Just because democrats cheapened the impeachment process, while subsequently undermining their own credibility, doesn't mean Republicans need to.
Mikesez's justifications for impeachment listed above are hyperbolic, but prodding for reaction is all he has. However, the basic premise of his argument is correct. Impeaching presidents simply for ineptness would mean every single president since Washington would be eligible. Biden is not smart and he's surrounded himself with people who are more concerned with how people identify themselves than actual governing. Stupid and incompetent does not rise to the level of high crimes and misdemeanors.
Let's not perpetuate emotive childish democrat irrationality. If Republicans believe they are fundamentally better for the country, why would they copy the idiotic antics of the opposing party?
(08-28-2021, 11:31 AM)Ronster Wrote: [ -> ] (08-28-2021, 11:07 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]I didn't say that.
Do you think Joe should be impeached for this? What kind of precedent would that set?
THEY IMPEACHED TRUMP OVER A PHONE CALL!!
I didn't hear you defend him.. get out of here with your partisan hack job bs.
A phone call where he asked for Ukraine to announce a prosecution of either Joe or Hunter Biden.
If there was probable cause of wrongdoing, why didn't Trump's own DoJ announce an investigation into it?
(08-28-2021, 11:49 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (08-28-2021, 11:31 AM)Ronster Wrote: [ -> ]THEY IMPEACHED TRUMP OVER A PHONE CALL!!
I didn't hear you defend him.. get out of here with your partisan hack job bs.
A phone call where he asked for Ukraine to announce a prosecution of either Joe or Hunter Biden.
If there was probable cause of wrongdoing, why didn't Trump's own DoJ announce an investigation into it?
See? none of that happened, as was proven. But Americans WERE KILLED because of Biden and his administration, that is a fact.
(08-28-2021, 11:43 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]Just because democrats cheapened the impeachment process, while subsequently undermining their own credibility, doesn't mean Republicans need to.
Mikesez's justifications for impeachment listed above are hyperbolic, but prodding for reaction is all he has. However, the basic premise of his argument is correct. Impeaching presidents simply for ineptness would mean every single president since Washington would be eligible. Biden is not smart and he's surrounded himself with people who are more concerned with how people identify themselves than actual governing. Stupid and incompetent does not rise to the level of high crimes and misdemeanors.
Let's not perpetuate emotive childish democrat irrationality. If Republicans believe they are fundamentally better for the country, why would they copy the idiotic antics of the opposing party?
I said the same thing a few posts earlier. I feel the same way, but I won't remain silent about the left's double standards. Mikesez is actively supporting Trump's impeachment while simultaneously calling for others to be reasonable about Biden's actions. It would be one thing if it was just his opinion and he was an outlier, but he isn't. He speaks what the left tells him to think. I can't stand this kind of hypocrisy. This is why we end up with people on the right who are beginning to lean into their emotions.
I believe in an eye for an eye.. Impeach the [BLEEP] out of him.. Then go after Kamala..
(08-28-2021, 11:56 AM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ] (08-28-2021, 11:43 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]Just because democrats cheapened the impeachment process, while subsequently undermining their own credibility, doesn't mean Republicans need to.
Mikesez's justifications for impeachment listed above are hyperbolic, but prodding for reaction is all he has. However, the basic premise of his argument is correct. Impeaching presidents simply for ineptness would mean every single president since Washington would be eligible. Biden is not smart and he's surrounded himself with people who are more concerned with how people identify themselves than actual governing. Stupid and incompetent does not rise to the level of high crimes and misdemeanors.
Let's not perpetuate emotive childish democrat irrationality. If Republicans believe they are fundamentally better for the country, why would they copy the idiotic antics of the opposing party?
I said the same thing a few posts earlier. I feel the same way, but I won't remain silent about the left's double standards. Mikesez is actively supporting Trump's impeachment while simultaneously calling for others to be reasonable about Biden's actions. It would be one thing if it was just his opinion and he was an outlier, but he isn't. He speaks what the left tells him to think. I can't stand this kind of hypocrisy. This is why we end up with people on the right who are beginning to lean into their emotions.
Agreed. Quid pro quo is destructive and diversionary. The right needs to check themselves. This won't be Biden's first major blunder. He's doing more for the Republican cause than any misguided impeachment posturing.
(08-28-2021, 11:59 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]I believe in an eye for an eye.. Impeach the [BLEEP] out of him.. Then go after Kamala..
By then, Trump will be speaker of the house and our next president.
GOP needs to play dirty like the dems. That is their main issue.
(08-28-2021, 12:09 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ] (08-28-2021, 11:59 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]I believe in an eye for an eye.. Impeach the [BLEEP] out of him.. Then go after Kamala..
By then, Trump will be speaker of the house and our next president.
GOP needs to play dirty like the dems. That is their main issue.
I'll take it..
I'm tired of this 'turn the other cheek [BLEEP]'.. You can't lead by example when democrats are too stupid to follow.. [BLEEP] em all..
(08-28-2021, 11:43 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]Just because democrats cheapened the impeachment process, while subsequently undermining their own credibility, doesn't mean Republicans need to.
Mikesez's justifications for impeachment listed above are hyperbolic, but prodding for reaction is all he has. However, the basic premise of his argument is correct. Impeaching presidents simply for ineptness would mean every single president since Washington would be eligible. Biden is not smart and he's surrounded himself with people who are more concerned with how people identify themselves than actual governing. Stupid and incompetent does not rise to the level of high crimes and misdemeanors.
Let's not perpetuate emotive childish democrat irrationality. If Republicans believe they are fundamentally better for the country, why would they copy the idiotic antics of the opposing party?
I’m definitely not calling for impeachment, Harris would be just as bad, if not worse! I’m just laughing at the tap dancing that’s going on for why it shouldn’t be used now.
(08-28-2021, 12:02 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ] (08-28-2021, 11:56 AM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]I said the same thing a few posts earlier. I feel the same way, but I won't remain silent about the left's double standards. Mikesez is actively supporting Trump's impeachment while simultaneously calling for others to be reasonable about Biden's actions. It would be one thing if it was just his opinion and he was an outlier, but he isn't. He speaks what the left tells him to think. I can't stand this kind of hypocrisy. This is why we end up with people on the right who are beginning to lean into their emotions.
Agreed. Quid pro quo is destructive and diversionary. The right needs to check themselves. This won't be Biden's first major blunder. He's doing more for the Republican cause than any misguided impeachment posturing.
The right can't continue to check themselves with out a redirect from the left. I think the sentiment on the right is that the left is allowed to have a double standard, which gives them a leg up in almost every way. Why should the right be principled if the left won't? We have to walk that line between holding ourselves to a standard while demanding the left do the same. If not, we may as well just duke it out. The erosions of the standards is my biggest fear. I think it's more likely to become entrenched if it's a slow, evolving process.
(08-28-2021, 11:56 AM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ] (08-28-2021, 11:43 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]Just because democrats cheapened the impeachment process, while subsequently undermining their own credibility, doesn't mean Republicans need to.
Mikesez's justifications for impeachment listed above are hyperbolic, but prodding for reaction is all he has. However, the basic premise of his argument is correct. Impeaching presidents simply for ineptness would mean every single president since Washington would be eligible. Biden is not smart and he's surrounded himself with people who are more concerned with how people identify themselves than actual governing. Stupid and incompetent does not rise to the level of high crimes and misdemeanors.
Let's not perpetuate emotive childish democrat irrationality. If Republicans believe they are fundamentally better for the country, why would they copy the idiotic antics of the opposing party?
I said the same thing a few posts earlier. I feel the same way, but I won't remain silent about the left's double standards. Mikesez is actively supporting Trump's impeachment while simultaneously calling for others to be reasonable about Biden's actions. It would be one thing if it was just his opinion and he was an outlier, but he isn't. He speaks what the left tells him to think. I can't stand this kind of hypocrisy. This is why we end up with people on the right who are beginning to lean into their emotions.
Trump was impeached twice for two very different incidents.
We had a lot of back and forth about the first one, a lot of you very unreasonably thought there was probable cause to investigate a Biden, even though Jeff Sessions and Bill Barr didn't think so.
We didn't discuss the second impeachment as much.
How do you justify a President inciting a riot against Congress?
Also I take offense at you guys saying I only think what I'm told to think. Just because I reach a similar conclusion doesn't mean I didn't think for myself. I could accuse you of the same thing with your similar conclusions.
(08-28-2021, 12:31 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (08-28-2021, 11:56 AM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]I said the same thing a few posts earlier. I feel the same way, but I won't remain silent about the left's double standards. Mikesez is actively supporting Trump's impeachment while simultaneously calling for others to be reasonable about Biden's actions. It would be one thing if it was just his opinion and he was an outlier, but he isn't. He speaks what the left tells him to think. I can't stand this kind of hypocrisy. This is why we end up with people on the right who are beginning to lean into their emotions.
Trump was impeached twice for two very different incidents.
We had a lot of back and forth about the first one, a lot of you very unreasonably thought there was probable cause to investigate a Biden, even though Jeff Sessions and Bill Barr didn't think so.
We didn't discuss the second impeachment as much.
How do you justify a President inciting a riot against Congress?
Also I take offense at you guys saying I only think what I'm told to think. Just because I reach a similar conclusion doesn't mean I didn't think for myself. I could accuse you of the same thing with your similar conclusions.
Good Grief... Trump was impeached because he pissed off the ruling class, nothing more. And he didn't incite squat, if he had, believe me they would have him in prison by now.
(08-28-2021, 12:19 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ] (08-28-2021, 12:02 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]Agreed. Quid pro quo is destructive and diversionary. The right needs to check themselves. This won't be Biden's first major blunder. He's doing more for the Republican cause than any misguided impeachment posturing.
The right can't continue to check themselves with out a redirect from the left. I think the sentiment on the right is that the left is allowed to have a double standard, which gives them a leg up in almost every way. Why should the right be principled if the left won't? We have to walk that line between holding ourselves to a standard while demanding the left do the same. If not, we may as well just duke it out. The erosions of the standards is my biggest fear. I think it's more likely to become entrenched if it's a slow, evolving process.
Popular belief evolves as well. Even though it can be arduous and disheartening at times, sticking to the high ground is always the best policy and the one which pays off in the end. For example, look at the MSM. While they are part and parcel of the left, their credibility continues to wane. Biden and company, along with their suffering PR wing (MSM) are demonstrating exactly why corrupted standards are only good for temporary gain. To wit: Defund the Police advocates calling 911 for help. People may rail against the system, but they always flock to abiding standards.
(08-28-2021, 12:40 PM)Ronster Wrote: [ -> ] (08-28-2021, 12:31 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]Trump was impeached twice for two very different incidents.
We had a lot of back and forth about the first one, a lot of you very unreasonably thought there was probable cause to investigate a Biden, even though Jeff Sessions and Bill Barr didn't think so.
We didn't discuss the second impeachment as much.
How do you justify a President inciting a riot against Congress?
Also I take offense at you guys saying I only think what I'm told to think. Just because I reach a similar conclusion doesn't mean I didn't think for myself. I could accuse you of the same thing with your similar conclusions.
Good Grief... Trump was impeached because he pissed off the ruling class, nothing more. And he didn't incite squat, if he had, believe me they would have him in prison by now.
Of course he pissed off the ruling class. No one gets impeached unless they piss off the ruling class. The question is, was the ruling class justified to be pissed off? And the answer is of course yes, because Trump was violating the constitution and trying to be ruler for life.
(08-28-2021, 09:12 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]Does anyone believe there was actually a drone strike of an ISIS-K planner? Sounds made up. We had the intelligence to find this guy with a drone but not the intelligence to realize what was going to happen at the airport?
Maybe I will be proved wrong but let's see.
(08-28-2021, 11:42 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]Anyone know the name of this ISIS planner?
Supposedly he had nothing to do with this, they just knew where he was so they took some action.
They may be trying to start a war again. If we officially go to war, Biden is safe and can't be removed. Not sure on the 25th during war time but not much can be done during war time.
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(08-28-2021, 02:21 PM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ] (08-28-2021, 09:12 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]Does anyone believe there was actually a drone strike of an ISIS-K planner? Sounds made up. We had the intelligence to find this guy with a drone but not the intelligence to realize what was going to happen at the airport?
Maybe I will be proved wrong but let's see.
(08-28-2021, 11:42 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]Anyone know the name of this ISIS planner?
Supposedly he had nothing to do with this, they just knew where he was so they took some action.
They may be trying to start a war again. If we officially go to war, Biden is safe and can't be removed. Not sure on the 25th during war time but not much can be done during war time.
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I find it odd they haven't released the names of the 2 terrorists they killed. I don't believe this even happened and is the administration trying to save some face for the killing of 13 military members.
(08-27-2021, 08:36 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]Remember these names!
Heroes of our military who made the ultimate sacrifice
Maxton Soviak, 22
Kareem Nikoui, 20
David Lee Espinoza, 20
Rylee McCollum, 20
Jared Schmitz, 20
Hunter Lopez, 22
Daegan Page, 23
Ryan Knauss, 23
Darin Taylor Hoover Jr., 31
& 4 whose names we’ll learn
This is a post I can get behind. It’s sad that some hoodrat with a mile long rap sheet gets a boulevard but these brave men’s families get a folded up flag?
I know who I voted for
Our heroes were returned to American soil and Dover AFB today.
Nobody from the Biden White House attended.
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