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Maybe he's a Houston fan now.......he's a Bridgewater or life is not worth living fan
MOCK 5.0

 

1ST ROUND 

 

1. Houston Texans (2-14) - Blake Bortles QB

I am going with the popular opinion here. It will either be Clowney or Bortles. I hope this hype train continues till the draft. We can only hope Bortles has a great combine. The Texans have a bigger need for QB than pass rusher. Although Clowney would be the safer pick, I think the addition of O’Brian will have them select the 6’5’’ QB. I just see Bortles as a Houston Texan versus Clowney or Bridgewater. Its easy for me to conceptualize Bortles wearing one of those awful Texan uniforms even though he wore white in college and Teddy wore Red. 

 

2. Atlanta Falcons
 (Skins 3-13) -Jadeveon Clowney DE

I have a feeling no team will buy into what the Rams are selling. I don't think a team would be willing to part with a lot of picks to draft anyone but Clowney. Especially teams with new regimes. Teams with new regimes might feel reserved in making a big splash in the first year. However, Dimitroff see’s Clowney still on the board and decides to part with either a 3rd and 5th or a 2nd for Clowney. Apparently Snead, Dimitroff and Caldwell are all buds, so I can see the Jaguars with the 2nd Pick or the Falcons. 

 

3. Jacksonville Jaguars (4-12) - Teddy Bridgewater QB

The Jags get their QB of the future. Im not sure whats with the recent knocks on Teddy. He has everything you want in a QB. We will get Matt Ryan-like production out of Teddy in his first year. But, Teddy will blossom into his own QB as he grows with the franchise. The issue isn’t where you select your franchise QB, but how. Too many teams try to build teams around Quarterbacks instead of simply building a team. The Patriots, Steelers, Seahawks, 49ers did the latter. The Broncos, Lions, Texans did the former. I can’t wait to see Teddy in teal. 

 

If the selection is not Teddy, I definitely expect us to trade down with the Vikings or Raiders. If this is the case I believe Garrappolo will be our QB. 

 

4. Cleveland Browns (4-12) - Johnny Manziel QB

I don't think just because Shanahan is their new OC means that they will ultimately trade for Cousins. Lombardi will draft Manziel. 

 

5. Oakland Raiders (4-12) - Khalil Mack OLB 

I think they will target Vick and Sanchez in the offseason. 

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<p style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:13px;">6. St. Louis Rams 
 (4-12) - Jake Matthews OT 

<p style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:13px;">They get the player the wanted all along. 

 

7. Tampa Bay Buccs (4-12) - Greg Robinson OT

Another team I could see targeting Vick and Sanchez. 

 

8. Minnesota Vikings (5-10-1) - Anthony Barr OLB

Another team I could see targeting Vick. They have no business taking a chance on Carr like they did just 3 years ago with Ponder. 

 

9.  Buffalo Bills (6-10) - Sammy Watkins WR

 

10. Detroit Lions (6-10) -  Taylor Lewan OT

 

11. Tennesse Titans - Zach Martin OT 

12. New York Giants - C.J. Mosley ILB

13. St. Louis Rams - Mike Evans WR 

14. Chicago Bears - Darqueze Dennard CB

15. Pittsburgh Steelers - Aaron Donald DT

16. Dallas Cowboys - Timmy Jernigan DT 

17. Baltimore Ravens - Calvin Pyror S 

18. New York Jets - Marquise Lee WR

19. Miami Dolphins - RaShede Hageman DT

20. Arizona Cardinals - Derek Carr QB

21. Green Bay Packers - Timmy Jernigan DT

22. Philadelphia Eagles -  HAHA Clinton Dix S

23. Kansas City Chiefs - Justin Gilbert CB 

24. Cincinnati Bengals - Kony Ealy DE 

25. San Diego Chargers - Kelvin Benjamin WR

26. Cleveland Browns - Jace Amaro TE

27. New Orleans Saints - Dee Ford DE

28. Carolina Panthers -  Cyrus Kouandjo OT 

29. New England Patriots - Louis Nix NT

30. San Francisco 49ers -Marcus Roberson CB

31. Denver Broncos - Ryan Shazier OLB 

32. Seattle Seahawks - Odell Beckham Jr. WR 

 

2nd Round

33. Houston Texans - David Yankey OG

34. Washington Redskins - Austin Sefarian-Jenkins TE

35. Cleveland Browns - Cameron Erving OT

36. Oakland Raiders - A.J. McCaron QB 

37. Atlanta Falcons - Morgan Moses OT

38. Tampa Bay Buccs - Jason Verrett CB

39. Jacksonville Jaguars - Kyle Van Noy DE 

 
 
Jacksonville Jaguars 2014 DRAFT: 

1st Round  Teddy Bridgewater QB
2nd Round Kyle Van Noy Leo
3rd Round  C.J. Fiedorowicz TE
4th Round  Lache Seastrunk HB 
4th Round  Jaylen Watkins CB 
5th Round  George Uko DT
5th Round  Deandre Coleman DT
5th Round  Jon Halapio OG
6th Round  Kevin Norwood WR 
7th Round  Storm Johnson HB
 
Jaguars Big Free Agent Signings: 
Alex Mack C
Walter Thurmond CB 
Not trying to bump the thread (although a few comments on the mock would be appreciated). But, guys. This draft is driving me insane. And it's not so much as what the Texans do, but what the freakin Rams do! What is going through the Rams minds?!? Are they going to get a trade partner for Clowney, Bridgewater, or Manziel? Why would the Browns trade up knowing that the Jags have no interest in Manziel? The Falcons have a lot of needs to trade picks away, and I am sure they would be more than content with Khalil Mack or one of the plethora of LT's. 

 

The 2014 Draft is perplexing starting at the #2 pick. 

 

Do the Rams justify taking a receiver that high when they have a glaring issue at T? Do the Rams select Clowney? Watkins? Robinson? Matthews? 

 

 

Then of course if the draft ends up like:

1. Texans - Bortles

2. Rams - Robinson 

3. Jaguars - ?!?#!@?#?!@#?!@?$!#%?#  what a crazy situation for Caldwell you have Bridgewater and Clowney on the board. WHAT DO YOU DO?!?   

 

This draft is keeping me up at night. Everything feels so up in the air.  Wallbash  :wacko:

mock 0.6ISH

 

been working on it on and off so decided to post it for giggles

 

1-texans- teddy bridgewater

2- rams trade to cleveland for a second- jonny manziel

3- jags- clowney

4- rams- jake matthews

5- oakland- sammy watkins

6- atlanta- khalil mack

7-tampa- anthony barr

8- minnestoa- blake bortles

9- buffalo- greg robinson

10-detroit- darqueze dennard

11- tenessee- eric ebron

12- new york giants- louis nix

13- st louis rams- mike evans 

14- chicago bears- ha ha clinton dix

15-pittsburgh steelers- taylor lewan

16 baltimore ravens-zack martin

17- dallas cowboys- timmy jernigan

18- new york jets- marqise lee 

19- miami dolphins- cyrus couandijo

20- arizona cardinals- derek carr

 

thats as far as i've got so far only greenbay is where i'm struggling thinking hageman but also a te or o line

Quote:mock 0.6ISH

 

been working on it on and off so decided to post it for giggles

 

1-texans- teddy bridgewater

2- rams trade to cleveland for a second- jonny manziel

3- jags- clowney

4- rams- jake matthews

5- oakland- sammy watkins

6- atlanta- khalil mack

7-tampa- anthony barr

8- minnestoa- blake bortles

9- buffalo- greg robinson

10-detroit- darqueze dennard

11- tenessee- eric ebron

12- new york giants- louis nix

13- st louis rams- mike evans 

14- chicago bears- ha ha clinton dix

15-pittsburgh steelers- taylor lewan

16 baltimore ravens-zack martin

17- dallas cowboys- timmy jernigan

18- new york jets- marqise lee 

19- miami dolphins- cyrus couandijo

20- arizona cardinals- derek carr

 

thats as far as i've got so far only greenbay is where i'm struggling thinking hageman but also a te or o line
 

I don't think that Robinson drops that far but possible. With Lombardi out of Cleveland I doubt Farmer trades up for anyone. I question if they even select Manziel anymore. 
Quote:MOCK 5.0

 

1ST ROUND 

 

1. Houston Texans
 (2-14) - Blake Bortles QB

I am going with the popular opinion here. It will either be Clowney or Bortles. I hope this hype train continues till the draft. We can only hope Bortles has a great combine. The Texans have a bigger need for QB than pass rusher. Although Clowney would be the safer pick, I think the addition of O’Brian will have them select the 6’5’’ QB. I just see Bortles as a Houston Texan versus Clowney or Bridgewater. Its easy for me to conceptualize Bortles wearing one of those awful Texan uniforms even though he wore white in college and Teddy wore Red. 

 

2. Atlanta Falcons
 (Skins 3-13) -Jadeveon Clowney DE

I have a feeling no team will buy into what the Rams are selling. I don't think a team would be willing to part with a lot of picks to draft anyone but Clowney. Especially teams with new regimes. Teams with new regimes might feel reserved in making a big splash in the first year. However, Dimitroff see’s Clowney still on the board and decides to part with either a 3rd and 5th or a 2nd for Clowney. Apparently Snead, Dimitroff and Caldwell are all buds, so I can see the Jaguars with the 2nd Pick or the Falcons. 

 

3. Jacksonville Jaguars 
(4-12) - Teddy Bridgewater QB

The Jags get their QB of the future. Im not sure whats with the recent knocks on Teddy. He has everything you want in a QB. We will get Matt Ryan-like production out of Teddy in his first year. But, Teddy will blossom into his own QB as he grows with the franchise. The issue isn’t where you select your franchise QB, but how. Too many teams try to build teams around Quarterbacks instead of simply building a team. The Patriots, Steelers, Seahawks, 49ers did the latter. The Broncos, Lions, Texans did the former. I can’t wait to see Teddy in teal. 

 

If the selection is not Teddy, I definitely expect us to trade down with the Vikings or Raiders. If this is the case I believe Garrappolo will be our QB. 

 

4. Cleveland Browns 
(4-12) - Johnny Manziel QB

I don't think just because Shanahan is their new OC means that they will ultimately trade for Cousins. Lombardi will draft Manziel. 

 

5. Oakland Raiders 
(4-12) - Khalil Mack OLB 

I think they will target Vick and Sanchez in the offseason. 

 

6. St. Louis Rams 
 (4-12) - Jake Matthews OT 
They get the player the wanted all along. 

 

7. Tampa Bay Buccs
 (4-12) - Greg Robinson OT

Another team I could see targeting Vick and Sanchez. 

 

8. Minnesota Vikings
 (5-10-1) - Anthony Barr OLB

Another team I could see targeting Vick. They have no business taking a chance on Carr like they did just 3 years ago with Ponder. 

 

9.  Buffalo Bills
 (6-10) - Sammy Watkins WR

 

10. Detroit Lions 
(6-10) -  Taylor Lewan OT

 

11. Tennesse Titans - Zach Martin OT 

12. New York Giants - C.J. Mosley ILB

13. St. Louis Rams - Mike Evans WR 

14. Chicago Bears - Darqueze Dennard CB

15. Pittsburgh Steelers - Aaron Donald DT

16. Dallas Cowboys - Timmy Jernigan DT 

17. Baltimore Ravens - Calvin Pyror S 

18. New York Jets - Marquise Lee WR

19. Miami Dolphins - RaShede Hageman DT

20. Arizona Cardinals - Derek Carr QB

21. Green Bay Packers - Timmy Jernigan DT

22. Philadelphia Eagles -  HAHA Clinton Dix S

23. Kansas City Chiefs - Justin Gilbert CB 

24. Cincinnati Bengals - Kony Ealy DE 

25. San Diego Chargers - Kelvin Benjamin WR

26. Cleveland Browns - Jace Amaro TE

27. New Orleans Saints - Dee Ford DE

28. Carolina Panthers -  Cyrus Kouandjo OT 

29. New England Patriots - Louis Nix NT

30. San Francisco 49ers -Marcus Roberson CB

31. Denver Broncos - Ryan Shazier OLB 

32. Seattle Seahawks - Odell Beckham Jr. WR 

 

2nd Round

33. Houston Texans - David Yankey OG

34. Washington Redskins - Austin Sefarian-Jenkins TE
35. Cleveland Browns - Cameron Erving OT

36. Oakland Raiders - A.J. McCaron QB 
37. Atlanta Falcons - Morgan Moses OT
38. Tampa Bay Buccs - Jason Verrett CB

39. Jacksonville Jaguars - Kyle Van Noy DE 

 

 
Jacksonville Jaguars 2014 DRAFT: 

1st Round  Teddy Bridgewater QB

2nd Round Kyle Van Noy Leo

3rd Round  
C.J. Fiedorowicz TE
4th Round  
Lache Seastrunk HB 

4th Round  Jaylen Watkins CB 

5th Round  George Uko DT
5th Round  Deandre Coleman DT

5th Round  Jon Halapio OG
6th Round  Kevin Norwood WR 

7th Round  Storm Johnson HB


 
Jaguars Big Free Agent Signings: 
Alex Mack C

Walter Thurmond CB 


Seastrunk AND Johnson? Yes please, that would be awesome.
Quote:I don't think that Robinson drops that far but possible. With Lombardi out of Cleveland I doubt Farmer trades up for anyone. I question if they even select Manziel anymore. 
i dont see tampa going tackle when a possible elite de in barr is on the table same with atlanta and mack at olb

minnesota need a qb so buffalo was the earliest i could see him going

 

as for cleveland manziel it makes too much sense to me

they have a strong front 7 playmakers in the secondary a top wide out for him to throw too

resign alex mack and they also have a top centre to ease him in

they need playmakers on offense and of all the qbs manziel is that

i think they fall in love with his excitement factor and the opportunity to add profile and excitement to a long maligned team.

he is an instant face of a franchiseand as such  trade up to land him

if they leave the rams with that 2nd pick minnesota or oakland could jump and grab either qb giving them a chance to loose all 3 and qb is their big first round need

also they have a qb in jason campbell where he can sit and get up to speed if needs be

 

i think it's the perfect situation for both the browns and manziel
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2014/mock-drafts

 

New mocks by Jeremiah and Charles Davis. They both have us taking Manziel. I find this odd. 

Quote:<a class="bbc_url" href='http://www.nfl.com/draft/2014/mock-drafts'>http://www.nfl.com/draft/2014/mock-drafts</a>

whats so odd about us taking the best qb in the draft?

New mocks by Jeremiah and Charles Davis. They both have us taking Manziel. I find this odd.
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<a class="bbc_url" href='http://www.nfl.com/draft/2014/mock-drafts'>http://www.nfl.com/draft/2014/mock-drafts</a>

whats so odd about us taking the best qb in the draft?

New mocks by Jeremiah and Charles Davis. They both have us taking Manziel. I find this odd.
 


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Well, because I don't believe he is. Ranking him over Teddy might be a bit of a reach. I'm not saying I would hate the manziel pick but I think it would be odd to pick him over teddy


Top 10 D easy, maybe top 5



1st Round Jadaveon Clowney, DE

2nd Round Kyle Van Noy OLB

2rd Round Jimmie Ward, FS

3rd Round traded 3rd and 5th to move back into the 2nd

4th Round Aaron Murray, QB

4th Round Andre Williams, RB

5th Round traded to move back into the 2nd

5th Round Tyler Larsen, C

5th Round Crockett Gillmore, TE

6th Round Kevin Norwood WR

7th Round Connor Shaw, QB
Quote:Top 10 D easy, maybe top 5



1st Round Jadaveon Clowney, DE

2nd Round Kyle Van Noy OLB

2rd Round Jimmie Ward, FS

3rd Round traded 3rd and 5th to move back into the 2nd

4th Round Aaron Murray, QB

4th Round Andre Williams, RB

5th Round traded to move back into the 2nd

5th Round Tyler Larsen, C

5th Round Crockett Gillmore, TE

6th Round Kevin Norwood WR

7th Round Connor Shaw, QB
 

 

I'm not sure I like Van Noy in the 2nd anymore, I also think we need to pick up a CB at some point. But I like your mock! 
MOCK 6.0 2/20/14

*HIGHLIGHTS* -
Oakland gets a Boyd/Watkins pairing, Cardinals draft Carr, JAGS Trade Back into first


 

1. Houston Texans (2-14) - Johnny Manziel QB 

I think the owner and the residents of Houston will be a big factor for Johnny going to the Texans. I think Johnny’s new commitment towards becoming a better person and quarterback will definitely help his stock. He has been training with a former Bill Obrien assistant and he’s stated he WANTS to be a Texan. I think the Texans oblige. 

 

2. Atlanta Falcons
(Skins 3-13) - Jadeveon Clowney DE

I still feel the Falcons will trade up for a shot at Clowney. Albeit the Browns will probably also try to trade up for Bridgewater. We will see I guess.  But, for now I think the Rams will trade this pick to the Falcons. Perhaps the Browns will be content knowing Bridgewater and Bortles will still be available.

 

3. Jacksonville Jaguars (4-12) - Teddy Bridgewater QB

I have been trying to not mock Bridgewater to us several times. But, I hold with such conviction that Teddy will be a Jaguar. It just makes sense. Him in a Jaguars uniform makes sense to me. Now for cliches… he has a great work ethic, has all the tools, and **** we need a Quarterback. I think at this point in Caldwells mind its 1A CLOWNEY 1B Bridgewater 1C Mack

 

4. Cleveland Browns (4-12) - Blake Bortles QB 

 

5. Oakland Raiders (4-12) - Sammy Watkins WR 

 

6. St. Louis Rams  (4-12) - Jake Matthews OT 

 

7. Tampa Bay Buccs (4-12) - Greg Robinson OT

 

8. Minnesota Vikings (5-10-1) - Khalil Mack OLB

 

9.  Buffalo Bills (6-10) - Anthony Barr OLB

 

10. Detroit Lions (6-10) -  Taylor Lewan OT

 

11. Tennesse Titans - Zach Martin OT 

12. New York Giants - C.J. Mosley ILB

13. St. Louis Rams - Eric Ebron TE

14. Chicago Bears - Darqueze Dennard CB

15. Pittsburgh Steelers - Aaron Donald DT

16. Dallas Cowboys - Timmy Jernigan DT 

17. Baltimore Ravens -  Calvin Pyror S 

18. New York Jets - Marquise Lee WR

19. Miami Dolphins - Cyrus Kouandjo OT 

20. Arizona Cardinals - Derek Carr QB

21. Green Bay Packers - HAHA Clinton Dix S

22. Philadelphia Eagles - Justin Gilbert CB

23. Kansas City Chiefs - Mike Evans WR 

24. Cincinnati Bengals - LaMarcus Joyner CB

25. San Diego Chargers - Kelvin Benjamin WR

26. Cleveland Browns - Jace Amaro TE

27. New Orleans Saints - Kony Ealy DE 

28. Carolina Panthers -  Marcus Roberson CB

29. New England Patriots - -Rashede Hageman DT

30. San Francisco 49ers - Stephon Tuitt DT

31. Denver Broncos - Jason Verrett CB

32. *TRADE* Jacksonville Jaguars - Dee Ford DE (Jaguars Trade 2nd 5th and 7th Round)

 

 

Jaguars: 
1st Round  Teddy Bridgewater QB
1st Round  Dee Ford DE 
3rd Round  Donte Moncrief WR 
4th Round  Lache Seastrunk HB  
4th Round  Jaylen Watkins CB 
5th Round  Deandre Coleman DT
5th Round  Jon Halapio OG
6th Round  Kevin Norwood WR 
 
Jaguars Big Free Agent Signings: 
Alex Mack C
Walter Thurmond CB 
Quote:On a totally different subject, does anyone know what happened to vagrantwade?  I don't see him posting anymore.
I've seen him on Reddit, was posting as recently as 4 hours ago:

http://www.reddit.com/user/vagrantwade
I'm expecting the Browns to make a giant move for Teddy at #2 now. 

***Trade Pick #3 for Picks #8 and #40 with Vikings****

1.08 Anthony Barr LEO UCLA----Absolute freak athlete and a pure pass rusher 

2.39 Ha'Sean Clinton-Dix FS Alabama-----Would solidify the back of the secondary and have a dominant tandem with Cyprien 

2.40 Travis Swanson C Arkansas-----Guy who loves to compete and is durable and smart, needs to work on his strength 

3.70 Lache Seastrunk RB Baylor-----Reminds me alot of a young MJD with the good/great speed and high motor

4.101 Keith Mcgill CB Utah--------Long athletic corner that would fit into the system

4.110 Anthony Johnson DT LSU-------Has all the tools and the athletic ability but just needs to get some good coaching to reach his high potential

5.132 AJ Mccarron QB Alabama-------Not a big fan of AJ but feel like he could be a decent QB in the NFL and a career like Kirk Cousins 

5.138 Joe Don Duncan TE Dixie State-----Little bit older and lacks good film but is strong and has good hands

5.147 Charles Nelson Jr OT Boise State-------More of a back up swing guy but has a good base and has physical tools just needs more coaching

6.163 Prince Shembo OLB Notre Dame------Not great at anything but just gets the job done across the board and would be a special teamer

7.199 John Brown WR Pittsburg State------F-A-S-T but also was a gunner in college and also is quick and has good hands

Quote:***Trade Pick #3 for Picks #8 and #40 with Vikings[BAD WORD REMOVED]

1.08 Anthony Barr LEO UCLA----Absolute freak athlete and a pure pass rusher 

2.39 Ha'Sean Clinton-Dix FS Alabama-----Would solidify the back of the secondary and have a dominant tandem with Cyprien 

2.40 Travis Swanson C Arkansas-----Guy who loves to compete and is durable and smart, needs to work on his strength 

3.70 Lache Seastrunk RB Baylor-----Reminds me alot of a young MJD with the good/great speed and high motor

4.101 Keith Mcgill CB Utah--------Long athletic corner that would fit into the system

4.110 Anthony Johnson DT LSU-------Has all the tools and the athletic ability but just needs to get some good coaching to reach his high potential

5.132 AJ Mccarron QB Alabama-------Not a big fan of AJ but feel like he could be a decent QB in the NFL and a career like Kirk Cousins 

5.138 Joe Don Duncan TE Dixie State-----Little bit older and lacks good film but is strong and has good hands

5.147 Charles Nelson Jr OT Boise State-------More of a back up swing guy but has a good base and has physical tools just needs more coaching

6.163 Prince Shembo OLB Notre Dame------Not great at anything but just gets the job done across the board and would be a special teamer

7.199 John Brown WR Pittsburg State------F-A-S-T but also was a gunner in college and also is quick and has good hands
I like your draft, but there is no way some of those players fall where they do. McCarron seems a bit too nutty for me. 
Quote:I like your draft, but there is no way some of those players fall where they do. McCarron seems a bit too nutty for me.


Is it the tattoo?
Quote:Is it the tattoo?
:thumbsup:

 

I respect all different beliefs, but that is just plain koo-koo 
<sup>1. HOU - QB B. Bortles (who I think is the one QB Caldwell would want - just a guess)</sup>

<sup>2. STL - DE J. Clowney (Browns may be dumb enough to trade up for Manziel)</sup>

<sup>3. JAC - DE/OLB K. Mack (pass rushing beast with fire we need if QB not selected)</sup>

<sup>4. CLE - QB J. Manziel (they can have him)</sup>

<sup>5. OAK - OT J. Matthews (I think they stick with Pryor another year)</sup>

<sup>6. ATL - OT G. Robinson (no brainer here)</sup>

<sup>7. TAM - WR S. Watkins (Florida boy returns home opposite V-Jack)</sup>

<sup>8. MIN - QB T. Bridgewater (may fall slightly, Geno Smith comparisons coming?)</sup>

<sup>9. BUF - WR M. Evans (rises to top 10 with that 4.47 40 time)</sup>

<sup>10. DET - OT T. Lewan or CB D. Dennard</sup>

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This is my latest guess at the top 10.

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