people were seeing. Overall I thought we did pretty well. It was also really great to see Bortles play well and look extremely comfortable in the pocket. That to me was huge. And he commanded the offense. Had a nice adjustment at the line on the pass for 25-30 yards.

I hope he plays just as well versus Tampa Bay. I'm excited about this kid.

Quote:Aka a scrimmage.

Exactly what it was....  Went last night, great atmosphere for the family..good time.

Quote:I see some of the comments on here and not sure what people were seeing. Overall I thought we did pretty well. It was also really great to see Bortles play well and look extremely comfortable in the pocket. That to me was huge. And he commanded the offense. Had a nice adjustment at the line on the pass for 25-30 yards.

 

For a guy who is supposedly a raw rookie and going to sit for the whole year Bortles looked pretty good. He's going to test the regime's patience when Henne is losing game after game this year. It's going to be tempting to throw him in there.

Quote:My quick takes from the scrimmage.


1. Bortles looked far more comfortable out there than Henne. I know it was against the second string, but he looked like the true pocket passer this team has been missing for a LONG time. Bortles also seemed more willing to throw it intermediate/deep, though he may be have had more opportunities, tough to tell from the feed. Both positives for Bortles though.


2. First team offensive line seemed to hold their own in the passing game, run game not so much. They weren't pancaking anyone, but for the most part they gave the Henne some time to throw. If there was a weak point in the pass blocking, it was from the interior. Tried to focus on Joeckel every so often and he did fine to me.


3. Hurns and Brown stood out on offense. Both were able to make some nice catches, but each did bobble an easy ball. Not a bad showing from a pair that should be be fourth and fifth options.


4. Batted balls. Defense line was able to get at least three of them in the scrimmage and Branch and Marks each had one. Hopefully it wasn't simply a case of playing against Chad and that can continue into the regular season.


5. Linebackers played well. LaRoy Reynolds had a pick negated by a penalty and Telvin Smith was flying around. Smith wasn't afraid to hit his opponent and as Shadrick/Sexton pointed out, that drew the ire of Bradley during what should have been minimal contact.

ah, thanks for the post

The T-U had the stats for both qbs..

 

Henne 14-22 75yds

 

Bortles-9-13 79yrds 1td

Quote:Where do you think the weak links were?

 

How did Joeckel look?  Do you think, based upon his performance in the scrimmage, that he can be counted upon to be the strength of the OL?

 

Sorry it took so long to get back to you.


 

I didn't watch the OL specifically. It was just a general impression. The run game was frequently stuffed at the LOS and IIRC (and there was no replay) both of Henne's batted passes were batted behind the LOS. It seemed most of the penetration was against the right side of the OL. Alualu was getting into the backfield a lot against the 2nd team OL.


It takes the line a lot longer to gel, and there are three new starters (four if you count Joeckel). So maybe the problem will be solved by the start of the season. but it looks like the biggest problem is that the OL lacked strength.

Quote:The T-U had the stats for both qbs..

 

Henne 14-22 75yds

 

Bortles-9-13 79yrds 1td

 

Seems about right. Henne was a bunch of short passes and checkdowns and several into the hands of defenders.

 

Bortles was more aggressive with the ball.

Quote:I think you've made that clear about 18 times in this thread.

Actually that was my first mention of Henne in this thread, but thanks for playing.

Quote:He may suck but Sexton knows nothing about football. Don't go by what he says.

 

 

You do realize Sexton has been calling every play for the Jaguars since their inception.

Quote:The T-U had the stats for both qbs..

 

Henne 14-22 75yds

 

Bortles-9-13 79yrds 1td

Actually he had two TD passes in the goal line situation, one to Bumphis and one to Tialavea.

Quote:Actually he had two TD passes in the goal line situation, one to Bumphis and one to Tialavea.

I think the second "TD" was a two point conversion play.

Quote:I think the second "TD" was a two point conversion play.

and TD not called because the ref said he was touched might have been a TD also

Quote:I still say let Henne take the rough start of the season, give the line time to get their feet under them, and let him in 6-7.  Though I think he'll be in by 5, after Henne has an "injury". 

 

 

I recall how this plan backfired with Byron. Remember how Brunell was preparing to play the season, and then week three they opted to pull him for Byron. It was tough for the rook at first because he hadn't been getting the snaps. It was similar with Gabbert because he wasn't announced the starter until after the final Preseason game. If there's any chance that Bortles might have to play before mid-season, then the earlier they make the move the better so he can get the starter reps.

Quote:I recall how this plan backfired with Byron. Remember how Brunell was preparing to play the season, and then week three they opted to pull him for Byron. It was tough for the rook at first because he hadn't been getting the snaps. It was similar with Gabbert because he wasn't announced the starter until after the final Preseason game. If there's any chance that Bortles might have to play before mid-season, then the earlier they make the move the better so he can get the starter reps.

 

You are wrong on a few points.

 

In 2003, the team was 0-3 with Brunell. He was playing bad and injured his elbow against Indianapolis. And I doubt playing Leftwich as a rookie had any impact on his career. So I am not sure how it "backfired".

 

And Gabbert wasn't named the starter after the final preseason game. Luke McCown was. McCown was brutally awful aganst the Jets and got yanked. Del Rio was desperate to save his job and named Gabbert the starter.

Quote:You are wrong on a few points.

 

In 2003, the team was 0-3 with Brunell. He was playing bad and injured his elbow against Indianapolis. And I doubt playing Leftwich as a rookie had any impact on his career. So I am not sure how it "backfired".

 

And Gabbert wasn't named the starter after the final preseason game. Luke McCown was. McCown was brutally awful aganst the Jets and got yanked. Del Rio was desperate to save his job and named Gabbert the starter.

 

 

Ok...thanks for correcting me as I didn't spend the time to look things up. The point was that both rooks didn't get much in the way of starters reps in training camp causing them to get thrown into action without adequate practice. Of course in Byron's case his lack of reps also had to do with him holding out for so long.

Quote:I see some of the comments on here and not sure what people were seeing. Overall I thought we did pretty well. It was also really great to see Bortles play well and look extremely comfortable in the pocket. That to me was huge. And he commanded the offense. Had a nice adjustment at the line on the pass for 25-30 yards.

 

Blake's poise in the pocket is not the question with him. For him to display that on scrimmage should be expected of him. Its the mechanics that still needs work. He did outplay Henne yesterday (albeit 2v2 instead of against the 1s), which is a bad thing for us this season, as its quite possible that in spite of Blake's mechanics, that we might get tempted to put him in there if he continues to outplay Chad.

Henne looks so mediocre. Bortles looks so poised.


#tweetsfromnextfridaynight

Quote:Henne looks so mediocre. Bortles looks so poised.


#tweetsfromnextfridaynight

 

We're not used to poised rookie QBs,were used to scared ones,lol

Quote:Sorry it took so long to get back to you.


 
I didn't watch the OL specifically. It was just a general impression. The run game was frequently stuffed at the LOS and IIRC (and there was no replay) both of Henne's batted passes were batted behind the LOS. It seemed most of the penetration was against the right side of the OL. Alualu was getting into the backfield a lot against the 2nd team OL.

It takes the line a lot longer to gel, and there are three new starters (four if you count Joeckel). So maybe the problem will be solved by the start of the season. but it looks like the biggest problem is that the OL lacked strength.

Thanks. Though I unfortunately did not see the scrimmage, I have long feared the OL would be a problem this year, especially early. You are usually good in your football takes, so if that is any indicia it may be tough sledding early on, even against the softer defenses.