But clearly the right in Congress could not have used their time and our tax dollars any better than calling over 50 votes to repeal ACA which bears a striking resemblance to the plan implemented on a state level by the last Republican presidential candidate.
Quote:The house has actually done quite a bit, passing budgets and other legislation that has been sitting on the Senate Majority Leader's desk.
Like? Be specific, explain how the bills they've been passing would help with implementing the President's mandate?
From day 1 of his presidency, there's never been a legitimate attempt to work with republicans. His entire focus has been on dividing them
Specifically how has he done this? Be sure to cite something that actually happened and give us a link to it, you know, so we can all become as educated on this as you are.
We'll also just ignore the pesky little fact that for the first 2 years of his administration, he could do pretty much anything he wanted with majorities in BOTH houses of congress, and he decided to go all in with ObamaCare, foregoing all other issues in favor of his beloved, all knowing government taking control of 1/6 of our economy. There were other much bigger issues he could have tackled, but he chose this one, while ignoring things like unemployment, energy independence, immigration reform, or a host of other missed opportunities. Between ObamaCare and blaming Bush for everything, that pretty much encapsulates his entire presidency to date, unless you want to toss in the fact that this administration loves to call themselves a force for unity as they go out and target individuals and organizations with the full force of the government. For being such a unifying presence, he sure knows how to divide a nation.
He had 3 months during his first term with control of both houses. He got the ACA (something I hate) done. He also got the federal stimulus, in which he bent over backwards to appease republicans, done. You seem to really be up on this, though, so go ahead and tell me why I'm incorrect in my assertion that he didn't have a filibuster proof majority before Al Franken was seated and after Ted Kennedy died.
As far as "single payer" goes, judging from what a tremendous job they've done with the implementation of ObamaCare so far, we're fortunate he didn't get what he really wanted. It's already a colossal failure. That would just add an exclamation point to the ineptitude that is the Obama administration.
As far as I can tell single payer isn't what he "really wanted" because he never even made any kind of push for it. Which is quite the shame. Having medicare for all would undoubtedly bend the cost curve like we need to (assuming the republicans didn't neuter the program as they did with medicare part D) while simultaneously granting 100% coverage across the nation, just like Canada.
Jimmy Carter probably sends Barry a thank you card every day for making his presidency look not so bad in comparison.
I look forward to your well researched and reasoned response, Junior.
Quote:I look forward to your well researched and reasoned response, Junior.
The President has no mandate. The emergency of the Tea Party and subsequent flip of the House shows that the American public wanted a leash on his socialistic tendencies, especially after the craptastic legislation that is TARP and the ACA.
"I won."
You demonstrate a complete lack of understanding regarding healthcare if you think Medicare for all is a good idea. Medicare rates close private practices, so if you want a world full of "C" student, government employed physicians run like the VA, be my guest. I want no part of it.
Quote:The President has no mandate. The emergency of the Tea Party and subsequent flip of the House shows that the American public wanted a leash on his socialistic tendencies, especially after the craptastic legislation that is TARP and the ACA.
The nation spoke in 2012. More dems received votes for the house of representatives than repubs, it was gerrymandering by republican state legislatures that allows the republicans to keep control of that legislative chamber.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonk...a-mandate/
Additionally Obama easily won reelection in 2012.
The actual national mandate is for the sort of moderate approach that Obama and the Dems have displayed, but thanks to the laziness of Dems in local and state elections the repubs get to have the numbers right now.
It will be interesting to see if that continues as the demographics continue to tilt away from the republican stronghold of scared, old, and white.
Quote:The nation spoke in 2012. More dems received votes for the house of representatives than repubs, it was gerrymandering by republican state legislatures that allows the republicans to keep control of that legislative chamber. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonk...a-mandate/
Additionally Obama easily won reelection in 2012.
The actual national mandate is for the sort of moderate approach that Obama and the Dems have displayed, but thanks to the laziness of Dems in local and state elections the repubs get to have the numbers right now.
It will be interesting to see if that continues as the demographics continue to tilt away from the republican stronghold of scared, old, and white.
It absolutely will continue to tilt from the responsible to the leeches. Obama is guaranteeing that right now with his voter drive at the southern border.
Quote:It absolutely will continue to tilt from the responsible to the leeches. Obama is guaranteeing that right now with his voter drive at the southern border.
There's that republican fear.
SomeONE actually voted "excellent", lol....
Thats obviously either as a "joke" or it was Brian.
Quote:There's that republican fear.
Your hero is granting amnesty to 6 million illegals. The Republicans are giving in without much of a fight.
That's not fear, it's fact.
It's also foolish.
Quote:Your hero is granting amnesty to 6 million illegals. The Republicans are giving in without much of a fight.
That's not fear, it's fact.
It's also foolish.
No, that's too much fox news at work.
Of course if you want to talk about amnesty look to Reagan:
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2014/0...ld-reagan/
Quote:FTFY. You're welcome.
It's ok homie, we all know from your past posting that you're the telethon kind of "special."
Quote:It's ok homie, we all know from your past posting that you're the telethon kind of "special."
Is that the "royal we" or do you have a mouse in your pocket?
Quote:Yep, the man was a fool for trusting that the lying democrats would hold up their end of the bargain.
But that trickle down economics thing worked out okay for the middle class.
Quote:But that trickle down economics thing worked out okay for the middle class.
Things just aren't good enough for the wealthy yet, give it a few more years and a few more tax breaks, you'll see!
Quote:Easy to point fingers and complain. Any solutions for 2016?
Santorum, Bachmann, Palin? Aka Larry Curly and Moe. Then there's Guvnah Perry of Texas, who still doesn't look smarter with his new glasses. Christie? Viable, but has baggage, as does Cruz. Rubio? Maybe, as long as he can stay hydrated.
The GOP has no viable candidate that they will rally around.
When Mitt was the last choice, über right Limbaugh chastised the choice for months. Yeah, that helped.
Simply put, they beat themselves.
Money is the factor. Even a foreign company can donate if they have any affiliation here.
If Hillary runs, as I've mentioned before, I'm betting she wins. If she doesn't, it could be close. If its Elizabeth Warren or Biden then the GOP has a shot. But please, not another cluster * like McCain Palin. That was a nightmare.
As a Conservative, I could honestly care less about Palin, Bachmann, and Christie. Perry is a little too far right for some moderates, and Cruz and Rubio have a chance, but it will be a tough battle for them and anybody who wins the GOP nomination. The strongest, and in my opinion the only candidate who has a real chance of turning this Country around is Rand Paul. But he'll have to go toe to toe with the Hillary machine.
Obama's a clown. He's a hard left liberal who believes government is the answer to any problem. He's also mired in hypocrisy, like when he blathers on about compromise. Luckily, his run to greatly expand government came to a crashing halt in 2010, or we'd be in much worse shape now.
Quote:But clearly the right in Congress could not have used their time and our tax dollars any better than calling over 50 votes to repeal ACA which bears a striking resemblance to the plan implemented on a state level by the last Republican presidential candidate.
Oh, you mean that act that was rammed through without one single vote of approval from the right? You mean the one that the president unilaterally has changed a handfull of times already (Illegally so, BTW)
You mean that act?
You mean that bill that that nasty old hag said had to be passed in order to find out what was even in it?
PS: Can I still keep my doctor and health plan if I like them PERIOD? :whistling:
Quote:PS: Can I still keep my doctor and health plan if I like them PERIOD? :whistling:
As long as your employer and insurance company allow you to, sure.
That said the act was moronic and tried WAAAAAAAAAAAAY too hard to appease republicans who would never be appeased anyway, which is why Single Payer should have been rammed through.
If you're going to unilaterally implement a plan it would be good to actually implement a good plan instead of the garbage corporate welfare handout that we got.