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Ok, so do you take a qb at 3, if so, who?

Quote:Ok, so do you take a qb at 3, if so, who?

Aren't there dozens of threads discussing this, and practically an entire forum dedicated to it?

Quote:Ok, so do you take a qb at 3, if so, who?

No. I say wait for the 2nd or trade back into the first if one falls like Bridgewater may.

Just answer the question or don't waste mine or your time posting something like that. Why are people on message boards like that?

Quote:Just answer the question or don't waste mine or your time posting something like that. Why are people on message boards like that?

 

I think he did answer your question.

Apparently he's so good he doesn't need a back-up since we're just naming him our starter and have no other capable QB's on the roster as of now. Baffling that every mock draft has us taking a defensive player.

Quote:Apparently he's so good he doesn't need a back-up since we're just naming him our starter and have no other capable QB's on the roster as of now. Baffling that every mock draft has us taking a defensive player.

There are multiple rounds in the draft. Are you suggesting they should reach for a QB with the first pick just because?

Hes not suggestig you reach. Hes rates a QB high enough to warrant taking him 3. There's a big difference and many people here dont understand this.

When the organisation is projected to take a QB in either the 1st or 2nd round, that should tell you how good Henne really is..

Quote:Hes not suggestig you reach. Hes rates a QB high enough to warrant taking him 3. There's a big difference and many people here dont understand this.

Or, perhaps many people here don't see QB as a good fit at the 3rd spot in the draft, and feel it's better to take the best player on the board there and not reach for a QB. This is not a draft with a QB who is truly worthy of the top 5. We can get a serviceable guy with the 2nd rounder.


I think most people understand your point. They just don't think this is a draft with a must have QB.

Quote:Or, perhaps many people here don't see QB as a good fit at the 3rd spot in the draft, and feel it's better to take the best player on the board there and not reach for a QB. This is not a draft with a QB who is truly worthy of the top 5. We can get a serviceable guy with the 2nd rounder.


I think most people understand your point. They just don't think this is a draft with a must have QB.

 

I've never seen a more stubborn crowd to this opinion.  I hope they can find a way to accept it if it doesn't turn out their way, since they certainly aren't accepting that opinion now.

Henne is garbage...plain and simple...you can try to dress it up with "he is the best option"..."he is a good team player"...ect...and some of that may be true...but it still does not change the fact he is garbage...and with him starting all year we will be picking in the top 5 next year.

 

And everyone who says this years QBs are average will be in here saying the same thing about next year's QB crop after a few have down years, or go back to college, ect...

 

Point is you can't keep "waiting until next year" to address the most important spot in all of team sports.  Guess what we draft a guy in the first round this year...we will have a first round pick next year too and if we are in position to draft a "can't miss prospect" next year...then you take him...

 

now I am not saying we have to take a guy at three...but to think we can wait until the 3rd or 4th round to address this and pray we get an upper level game manager like the Seahawks is just stupid...

Quote:Or, perhaps many people here don't see QB as a good fit at the 3rd spot in the draft, and feel it's better to take the best player on the board there and not reach for a QB. This is not a draft with a QB who is truly worthy of the top 5. We can get a serviceable guy with the 2nd rounder.


I think most people understand your point. They just don't think this is a draft with a must have QB.

 

This will make the 2nd draft in a row with no must have QB.

 

What's going on with the college QB's being NFL ready??  Where are all the NFL ready QB's in college? Has the tap run dry?

College coaches are not worried about churning out NFL QBs...they are worried about winning games and National Championships and if they happen to turn out a good NFL QB so be it.

Quote:Point is you can't keep "waiting until next year" to address the most important spot in all of team sports.  Guess what we draft a guy in the first round this year...we will have a first round pick next year too and if we are in position to draft a "can't miss prospect" next year...then you take him...

 

NO ONE is suggesting to "keep waiting until next year."

 

In fact, I think most would be happy with us picking up two QBs in this draft.

 

Most, I think, also realize it's not realistic to expect one of those to be at #3.

 

So, where's the problem with any of that?

Quote:Or, perhaps many people here don't see QB as a good fit at the 3rd spot in the draft, and feel it's better to take the best player on the board there and not reach for a QB. This is not a draft with a QB who is truly worthy of the top 5. We can get a serviceable guy with the 2nd rounder.

I think most people understand your point. They just don't think this is a draft with a must have QB.

Point being is "reaching" is subjective, and it is predicated upon an ambigious norm. But i think were on the same page.

Quote:Henne is garbage...plain and simple...you can try to dress it up with "he is the best option"..."he is a good team player"...ect...and some of that may be true...but it still does not change the fact he is garbage...and with him starting all year we will be picking in the top 5 next year.

 

 

What kind of stats would Henne have to have this year to convince you he is an NFL-caliber 2nd tier QB?  I'm asking because you're not the only one to have this opinion and I'm starting to wonder what a reasonable expectation should be for that kind of player. 

Quote:Ok, so do you take a qb at 3, if so, who?

I'll take any of the top 3 qb's at 3 because if not base on the other needy qb in the nfl we'll end up with a aj mccarrons, Aaron Murray, or Jimmy (Blaine Gabbert) Garoppolo. I wish our GM wouldn't draft scared and get one of them because there aren't going to be a Andrew Luck every single year so the sooner he realize that the better he can be at his job. 

Quote:I've never seen a more stubborn crowd to this opinion.  I hope they can find a way to accept it if it doesn't turn out their way, since they certainly aren't accepting that opinion now.

 

We don't need to grab a QB in the first round to upgrade the position in this draft.  We just know there isn't a franchise QB who is worth grabbing at #3.  That doesn't mean there aren't guys in this draft who will turn out to have solid NFL careers. 

 

I don't see this as a problem.  We either find the guy we can rally around at QB this year, or we don't.  If it winds up the latter, then we'll look at this again next year. 

Quote:This will make the 2nd draft in a row with no must have QB.

 

What's going on with the college QB's being NFL ready??  Where are all the NFL ready QB's in college? Has the tap run dry?

 

Like someone else said, developing QBs is hard, putting a running back under center and just relying on having the better roster is what college coaches do.

 

The NFL needs to get rid of the college system and start a professional farm league where the elite college prospects can go to get paid while they learn NFL style ball for a few years instead of the exploitative garbage we have now with college football.