Quote:I was taught the best leader was a New York governor. His name was Franklin Delano Roosevelt. He took this country out of the worst financial crisis in American history. Ronald Reagan was the CA governor so he did have political experience. And no, he was not the best President. The economy got worse with him.
I was never taught the best leaders in American history were average Joes lacking political experience. George Washington was an Army general, right?
I did not say somebody must be a "career politician" to know what he or she is doing as a President. I just said it helps a lot to have political experience.
FDR gave us the raw deal, the greatest expansion of government - which our own government was founded to protect us FROM. It was war that turned around the economy and put everyone to work. Without it, we would have been bankrupted.
Reagan is the best President of our lifetime, and it isn't even close. The economic boom under his leadership happened was fueled by tax cuts and removal of crippling regulation. Few times in history did the economy grow at the pace under his leadership.
Washington was one of the very people I talked about. He was no career politician. He was a surveyor by trade and served in the military. He certainly was no politician. He did not want the job. In fact, he had to be begged to serve as President.
For someone who thinks they know so much, actually knows very little. Yet you are extremely confident in your falsehoods. That's both sad and dangerous.
Quote:I'm not calling you uneducated, just misinformed.
Grossly misinformed. She's probably asking mom ("fact checking") you right now.
Quote:Did she admit it?
She's not going to admit to anything because she's a lying sack of crap. She's possibly the most corrupt individual to seek the office in a century or more. You asked arguably the dumbest question possible in response to that reality. Please stop telling us you're not ignorant. This question says otherwise.
Quote:Grossly misinformed. She's probably asking mom ("fact checking") you right now.
Mom does not know what I am doing. I only told her to vote NO on 1.
I went to vote today and this overenthusiastic lady from the republican tent set up outside tried to give me a sample ballot. I told her I didn't need one, that I knew who I was voting for. She looked disappointed. My husband took it. We come out and she's all, "I hope we win!!" with a big grin and eyebrows up in her hairline. I gave her a thumbs up and gave a not so excited, "yay!" just to see her reaction. You'd have thought I ran over her dog. It was funny. My husband told me to not be mean. Lol.
Quote:Mom does not know what I am doing. I only told her to vote NO on 1.
Very controlling aren't ya?
Quote:Because he is not a career politician is his best attribute.
I actually think it's his only redeeming quality but that's not enough to redeem him.
That aside, How do you all justify this stance after nearly eight years of deriding Obama as a community organizer who was not qualified for the office president?
This is an open question since a whole lot of you have written something of the sort many times over.
Annnnnd start your spingines!
Quote:I actually think it's his only redeeming quality but that's not enough to redeem him.
That aside, How do you all justify this stance after nearly eight years of deriding Obama as a community organizer who was not qualified for the office president?
This is an open question since a whole lot of you have written something of the sort many times over.
Annnnnd start your spingines!
There was never any reason for anyone to believe Barack Obama was not qualified to be President. The birther crap was a lie that the state of Hawaii disproved. It amazes me that the idea he was born in Kenya persisted after his long form birth certificate was publicly released. Why did it take eight years for Donald Trump to accept the fact that Obama was born in the United States? You can't justify it.
Quote:I actually think it's his only redeeming quality but that's not enough to redeem him.
That aside, How do you all justify this stance after nearly eight years of deriding Obama as a community organizer who was not qualified for the office president?
This is an open question since a whole lot of you have written something of the sort many times over.
Annnnnd start your spingines!
Trump the CEO > Oblahblah the community agitator. Not hard at all.
Quote:There was never any reason for anyone to believe Barack Obama was not qualified to be President. The birther crap was a lie that the state of Hawaii disproved. It amazes me that the idea he was born in Kenya persisted after his long form birth certificate was publicly released. Why did it take eight years for Donald Trump to accept the fact that Obama was born in the United States? You can't justify it.
His thin resume perfectly foreshadowed his disastrous presidency.
It'd be great if I could look at the results so far on this poll and think it has a shot of playing out that way throughout the rest of the country.
Quote:I actually think it's his only redeeming quality but that's not enough to redeem him.
That aside, How do you all justify this stance after nearly eight years of deriding Obama as a community organizer who was not qualified for the office president?
This is an open question since a whole lot of you have written something of the sort many times over.
Annnnnd start your spingines!
Obama had no qualifications to run anything, let alone this nation. He was an unaccomplished state senator who had powerful backers who turned him into an unaccomplished US Senator after leaking sealed details about a nasty divorce his opponent had endured. In both positions, he was absent or not participating the majority of the time. Voting present was his greatest accomplishment in Springfield, and he was running for president for most of his one senate term in DC. He didn't sponsor any meaningful legislation, but parlayed his power backing into a presidential bid. The guy was completely unaccomplished, but he could read a TelePrompTer, and he was half black. That's all he needed to win the presidency against a downright weak opponent who was terrified to point out his shortcomings out of fear he'd be labeled a racist.
Obama is and always was a puppet. He was sold as some genius, but there is nothing tangible to support that. He claimed to be a constitutional scholar, but his presidency has shown his lack of regard for it. He was raised by communists, and surrounded by radicals his entire life. He's never run anything. Never made a payroll. Never produced anything beyond two autobiographies, one ghost written by a domestic terrorist.
To say Obama was an empty suit in 2008 would be an insult to empty suits.
Quote:His thin resume perfectly foreshadowed his disastrous presidency.
At least it included Constittional law and some government experience. Trump complains our Constitutional rights are being stripped away while he makes multiple proposals and statements which fly in the face of what the Constitution is built to preserve. He doesn't know the Constitution, the law or basic government. But he's gonna cure all that ails America. A business man so successful he would have made significantly more money by not going into business at all and investing. Pass.
Quote:Trump the CEO > Oblahblah the community agitator. Not hard at all.
Multiple companies ridden into the ground. Moron attempted to out multiple casinos in the same place got into housing market right before with crash. The only thing he's been successful at is selling his name to things.
Obama at least had experience in law.
Regardless my point was one was vilified for not having experience and now it's lauded as the best possible qualification. It's hypocrisy plain and simple.
Quote:Obama had no qualifications to run anything, let alone this nation. He was an unaccomplished state senator who had powerful backers who turned him into an unaccomplished US Senator after leaking sealed details about a nasty divorce his opponent had endured. In both positions, he was absent or not participating the majority of the time. Voting present was his greatest accomplishment in Springfield, and he was running for president for most of his one senate term in DC. He didn't sponsor any meaningful legislation, but parlayed his power backing into a presidential bid. The guy was completely unaccomplished, but he could read a TelePrompTer, and he was half black. That's all he needed to win the presidency against a downright weak opponent who was terrified to point out his shortcomings out of fear he'd be labeled a racist.
Obama is and always was a puppet. He was sold as some genius, but there is nothing tangible to support that. He claimed to be a constitutional scholar, but his presidency has shown his lack of regard for it. He was raised by communists, and surrounded by radicals his entire life. He's never run anything. Never made a payroll. Never produced anything beyond two autobiographies, one ghost written by a domestic terrorist.
To say Obama was an empty suit in 2008 would be an insult to empty suits.
No puppet, no puppet. You're the puppet.
That was a very well worded deflection. It doesn't exain how you all justify an obvious double standard at best.
Quote:At least it included Constittional law and some government experience. Trump complains our Constitutional rights are being stripped away while he makes multiple proposals and statements which fly in the face of what the Constitution is built to preserve. He doesn't know the Constitution, the law or basic government. But he's gonna cure all that ails America. A business man so successful he would have made significantly more money by not going into business at all and investing. Pass.
This is exactly why the idea of giving a political newbie the world's most powerful job scares me. You can't trust an average Joe with billions of dollars to work for all American people the right way and at the same time start or join a third war.
Quote:No puppet, no puppet. You're the puppet.
That was a very well worded deflection. It doesn't exain how you all justify an obvious double standard at best.
So FBT is the puppet here, not the person he calls a puppet.