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(08-31-2020, 02:53 PM)fredalwaysajag Wrote: [ -> ]Anybody got any clues on who the best fantasy back on the team is now? And whatever happened to that back from S.C.? The udfa. Can't think of his name. Tavin or sumn??

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Never mind. I see he's with the g men. Tavien Feaster

Late round flier on Chris Thompson in ppr leagues.
Other than that Chark and Lambo the only Jag players with fantasy value...

(08-31-2020, 03:00 PM)Jagwired Wrote: [ -> ]and here you all thought they brought him in to be an analyst/assistant.

Ummmmm?

(08-31-2020, 04:00 PM)jaglyn Wrote: [ -> ]Can we re-sign Denard Robinson? What’s he up to?

They reportedly tried to trade him and got no offers.

If other backs are performing better in this offense, what's the point in keeping the highest paid back on the roster if he will only have limited use?

His salary will give us that much more ammo to use next off season to aggressively fill roster holes.

(08-31-2020, 03:00 PM)Jagwired Wrote: [ -> ]and here you all thought they brought him in to be an analyst/assistant.

List him as a FO OW

I'm stunned. I can understand not wanting to resign him after his contract is up, but to outright CUT him and not even save cap space?!?! If we're paying him anyway just keep him on the team, there's no argument that he's not one of the 4 best RB's in camp. Even if Ozigbo, Rock Armstead or Thompson had outplayed him and he lost his starting job, 2018 showed us that injuries happen and depth isn't a bad thing. And for Marrone to say "there's nothing off-field or in the locker room that led to his release it's strictly what we saw on the field" nothing about this decision is defensible.

In the wake of this I really think we might go 4 WR's as a base offense, especially since Eifert is almost a lock to get hurt at some point.

I expect nothing, but still i'm dissapointed.

(08-31-2020, 05:49 PM)Firesky Wrote: [ -> ]I'm stunned. I can understand not wanting to resign him after his contract is up, but to outright CUT him and not even save cap space?!?! If we're paying him anyway just keep him on the team, there's no argument that he's not one of the 4 best RB's in camp. Even if Ozigbo, Rock Armstead or Thompson had outplayed him and he lost his starting job, 2018 showed us that injuries happen and depth isn't a bad thing. And for Marrone to say "there's nothing off-field or in the locker room that led to his release it's strictly what we saw on the field" nothing about this decision is defensible.

In the wake of this I really think we might go 4 WR's as a base offense, especially since Eifert is almost a lock to get hurt at some point.

I expect nothing, but still i'm dissapointed.

Pretty sure they do not have to pay him. His guaranteed monies were rescinded when he was suspended. It may end up in arbitration.

(08-31-2020, 05:55 PM)Jagwired Wrote: [ -> ]Pretty sure they do not have to pay him. His guaranteed monies were rescinded when he was suspended. It may end up in arbitration.

Somehow the ruling is still outstanding, so right now the Jags will refuse to pay him.

I think we should trade a 4th for Leveon Bell. Would be a perfect fit for Grudens offense amd what he wants to do and Jets would probably take it

I always thought he was a hindrance to the offense, mainly because the team always seemed to game plan around him being a feature running back. And quite frankly, he wasn't good enough for that. Before the last game of the season last year, I remember thinking it was good Fournette was out, that they would have to lean on Minshew instead. Gardner ended up having a fantastic day. That could have been pure coincidence, but I have my doubts. In my mind, Fournette forever tied us to that three yards and a cloud of dust offense everyone seems to hate.

So really, I like this move. It's Minshew's offense now, not Fournette's.

(08-31-2020, 05:55 PM)Jagwired Wrote: [ -> ]

(08-31-2020, 05:49 PM)Firesky Wrote: [ -> ]I'm stunned. I can understand not wanting to resign him after his contract is up, but to outright CUT him and not even save cap space?!?! If we're paying him anyway just keep him on the team, there's no argument that he's not one of the 4 best RB's in camp. Even if Ozigbo, Rock Armstead or Thompson had outplayed him and he lost his starting job, 2018 showed us that injuries happen and depth isn't a bad thing. And for Marrone to say "there's nothing off-field or in the locker room that led to his release it's strictly what we saw on the field" nothing about this decision is defensible.

In the wake of this I really think we might go 4 WR's as a base offense, especially since Eifert is almost a lock to get hurt at some point.

I expect nothing, but still i'm dissapointed.

Pretty sure they do not have to pay him. His guaranteed monies were rescinded when he was suspended. It may end up in arbitration.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20...-resolved/

That's still up in the air, my guess is he'll win the grievance and the team will be on the hook for the entire amount guaranteed.

He must've been absolute cancer in the lockerroom. First the Cam Newton tweet, congratulating Yan and Ramsey for "Escaping", hearing he's a clown in the locker room that just jokes around/[BLEEP] with other people, falling asleep in meetings, not knowing the playbook his rookie year. This can't have just come out of no where like it seems to have happened. Unless he failed an internal drug test it has to be a "culture" cut. Still makes me sick.

Fournette was the 1st RB taken in his draft class and is probably the worst one of that class.

He's average at best and some of you guys are acting like we just cut MJD in his prime lololol.

How can Dave Caldwell still have a job after this fiasco?  1st round bust after 1st round bust.  Fournette over Mahomes and Watson.  Extending BB5. Yan giving up $6 M in guaranteed money just to get out of Jacksonville.  The Jags will likely end up with 2-4 wins this season, but I can see Khan conning us all again and keeping both DC and DM despite their proven history of failure.  

Sad decade to be a Jags fan.

(08-31-2020, 07:15 PM)navyjagfan Wrote: [ -> ]How can Dave Caldwell still have a job after this fiasco?  1st round bust after 1st round bust.  Fournette over Mahomes and Watson.  Extending BB5. Yan giving up $6 M in guaranteed money just to get out of Jacksonville.  The Jags will likely end up with 2-4 wins this season, but I can see Khan conning us all again and keeping both DC and DM despite their proven history of failure.  

Sad decade to be a Jags fan.

I would take Martin Mayhew (GM) and Robert Saleh (HC) right now two weeks before the start of week one and they could probably get us to .500. 

In all realness I agree 2-4 wins and that is pushing it. The Jags will have a top 3 pick in 2021 if not the #1 pick. I will be watching a whole lot of rams games too this year as well as vikings games.

Here's what I'm hearing from main office:

Fournette sucks this year. He got cut because he sucks. There's 3 guys ahead of him on the depth chart.

I once remember when we let MJD go and all I heard was how stupid the front office was for that. Until the season started. Sorry, maybe this is the just the right thing to do.

(08-31-2020, 07:13 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]Fournette was the 1st RB taken in his draft class and is probably the worst one of that class.

He's average at best and some of you guys are acting like we just cut MJD in his prime lololol.

It's not about how good or bad Fournette was. Most of us realize he was a disappointment. It's about the complete and utter lack of depth we had behind him. We didn't draft his replacement and the most experienced guy we have in the backfield is a 5'8" 194 lb., injury prone, 3rd down back who has only played a full 16 game season, once in his career. People are upset, because this seems like a "knee jerk" move that wasn't thought out at all. We all expected Fournette to be gone after the season, but since the team completely ignored RB in the draft and since we already had poor depth at the position, we were prepared to go into the season with Fournette, like it or not. This move just doesn't make sense without a real replacement.

(08-31-2020, 07:50 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]

(08-31-2020, 07:13 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]Fournette was the 1st RB taken in his draft class and is probably the worst one of that class.

He's average at best and some of you guys are acting like we just cut MJD in his prime lololol.

It's not about how good or bad Fournette was. Most of us realize he was a disappointment. It's about the complete and utter lack of depth we had behind him. We didn't draft his replacement and the most experienced guy we have in the backfield is a 5'8" 194 lb., injury prone, 3rd down back who has only played a full 16 game season, once in his career. People are upset, because this seems like a "knee jerk" move that wasn't thought out at all. We all expected Fournette to be gone after the season, but since the team completely ignored RB in the draft and since we already had poor depth at the position, we were prepared to go into the season with Fournette, like it or not. This move just doesn't make sense without a real replacement.

We don't know if we have a replacement because they never got a chance to try and show it last season. Armstead had like 30 total carries on the entire season.

I'd rather see what we have in Armstead, Ozigbo and rookie James Robinson. We already know what we had in Fournette and it wasn't close to anything special.

(08-31-2020, 04:09 PM)Kane Wrote: [ -> ]

(08-31-2020, 02:53 PM)fredalwaysajag Wrote: [ -> ]Anybody got any clues on who the best fantasy back on the team is now? And whatever happened to that back from S.C.? The udfa. Can't think of his name. Tavin or sumn??

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Never mind. I see he's with the g men. Tavien Feaster

Late round flier on Chris Thompson in ppr leagues.
Other than that Chark and Lambo the only Jag players with fantasy value...

Thanks. Was thinking Armstead had some value now, but it prolly will be Thompson as the starter and higher percentage toucher of the ball.

(08-31-2020, 08:44 PM)fredalwaysajag Wrote: [ -> ]

(08-31-2020, 04:09 PM)Kane Wrote: [ -> ]Late round flier on Chris Thompson in ppr leagues.
Other than that Chark and Lambo the only Jag players with fantasy value...

Thanks. Was thinking Armstead had some value now, but it prolly will be Thompson as the starter and higher percentage toucher of the ball.

The guys on 1010xl today were super high on James Robinson and think he has a shot at the starting job.  I didnt realize how dominant dude was in college.  Maybe Doug really did feel like LF wasn't a top 3 back on the team

(08-31-2020, 04:30 PM)Predator Wrote: [ -> ]They reportedly tried to trade him and got no offers.

If other backs are performing better in this offense, what's the point in keeping the highest paid back on the roster if he will only have limited use?

His salary will give us that much more ammo to use next off season to aggressively fill roster holes.

This. There's a lot of hand wringing over this move. From an outsider perspective, yes, it was a wasted top 10 pick. That said, Fournette was clearly a Coughlin draft pick. This was a strong move by Dave. He should have done this a year earlier with Bortles. Admitting one's mistakes and promptly moving on is a sign of a good GM and a good man.

I would have liked to have had a preseason to see ozigbo and robinson. Then maybe we could understand this a bit more.