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Quote:I don't think anyone can really answer that question.

 

Henne has never played with a good team.  He played with the horrible dolphins then got sent to the rebuilding Jags.  IDK know how good he could be with a strong supporting cast.

 

He is atleast average.  10x better than gabbert

 

We don't need to see Gabbert playing with the 49ers or Seahawks to be assured that he is bad. Same with Henne.

 

If he was good he'd make the team around him look better.

Quote:I don't think anyone can really answer that question.

 

Henne has never played with a good team.  He played with the horrible dolphins then got sent to the rebuilding Jags.  IDK know how good he could be with a strong supporting cast.

 

He is atleast average.  10x better than gabbert

 

I take it you think we should sign David Carr then?

Quote:We don't need to see Gabbert playing with the 49ers or Seahawks to be assured that he is bad. Same with Henne.

 

If he was good he'd make the team around him look better.

I am not calling Henne a star but I think he could be a serviceable QB under the right situation. If You put Tom Brady, Manning, or any other great QB behind the 2013 Jaguars roster they would all struggle. I think he is a better Qb than DIlfer, Brad Johnson, and a few other Qbs who won the superbowl. 

Quote:I don't think anyone can really answer that question.


Henne has never played with a good team. He played with the horrible dolphins then got sent to the rebuilding Jags. IDK know how good he could be with a strong supporting cast.


He is atleast average. 10x better than gabbert

Hahahahahaha!!! Slowly Step away from the Dave & Gus juice...

Quote:I am not calling Henne a star but I think he could be a serviceable QB under the right situation. If You put Tom Brady, Manning, or any other great QB behind the 2013 Jaguars roster they would all struggle. I think he is a better Qb than DIlfer, Brad Johnson, and a few other Qbs who won the superbowl. 

 

What you're basically saying is that if the team around him were good enough he could be carried. You're wrong about that, but I understand what you're saying.

 

The texans thought they could do the same with Schaub, they found out that you really can't carry a bad QB once you get to the playoffs.

Quote:He's going to be most improved player this upcoming season, a Kurt Warner type season, Super Bowl.

Agreeded

Quote:I am not calling Henne a star but I think he could be a serviceable QB under the right situation. If You put Tom Brady, Manning, or any other great QB behind the 2013 Jaguars roster they would all struggle. I think he is a better Qb than DIlfer, Brad Johnson, and a few other Qbs who won the superbowl. 

A serviceable QB = a fairly decent (at best) backup.  This team needs more than a decent backup QB running the offense. 

 

Guys like Brady and Manning are a rare breed that can elevate the play of those around them.  For Henne, everything around him has to be going absolutely perfectly in order for him to be average, and even then, he has the ability to make boneheaded mistakes that prove costly. 

 

Using Dilfer and Johnson as comparisons is borderline laughable because neither player won a Super Bowl on their own.  Dilfer had arguably one of the best defenses in the history of the NFL to hide his mediocrity behind. The Ravens had the 14th ranked offense in 2000.  They were the 22nd ranked passing offense. 5th ranked rushing offense.  Dilfer did a good job of just staying out of the way.

 

The year Tampa won the Super Bowl with Brad Johnson at the helm, it once again had more to do with a great defense than a powerhouse passing attack.  Tampa had the top rated defense in the league that year.  They had the 18th rated offense, 15th passing, 27th rushing.  In the Super Bowl, Tampa scored 48 points in their win.  21 of those points were scored by the defense. 

 

Where Johnson was better than Henne is they both avoided costly mistakes.  In his Super Bowl year, Johnson threw 6 picks vs. 21 TDs during the regular season.  Dilfer was a game manager similar to Henne who just happened to play on a team where they had a dominant rushing attack, and a great defense.  He didn't have to do a whole lot, and his stats support that completely.

 

Henne doesn't have a top rated defense.  He doesn't have a top rated rushing attack.  When things are going well, Henne still finds ways to undermine himself.  It's in his DNA. 

 

Henne is the starter because he's cheap, he knows the offense and the personnel, and he won't put up much of a fight when they identify and advance the guy they actually want as their long-term starter.  He'll be a good team player who won't rock the boat.  That's what will sustain him here for at least this season.  I think he'll survive the 2014 campaign, but if they draft 2 QBs, 2015 he'll be playing on another roster.

He is a decent NFL back up; definitely not starter material. To me, he lacks the mental make-up and makes bad decisions at important times in games. He'll work for the time being, but we will be definitely be replacing him in the near future. He'll probably start this year (unless whoever we draft just comes in and blows us/the team away) and get us a few more wins than last year. He's definitely not the future though.

 

GO JAGS!!

I wouldnt use good and Chad Henne in the same line.

Quote:I wouldnt use good and Chad Henne in the same line.

Good God Chad Henne is awful..

Chad Henne is a below average starting QB. He will never get much better then what he is right now. He has a career losing record and will in all likelyhood will end his career that way. He is his own worst enemy at times and because of this, he will NEVER strike fear in his opponents. He will have stretches during games where he actually looks like an above average NFL starting QB and he will move the team down the field, but don't be fooled by this, because it will not last for long. 

 

There will be the occasional TD as a result of his above average stretch, but unfortunately, more often then not, the hot streak will end with a batted down pass, an INT, an incomplete pass that ends up 5 yds or more from the WR or a sack. If the Jags are lucky, they will be able to salvage a FG out of it.

 

CH also seems to play his best when the game is out of reach, which leads to some very misleading stats at the end of the game. Why can't he play like this when the game is still in doubt you will be asking yourself? He just can't, accept it.

 

The Jags did win 4 games in the 2nd half of the season last year, but all 4 wins were not because of Henne playing better. A couple of them were in spite of Henne, which is just not a good sign.

 

My take on CH is that he's just way too inconsistent, esp for a 6 yr vet. Sometimes he looks good out there, sometimes he looks like the Chad Henne we all know, and unfortunately, sometimes he looks like Chad Hiney.

If you listen to all the experts here, he is nothing, and you shouldn't bother to either be a fan or watch another Jaguar game.

 

If you listen to the Jaguar GM, Caldwell, he is the best option the Jaguar squad had to win, at least in the short term.

 

You can choose for yourself.

The amount of loathing that Henne seems to bring on here is baffling. Sure, he's not great but he's not nearly as bad as y'all make him out to be. (At least from what I've watched going back through the season)


Lewis the tight end looked good the last third of the year. He's too injury prone to be a main cog of the offense but he can certainly contribute.


I really don't know exactly what they should do in the draft. I lean towards them trading back a fee spots and getting as much talent as possible.

Quote:He's going to be most improved player this upcoming season, a Kurt Warner type season, Super Bowl.

OMG?

Quote:If you listen to all the experts here, he is nothing, and you shouldn't bother to either be a fan or watch another Jaguar game.

 

If you listen to the Jaguar GM, Caldwell, he is the best option the Jaguar squad had to win, at least in the short term.

 

You can choose for yourself.

You're not seriously trying to imply that the GM of this team knows better than borderline illiterate message board trolls when it comes to building a roster? That's just crazy talk.

There are at least a dozen current backup QBs better than Henne. That says plenty. 

Quote:If he was on Sea this year, he would have been on the bench.

True, but I meant if he was the starter for some reason. 

Quote:If you listen to all the experts here, he is nothing, and you shouldn't bother to either be a fan or watch another Jaguar game.

 

If you listen to the Jaguar GM, Caldwell, he is the best option the Jaguar squad had to win, at least in the short term.

 

You can choose for yourself.

 

Nobody said anything about not watching the games because Henne is playing.  Way to make stuff up.  

 

I will watch regardless of who's playing.  Doesn't mean I have to like who we're starting at QB.  I know we won't be relevant until we get a good QB.  The only way to do that is to draft them and take your shot with them.

Quote:There are at least a dozen current backup QBs better than Henne. That says plenty. 

 

How many of those players who are currently under contract are available in free agency?  That says more.

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