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Quote:I think the Seahawks will lock up Bennett. And I don't really envision Watkins going past the Raiders (not saying they don't need a LT). 

 

Quote:Here is my latest idea, and it also involves trading back.

 

Minnesota is desperate for a QB. I think they take no chances and will want to jump over Cleveland and Oakland to grab a QB of their choice after Bortles goes #1 to Houston.  They could even trade up with St. Louis to get ahead of the Jags, but for the sake of the trade scenario we will say they give us their 2nd round pick to move up from #8 to #3.  Atlanta also trades up to get Clowney.

 

1. HOU - QB B. Bortles

2. ATL - DE J. Clowney (from STL)

3. MIN -  QB T. Bridgewater (from JAC)

4. CLE - QB J. Manziel

5. OAK - OT G. Robinson

6. STL - OT J. Matthews (from ATL)

7. TAM - OLB K. Mack

8. JAC - WR S. Watkins (from MIN) -explosive, star player we need badly, will make whatever QB look good

9. BUF - OT T. Lewan

10. DET - CB D. Dennard

 

39. JAC - QB D. Carr (pair him with Watkins for some big plays, no pressure to start day 1)

40. JAC - OC T. Swanson (starter day 1)

Rnd 3 - RB L. Seastrunk (starter day 1)

 

Free Agency - DE Michael Bennett

 

The rest of the draft would hopefully land some quality depth at CB, LB and DL.

 

I think I'd like this draft.

D. Carr is going to be horrible at the next level...he seems to fold like a chair at the first sign of pressure...and he is going to get tons more pressure in the NFL than he ever did in college.

Yeah, not a fan of Carr. 

Yeah Id rather stay far away from Carr.

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mock 7.0 

 

 

1. Houston Texans (2-14) - Blake Bortles QB

I am differing back to Bortles here. He did what he had too at the combine. The Texans owner laughed at Manziel’s threat to the Texans organization, so I don’t believe Manziel is their guy. Bridgewater or Bortles here. 

 

2. St. Louis Rams (Skins 3-13) - Greg Robinson OT 

Im not sure that the Falcons will try to bite on a trade at #2. I think the Rams may have lost some leverage with the QB's of this years class dropping in stock. I think the Falcons would rather sit tight and watch Clowney fall to 3. Rams, with no viable offers take Robinson. 

 

3. *TRADE* Atlanta Falcons (4-12) - Jadeveon Clowney DE 

Atlanta Falcons trade 1st Round, 2nd Round, 4th Round and 2015 2nd Round to Jaguars for Jaguars 1st Round selection. Jags stock pile picks including a high selection in next years draft. 

 

4. Cleveland Browns (4-12) - Teddy Bridgewater QB

Browns are reportedly in love with Carr, but I assume thats their option if Bridgewater is gone. Teddy will have a warm welcome to the defenses of the Steelers, Bengals, and Ravens. Good luck with that. 

 

5. Oakland Raiders (4-12) - Johnny Manziel QB 

I have been mocking Watkins to the Raiders, but I definitely don't see them passing up on Johnny. Johnny will provide a much needed spark to that franchise. 

 

<p style="color:rgb(0,0,0);">6. <b>Jacksonville Jaguars</b> (4-12) - Khalil Mack DE 

Why take a QB now? We still have a couple years till we can be a playoff team. Khalil Mack is a straight up difference maker. I haven't been a fan until recently. I've been watching some cut-ups on him, and wow he makes an impact on almost every single play. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kb1nhZliuqc . My favorite clip of him. Seriously made non-stop plays in that game. Why take a chance with Clowney when you know you'll get elite production out of Mack? He'll brake the defensive sacks record for a rookie, I'm certain of it. I've been on the Bridgewater train for a while now. But, I honestly can't pin point a game where he has just been lights out (other than the infamous Orangebowl Game). 

 

7. Tampa Bay Buccs (4-12) - Jake Matthews OT 

 

8. Minnesota Vikings (5-10-1) - Justin Gilbert CB

 

9.  Buffalo Bills (6-10) - Sammy Watkins WR 

 

10. Detroit Lions (6-10) -  Darqueze Dennard CB

 

11. Tennesse Titans - Taylor Lewan OT 

12. New York Giants - Timmy Jernigan DT

13. St. Louis Rams - Mike Evans WR 

14. Chicago Bears -Aaron Donald DT

15. Pittsburgh Steelers - Anthony Barr OLB 

16. Dallas Cowboys - Rashede Hageman DT

17. Baltimore Ravens -  C.J. Mosley ILB

18. New York Jets - Eric Ebron TE

19. Miami Dolphins - Zach Martin OT

20. Arizona Cardinals - Calvin Pyror S 

21. Green Bay Packers - Louis Nix NT

22. Philadelphia Eagles - HAHA Dix S

23. Kansas City Chiefs -  Odell Beckman WR

24. Cincinnati Bengals - Dee Ford DE 

25. San Diego Chargers - Marquise Lee WR

26. Cleveland Browns - Kelvin Benjamin WR

27. New Orleans Saints - Kony Ealy DE 

28. Carolina Panthers -  Morgan Moses OT

29. New England Patriots - Jace Amaro TE

30. San Francisco 49ers -Jason Verrett CB

31. Denver Broncos -  Marcus Roberson CB

32. Seattle Seahawks - Austin Sefarian Jenkins TE

 

<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:13px;">Jaguars: 
1st Round  Khalil Mack OLB 
2nd Round Xavier Su’a Filo OG 
2nd Round Travis Swanson C 
3rd Round  Donte Moncrief WR 
4th Round  Lache Seastrunk HB  
4th Round  Jaylen Watkins CB 
4th Round  Josh Mauro DE 
5th Round  Deandre Coleman DT
5th Round  Crockett Gilmore TE
5th Round  Aaron Murray QB
6th Round  Kevin Norwood WR
7th Round  Storm Johnson HB 
 
Jaguars 2015 Draft 
 
Trade from 16th Overall to 5th Selection, Select Marcus Mariota QB Oregon
 

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You know, it's going to suck to not get one of the top 3 QB's in the first round, and to have to put up with watching Henne start again this year, BUT this is exactly where I am thinking the Jags are headed in the draft.  We almost have to trade down and double up on interior line in round 2 now.  And I kind of hope somebody else picks Clowney and his baggage, so we end up with Mack later.  Been saying this a while. I think they target another starting DE and another starting OG in Free Agency too.  Being a Georgia fan, I like the pick of Aaron Murray here, but I think the Jags might try to get McCarron or Garoppolo in the 3rd though. 

Also, if Marquise Lee lasted that long, I'd look for Denver to try to trade up with possibly  Arizonza to snag him to replace Eric Decker, who is probably leaving the team in Free Agency.  Can you imagine? Demaryious Thomas, Lee, Wes Welker and TE J. Thomas with Manning throwing to them.   Another record year...until they face the Seahawks again.

Caldwell's focus of draft now becoming a little more clear.  Not sure he is in love with any of the top QB's at #3, and not sure he wants the risk of Clowney busting.  If his buddies from Atlanta call him to trade up for Clowney, Caldwell won't hesitate to move down.  He is almost still guaranteed to get DE Mack, WR Watkins or one of the top 3 QB's at #6, AND an extra pick early in round 2, where several interior line starters and quality WR's can be found.  Unfortunately, Jag fans may still have to watch Henne start, and maybe even see Gabbert in teal one more year, but the building blocks and core will be looking a lot better.

 

1. HOU - QB B. Bortles

2. STL - OT G. Robinson

3. ATL - DE J. Clowney (from JAC)

4. CLE - QB T. Bridgewater

5. OAK - OT J. Matthews

6. JAC - DE K. Mack (from ATL) - The defensive playmaker/passrusher Jags need desperately

7. TAM - WR S. Watkins

8. MIN - QB J. Manziel

9. BUF - OLB A. Barr

10. DET - CB D. Dennard

11. TEN - WR M. Evans

12. NYG - OT T. Lewan

13. STL - CB J. Gilbert

14. CHI - DT A. Donald

15. PIT - S H. Clinton-Dix

16. DAL - DT T. Jernigan

17. BAL - LB C.J. Mosley

18. NYJ - WR M. Lee

19. MIA - OT Z. Martin

20. ARI - OLB D. Ford

21. G.B.- TE E. Ebron

22. PHI - S C. Pryor

23. K.C.- WR O. Beckham Jr

24. CIN - OLB R. Shazier

25. S.D. - CB J. Verrett

26. CLE - WR K. Benjamin

27. N.O. - WR B. Cooks

28. CAR - OT C. Kouandjio

29. N.E. - TE J. Amaro

30. S.F. - NT L. Nix

31. DEN - DE K. Ealy

32. SEA - DT R. Hageman

 

Rnd 2 - WR Allen Robinson, Penn St (Caldwell does not hesitate to find starting WR due to questions on Blackmon)

Rnd 2 - OG David Yankey, Stanford (starter at LOG beside Joeckel for next decade

Rnd 3 - OC Travis Swanson, Arkansas (dropped slightly, will be a steal here and a quality starter at Center)

Rnd 4 - RB Leche Seastrunk, Baylor (starter from day 1, rotates with Todman)

Rnd4 - QB Z. Mettenberger, LSU or A. Murray, UGA (finally a QB, but could sit out most of year and develop)

Remaining picks - Defensive depth

 

Free Agency:  Sign a starting OG and starting DE

My latest thoughts on first round:


 

1. HOU - QB B. Bortles (Texans take QB of the future over bust-risk Clowney)


2. STL - OT G. Robinson (upside of this athletic beast too good to pass up for Rams)


3. ATL - DE J. Clowney (from JAC) (Clowney gets his wish, and Falcons get their stud DE)


4. CLE - QB T. Bridgewater (Browns bluff of favoring Carr over other QB’s works)


5. OAK - OT J. Matthews (Raiders pass on Manziel for the most NFL-ready prospect of 2014)


6. JAC - DE K. Mack (from ATL) (The defensive playmaker & pass rusher Jags need desperately)


7. TAM - WR S. Watkins (Sammy paired with V-Jack could be a scary combo for opposing DB’s)


8. MIN - QB J. Manziel (Vikings hope Johnny can be a modern day Fran Tarkenton)


9. BUF - OLB A. Barr (Could be WR Mike Evans here, but OLB a big need and BAP)


10. DET - CB D. Dennard (Lions take home-state shut-down CB without hesitation)


11. TEN – CB J. Gilbert (CB Alterraun Verner expected to leave in Free Agency)


12. NYG - OT T. Lewan (Biggest priority for G-men is to protect declining Eli Manning)


13. STL – WR M. Evans (Rams would be ecstatic if Evans made it to them here)


14. CHI - DT A. Donald (Impressive DT suits Bears needs just fine)


15. PIT – FS H. Clinton-Dix (Steelers need OLB, but can pass up help at Safety)


16. DAL – DT T. Jernigan (Cowboys grab solid DT  for their worn-out D-line)


17. BAL - LB C.J. Mosley (Ravens built around their LB’s and upgrade with Mosley)


18. NYJ - WR M. Lee (Lee should be a lock to Jets if still available here)


19. MIA - OT Z. Martin (Will the Dolphins dare take any other position in round 1?)


20. ARI - OLB D. Ford (The Cardinals are a wildcard here, and could trade down)


21. G.B.- TE E. Ebron (Jamarcus Finley not expected back, and Ebron would be a great fit)


22. PHI - FS C. Pryor (Safety has been penciled-in to the Eagles for months now)


23. K.C.- WR O. Beckham Jr (Dynamic WR/KR adds to already talented offense)


24. CIN - OLB R. Shazier (May be a slight reach, but James Harrison is on his last legs)


25. S.D. - CB J. Verrett (Best available CB brings some speed to Chargers secondary)


26. CLE - WR K. Benjamin (A big red zone target to couple with Josh Gordon, Teddy smiles)


27. N.O. - WR B. Cooks (Will be the Saints “Wes Welker” in slot for Drew Brees)


28. CAR - OT C. Koundjio (OT a must-have for Panthers who probably lose Jordan Gross)


29. N.E. – NT L. Nix (Big NT falls a little, but Pats happy to have Wilfork’s replacement)


30. S.F. – DT R. Hageman (Justin Smith can’t be too far from retirement, Hageman could go higher)


31. DEN - DE K. Ealy (Could be a WR here to replace Decker, but Ealy too talented to pass up)


32. SEA – TE J. Amaro (The rich get richer as last piece of the offensive puzzle falls in place)


 

P.S. Is it sad that I have almost memorized the entire draft order?


 

Round 2 notes:  Jags take a WR  (Allen Robinson?) and an OG (Su'a-Filo or Yankey) in round 2 with extra pick from Atlanta.  QB David Carr goes to Oakland.  Denver takes WR Donte Moncrief or Jordan Matthews at end or round 2 to replace Eric Decker, and rookie WR catches 10 TD passes. 

Quote:My latest thoughts on first round:


 

1. HOU - QB B. Bortles (Texans take QB of the future over bust-risk Clowney)


2. STL - OT G. Robinson (upside of this athletic beast too good to pass up for Rams)


3. ATL - DE J. Clowney (from JAC) (Clowney gets his wish, and Falcons get their stud DE)


4. CLE - QB T. Bridgewater (Browns bluff of favoring Carr over other QB’s works)


5. OAK - OT J. Matthews (Raiders pass on Manziel for the most NFL-ready prospect of 2014)


6. JAC - DE K. Mack (from ATL) (The defensive playmaker & pass rusher Jags need desperately)


7. TAM - WR S. Watkins (Sammy paired with V-Jack could be a scary combo for opposing DB’s)


8. MIN - QB J. Manziel (Vikings hope Johnny can be a modern day Fran Tarkenton)


9. BUF - OLB A. Barr (Could be WR Mike Evans here, but OLB a big need and BAP)


10. DET - CB D. Dennard (Lions take home-state shut-down CB without hesitation)


11. TEN – CB J. Gilbert (CB Alterraun Verner expected to leave in Free Agency)


12. NYG - OT T. Lewan (Biggest priority for G-men is to protect declining Eli Manning)


13. STL – WR M. Evans (Rams would be ecstatic if Evans made it to them here)


14. CHI - DT A. Donald (Impressive DT suits Bears needs just fine)


15. PIT – FS H. Clinton-Dix (Steelers need OLB, but can pass up help at Safety)


16. DAL – DT T. Jernigan (Cowboys grab solid DT  for their worn-out D-line)


17. BAL - LB C.J. Mosley (Ravens built around their LB’s and upgrade with Mosley)


18. NYJ - WR M. Lee (Lee should be a lock to Jets if still available here)


19. MIA - OT Z. Martin (Will the Dolphins dare take any other position in round 1?)


20. ARI - OLB D. Ford (The Cardinals are a wildcard here, and could trade down)


21. G.B.- TE E. Ebron (Jamarcus Finley not expected back, and Ebron would be a great fit)


22. PHI - FS C. Pryor (Safety has been penciled-in to the Eagles for months now)


23. K.C.- WR O. Beckham Jr (Dynamic WR/KR adds to already talented offense)


24. CIN - OLB R. Shazier (May be a slight reach, but James Harrison is on his last legs)


25. S.D. - CB J. Verrett (Best available CB brings some speed to Chargers secondary)


26. CLE - WR K. Benjamin (A big red zone target to couple with Josh Gordon, Teddy smiles)


27. N.O. - WR B. Cooks (Will be the Saints “Wes Welker” in slot for Drew Brees)


28. CAR - OT C. Koundjio (OT a must-have for Panthers who probably lose Jordan Gross)


29. N.E. – NT L. Nix (Big NT falls a little, but Pats happy to have Wilfork’s replacement)


30. S.F. – DT R. Hageman (Justin Smith can’t be too far from retirement, Hageman could go higher)


31. DEN - DE K. Ealy (Could be a WR here to replace Decker, but Ealy too talented to pass up)


32. SEA – TE J. Amaro (The rich get richer as last piece of the offensive puzzle falls in place)


 

P.S. Is it sad that I have almost memorized the entire draft order?


 

Round 2 notes:  Jags take a WR  (Allen Robinson?) and an OG (Su'a-Filo or Yankey) in round 2 with extra pick from Atlanta.  QB David Carr goes to Oakland.  Denver takes WR Donte Moncrief or Jordan Matthews at end or round 2 to replace Eric Decker, and rookie WR catches 10 TD passes. 

Good mock. I had to guess where Watkins might land if the Raiders don't take him.  It would be interesting for the Vikings to take a flyer on Manziel, perhaps Spielman will make another attempt at over drafting a QB. I think Spielman knows he's on thin ice so Im not sure he would take a chance.  Would be surprised if Koundjio is still a 1st round pick after his disastrous combine. 

 

It's just odd not mocking a QB to the Jaguars, but it truly does seem that we will have to wait a couple years till we invest in one. 

Quote:Good mock. I had to guess where Watkins might land if the Raiders don't take him.  It would be interesting for the Vikings to take a flyer on Manziel, perhaps Spielman will make another attempt at over drafting a QB. I think Spielman knows he's on thin ice so Im not sure he would take a chance.  Would be surprised if Koundjio is still a 1st round pick after his disastrous combine. 

 

It's just odd not mocking a QB to the Jaguars, but it truly does seem that we will have to wait a couple years till we invest in one. 

Yeah, I thought about that for the Vikings also, but they are desperate for a new QB. If they don't trade up, Manziel or Carr, both bust prospects, will be their guy.  Maybe Garoppolo in the 2nd I guess.  I can see some Vikings fans comparing Manziel to their hero of yester-year, Tarkenton. Great legs, decent arm, just a playmaker.  I have swapped Koundjio and Morgan Moses back and forth between 1st and 2nd round several times now.

 

On the Jags, yes it is odd not to give them a QB, but none are a sure thing again, and we still need building blocks at so many other positions  If Henne is resigned, expect him to be the starter on opening day.  If we don't trade down, and Clowney is gone,  I see Caldwell taking Mack over Bridewater or Manziel, but possibly taking Bortles over Mack.  We really need that extra round 2 pick to rebuild the interior O-line though.

Quote:Caldwell's focus of draft now becoming a little more clear.  Not sure he is in love with any of the top QB's at #3, and not sure he wants the risk of Clowney busting.  If his buddies from Atlanta call him to trade up for Clowney, Caldwell won't hesitate to move down.  He is almost still guaranteed to get DE Mack, WR Watkins or one of the top 3 QB's at #6, AND an extra pick early in round 2, where several interior line starters and quality WR's can be found.  Unfortunately, Jag fans may still have to watch Henne start, and maybe even see Gabbert in teal one more year, but the building blocks and core will be looking a lot better.

 

1. HOU - QB B. Bortles

2. STL - OT G. Robinson

3. ATL - DE J. Clowney (from JAC)

4. CLE - QB T. Bridgewater

5. OAK - OT J. Matthews

6. JAC - DE K. Mack (from ATL) - The defensive playmaker/passrusher Jags need desperately

7. TAM - WR S. Watkins

8. MIN - QB J. Manziel

9. BUF - OLB A. Barr

10. DET - CB D. Dennard

11. TEN - WR M. Evans

12. NYG - OT T. Lewan

13. STL - CB J. Gilbert

14. CHI - DT A. Donald

15. PIT - S H. Clinton-Dix

16. DAL - DT T. Jernigan

17. BAL - LB C.J. Mosley

18. NYJ - WR M. Lee

19. MIA - OT Z. Martin

20. ARI - OLB D. Ford

21. G.B.- TE E. Ebron

22. PHI - S C. Pryor

23. K.C.- WR O. Beckham Jr

24. CIN - OLB R. Shazier

25. S.D. - CB J. Verrett

26. CLE - WR K. Benjamin

27. N.O. - WR B. Cooks

28. CAR - OT C. Kouandjio

29. N.E. - TE J. Amaro

30. S.F. - NT L. Nix

31. DEN - DE K. Ealy

32. SEA - DT R. Hageman

 

Rnd 2 - WR Allen Robinson, Penn St (Caldwell does not hesitate to find starting WR due to questions on Blackmon)

Rnd 2 - OG David Yankey, Stanford (starter at LOG beside Joeckel for next decade

Rnd 3 - OC Travis Swanson, Arkansas (dropped slightly, will be a steal here and a quality starter at Center)

Rnd 4 - RB Leche Seastrunk, Baylor (starter from day 1, rotates with Todman)

Rnd4 - QB Z. Mettenberger, LSU or A. Murray, UGA (finally a QB, but could sit out most of year and develop)

Remaining picks - Defensive depth

 

Free Agency:  Sign a starting OG and starting DE

I like the trade and taking Mack in the 1st. Also like Yankey in the 2nd and Swanson in the 3rd. However, I'd take the best q.b. available in the 2nd round- either

McCarron or Garrapalo. Instead of Robinson in the 2nd, I'd take a receiver in the 4th as it's a very deep position and, as a Penn State fan, I have a feeling Robinson will be a bust in the pros. He was a great college receiver who was a mismatch against most cornerbacks, but he runs lazy routes which will hurt him in the pros.

Quote:I like the trade and taking Mack in the 1st. Also like Yankey in the 2nd and Swanson in the 3rd. However, I'd take the best q.b. available in the 2nd round- either

McCarron or Garrapalo. Instead of Robinson in the 2nd, I'd take a receiver in the 4th as it's a very deep position and, as a Penn State fan, I have a feeling Robinson will be a bust in the pros. He was a great college receiver who was a mismatch against most cornerbacks, but he runs lazy routes which will hurt him in the pros.

Thanks for the insight on Allen.  We are going to need starter-quality WR either in Free Agency or the draft though.  I don't see Blackmon contributing, Shorts is always a question mark with injuries, and Sanders is purely slot.  I am pretty much convinced Henne will be our starter this year if we don't take a QB at the top of the 1st round anyways. We also NEED a RB to start. Therefore, unfortunately QB gets pushed back some. 

 

Here is a new take on my guesses.  Not ideal for the QB situation. This is with us trading back to #6 and picking up the extra round 2 pick from Atlanta:

Rnd 1 - WR Sammy Watkins, Clemson

Rnd 2 - OG David Yankey, Stanford

Rnd 2 - DE Scott Crighton, Oregon State

Rnd 3 - OC Travis Swanson, Arkansas

Rnd 4 - RB Leche Seastrunk, Baylor

Rnd 4 - LB Christian Jones, FSU

Rnd 5 - QB Aaron Murray or Zack Mettenberger (both may be gone I know)

Rnd 5 - BAP DB

Rnd 5 -WR Jeff Janis, Saginaw Valley St

Rnd 6 - DE Michael Sam, Missouri  (This will really bring some media attention to Jax, LOL)

Rnd 7 - QB Tom Savage, Pitt

Quote:Thanks for the insight on Allen.  We are going to need starter-quality WR either in Free Agency or the draft though.  I don't see Blackmon contributing, Shorts is always a question mark with injuries, and Sanders is purely slot.  I am pretty much convinced Henne will be our starter this year if we don't take a QB at the top of the 1st round anyways. We also NEED a RB to start. Therefore, unfortunately QB gets pushed back some. 

 

Here is a new take on my guesses.  Not ideal for the QB situation. This is with us trading back to #6 and picking up the extra round 2 pick from Atlanta:

Rnd 1 - WR Sammy Watkins, Clemson

Rnd 2 - OG David Yankey, Stanford

Rnd 2 - DE Scott Crighton, Oregon State

Rnd 3 - OC Travis Swanson, Arkansas

Rnd 4 - RB Leche Seastrunk, Baylor

Rnd 4 - LB Christian Jones, FSU

Rnd 5 - QB Aaron Murray or Zack Mettenberger (both may be gone I know)

Rnd 5 - BAP DB

Rnd 5 -WR Jeff Janis, Saginaw Valley St

Rnd 6 - DE Michael Sam, Missouri  (This will really bring some media attention to Jax, LOL)

Rnd 7 - QB Tom Savage, Pitt

 

As bad as Jax needs a QB, I wouldn't mind this scenario at all.. Watkins & Seastruck could be a deadly combo.. And am I the only one who can see Murray being a successful NFL QB on this board? Yeah he's hurt, but he has the tangibles to get it done.. Not trying to sound masochistic, but his injury could be a God Send to the Jags if they take him in the later rounds and he proves to be a good QB..

Quote:As bad as Jax needs a QB, I wouldn't mind this scenario at all.. Watkins & Seastruck could be a deadly combo.. And am I the only one who can see Murray being a successful NFL QB on this board? Yeah he's hurt, but he has the tangibles to get it done.. Not trying to sound masochistic, but his injury could be a God Send to the Jags if they take him in the later rounds and he proves to be a good QB..

Agreed. If we couldn't get a QB high in the draft I would love for the Jags to be able to pick up Murray.

Quote:As bad as Jax needs a QB, I wouldn't mind this scenario at all.. Watkins & Seastruck could be a deadly combo.. And am I the only one who can see Murray being a successful NFL QB on this board? Yeah he's hurt, but he has the tangibles to get it done.. Not trying to sound masochistic, but his injury could be a God Send to the Jags if they take him in the later rounds and he proves to be a good QB..

Yep, and can you imagine if Blackmon was able to get his life on track and did come back for most of the season?  Blackmon, Watkins, Shorts and Sanders in the slot would be one of the best WR line-ups in the NFL.  Henne would be in hog heaven with that group a fortified interior O-line.   Would make almost any QB look good...except Gabbert probably.

Quote:... am I the only one who can see Murray being a successful NFL QB on this board? Yeah he's hurt, but he has the tangibles to get it done.. Not trying to sound masochistic, but his injury could be a God Send to the Jags if they take him in the later rounds and he proves to be a good QB..

 

The major issue that I have with Murray is his height and the effect that it has had on his passing. He has worked behind some massive Offensive Lines and all, but he's also struggled with batted passes. I think he has a lot of tools that will make him effective, I just worry that he may end up wasting downs due to his passes getting swatted into the dirt.

With Round 2 now included:

 

1. HOU - QB B. Bortles (Texans take QB of the future over bust-risk Clowney)


2. STL - OT G. Robinson (upside of this athletic beast too good to pass up for Rams)


3. ATL - DE J. Clowney (from JAC) (Clowney gets his wish, and Falcons get their stud DE)


4. CLE - QB T. Bridgewater (Browns bluff of favoring Carr over other QB’s works)


5. OAK - OT J. Matthews (Raiders pass on Manziel for the most NFL-ready prospect of 2014)


6. JAC - DE K. Mack (from ATL) (The defensive playmaker & pass rusher Jags need desperately)


7. TAM - WR S. Watkins (Sammy paired with V-Jack could be a scary combo for opposing DB’s)


8. MIN - QB J. Manziel (Vikings hope Johnny can be a modern day Fran Tarkenton)


9. BUF - OLB A. Barr (Could be WR Mike Evans here, but OLB a big need and BAP)


10. DET - CB D. Dennard (Lions take home-state shut-down CB without hesitation)


11. TEN – CB J. Gilbert (A. Verner set to leave in F.A)


12. NYG - OT T. Lewan (Biggest priority for G-men is to protect declining Eli Manning)


13. STL – WR M. Evans (Will be CB if Evans gone and Dennard or Gilbert available)


14. CHI - DT A. Donald (Impressive DT suits Bears needs just fine)


15. PIT – FS H. Clinton-Dix (Steelers need WR too, but can pass up help at Safety)


16. DAL – DT T. Jernigan (Cowboys grab solid DT  for their worn-out D-line)


17. BAL - LB C.J. Mosley (Ravens built around their LB’s and upgrade with Mosley)


18. NYJ - WR M. Lee (Lee should be a lock to Jets if still available here)


19. MIA - OT Z. Martin (Will the Dolphins dare take any other position in round 1?)


20. ARI - OLB D. Ford (The Cardinals are a wildcard here, and could trade down)


21. G.B.- TE E. Ebron (Jamarcus Finley not expected back, and Ebron would be a great fit)


22. PHI - FS C. Pryor (Safety has been penciled-in to the Eagles for months now)


23. K.C.- WR O. Beckham Jr (Dynamic WR/KR adds to already talented offense)


24. CIN - OLB R. Shazier (May be a slight reach, but James Harrison is on his last legs)


25. S.D. - CB J. Verrett (Best available CB brings some speed to Chargers secondary)


26. CLE - WR K. Benjamin (A big red zone target to couple with Josh Gordon, Teddy smiles)


27. N.O. - WR B. Cooks (Will be the Saints “Wes Welker” in slot for Drew Brees)


28. CAR - OT M. Moses (OT a must-have for Panthers who probably lose Jordan Gross)


29. N.E. – NT L. Nix (Big NT falls a little, but Pats happy to have Wilfork’s replacement)


30. S.F. – DT R. Hageman (Justin Smith can’t be too far from retirement, Hageman could go higher)


31. DEN - DE K. Ealy (Could be a WR here to replace Decker, but Ealy too talented to pass up)


32. SEA – TE J. Amaro (The rich get richer as last piece of the offensive puzzle falls in place)         


 

33. HOU – OG X. Sua-Filo


34. WAS – CB K. Fuller


35. CLE – DT S. Tuitt


36. OAK – QB D. Carr


37. JAC – OG D. Yankey (from ATL)


38. TAM – OLB K. Van Noy


39. JAC – WR J. Matthews (could be QB J. Garoppolo if Caldwell really likes him that much)


40. MIN – DE S. Crighton


41. BUF – TE A. Saf-Jenkins


42. TEN – OT C. Koundjio


43. NYG – CB B. Roby


44. STL – CB M. Roberson


45. DET – WR A. Robinson


46. PIT – OLB C. Bradford


47. DAL – OG G. Jackson


48. BAL – OT A. Richardson


49. NYJ – OLB T. Reily


50. MIA – RB T. Mason


51. CHI – S J. Ward


52. ARI – QB J. Garoppollo


53. G.B.- DE T. Murphy


54. PHI – CB L. Joyner


55. CIN – DE K. Martin


56. S.F. – WR D. Adams


57. S.D. – WR P. Richardson


58. N.O. – DE D. Easley


59. IND – OC M. Martin


60. CAR – WR J. Landry


61. S.F. – CB J. Watkins


62. N.E. – TE T. Niklas


63. DEN – WR D. Moncrief


64. SEA – OT J. Mewhort


 

Or would you all rather see 1. WR Sammy Watkins 2. DE Scott Crighton  combo over Mack - Matthews?

Here's and interesting one I made with Manziel falling and a certain team trading up to get him:

 

1. HOU- DE J. Clowney


2. STL - OT G. Robinson


3. JAC – QB T. Bridgewater


4. CLE – WR S. Watkins


5. OAK - OT J. Matthews


6. ATL - DE K. Mack


7. TAM – QB B. Bortles


8. MIN – OLB A. Barr


9. BUF – WR M. Evans


10. DET - CB D. Dennard


11. TEN – OT T. Lewan


12. NYG – DT A. Donald


13. STL –CB J. Gilbert


14. CHI - DT T. Jernigan


15. PIT – FS H. Clinton-Dix


16. DAL – DT R. Hageman


17. BAL - LB C.J. Mosley


18. NYJ – WR B. Cooks


19. MIA - OT Z. Martin


20. ARI - OLB D. Ford


21. G.B.- TE E. Ebron


22. PHI - FS C. Pryor


23. K.C.- WR M. Lee


24. CIN – DE K. Ealy


25. HOU – QB J. Manziel


26. CLE – QB D. Carr


27. N.O. - WR O. Beckham Jr


28. CAR - OT M. Moses


29. N.E. – NT L. Nix


30. S.F. – CB J. Verrett


31. DEN – DT S. Tuitt


32. SEA – OG X. Sua-Filo                                                                                                                                 


 

33. S.D. – WR K. Benjamin(from HOU)


34. WAS – CB B. Roby


35. CLE – OLB R. Shazier


36. OAK – TE J. Amaro


37. ATL – TE A. Saf-Jenkins


38. TAM – OLB K. Van Noy


39. JAC – OG D. Yankey


 

*The Texans give the Chargers their 2nd, 3rd and 4th round picks for #25 to draft Manziel after he falls.  Texans come away with Clowney AND Manziel.


**While I'd rather have Mack or Watkins for instant impact this year, I would not be mad if Bridgewater was the pick for the Jags.  And Yankey in round 2 would really help re-build the interior line.

MOCK 8.0 / DRAFT OF THE CENTURY / QB'S FALL

 

1. Houston Texans (2-14) - Jadeveon Clowney DE

 

2. St. Louis Rams
(Skins 3-13) - Jake Matthews OT 

 

3. Jacksonville Jaguars
 (4-12) - Khalil Mack OLB 

 

4. Cleveland Browns (4-12) - Blake Bortles QB 

 

5. Oakland Raiders (4-12) - Sammy Watkins WR  

 

<p style="color:rgb(0,0,0);">6. <b>Atlanta Falcons </b>
(4-12) - Greg Robinson OT 

 

7. Tampa Bay Buccs (4-12) - Teddy Bridgewater QB 

 

8. Minnesota Vikings (5-10-1) - Justin Gilbert CB 

 

9.  Buffalo Bills (6-10) -  Mike Evans WR 

 

10. Detroit Lions (6-10) -  Taylor Lewan OT

 

11. Tennesse Titans - Darqueze Dennard CB

12. New York Giants - Aaron Donald DT

13. St. Louis Rams - Calvin Pyror S 

14. Chicago Bears - Timmy Jernigan DT

15. Pittsburgh Steelers - Rashede Hageman DT

16. Dallas Cowboys - Anthony Barr OLB 

17. Baltimore Ravens -  C.J. Mosley ILB

18. New York Jets - Marquise Lee WR

19. Miami Dolphins - Zach Martin OT

20. Arizona Cardinals - Derek Carr QB 

21. Green Bay Packers - Eric Ebron TE 

22. Philadelphia Eagles - HAHA Clinton-Dix S

23. Kansas City Chiefs -  Odell Beckman WR

24. Cincinnati Bengals - Dee Ford DE 

25. San Diego Chargers - Bradley Roby CB

26. Cleveland Browns - Kelvin Benjamin WR

27. New Orleans Saints - Xavier Su’a Filo OG  

28. Carolina Panthers -  Morgan Moses OT

29. New England Patriots - Louis Nix NT 

30. San Francisco 49ers -Jason Verrett CB

31. Denver Broncos -  Ryan Shazier OLB 

32. *Trade* Jacksonville Jaguars
- Johnny Manziel QB

Jacksonville trades 2nd Round, 4th Round, and 5th round for Seahawks 1st Round Pick 

 I'm expected Johnny to fall because of just the nature of this draft. So much talent at every position, I expect many teams to pursue other quarterback options versus taking a flyer on Johnny. It will be a Tebow fail all over again, except with different results in the end. 

 

 

Jaguars: 
1st Round  Khalil Mack OLB 
1st Round  Johnny Manziel QB  
3rd Round  Travis Swanson C 
4th Round  Lache Seastrunk HB  
5th Round  Deandre Coleman DT
5th Round  Crockett Gilmore TE
6th Round  Kevin Norwood WR
7th Round  Charles Sawyer S

Tebow fail with different results in the end? Whaaat?