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Send bb5 to another team and he's a pro bowler. Gus is killing the development of out qb.

TJ Yeldon is average.  He hasn't forgotten how to run, but he isn't explosive, yet we continue to surround the offense around him as if he is.  We are out thinking what works.  Throw the ball to open up the run.  Not the other way around.

Quote:Beachum's hands moving thankfully.

 


Word is from the attendees that one of his working middle fingers was pointed at Gus as he was driven out of the stadium

Quote:no, he hasn't.

 

throwing to Yeldon for 1 yard gains and bubble screens may make his completion percentage look better, but he is still as inaccurate as he ever was.

 

look no further than two weeks in a row - throwing the pick on a crossing pattern to Lee... both times thrown behind Lee.  He's costing us games.  He's not the ONLY reason we're losing, but he's as good of a choice as anybody else.

You focus on two plays with Lee.  Perhaps the Yeldon option was the only one - given that our receivers can't create separation.

Until Bortles has the autonomy to go to the line of scrimmage and audible out of a run play were there are 9 men in the box, we will see more of the same. Now who that falls on is a different conversation. I still believe Blake has the ability to be top 5 in this league.

Quote:Send bb5 to another team and he's a pro bowler. Gus is killing the development of out qb.

 

I don't think it's that simple. Maybe the right QB coach could help him faster, but Bortles has some pretty deep-rooted issues and Olson is respected around the league as a quality QB developer. 

Here's the thing.  Allen Robinson is not known as a burner or creating separation, but you throw it to him where he can get it.  We did not do that today.  Watch ARob's highlights last year.  You would think that was over a 3 year period.  He is a baller, but you have to give him a chance.

Quote:I don't think it's that simple. Maybe the right QB coach could help him faster, but Bortles has some pretty deep-rooted issues and Olson is respected around the league as a quality QB developer. 

 

The mechanics/throwing motion, and ball placement is concerning, couple that with the fact that he clearly struggles reading defenses and it causes a lot of concern

Quote:Here's the thing.  Allen Robinson is not known as a burner or creating separation, but you throw it to him where he can get it.  We did not do that today.  Watch ARob's highlights last year.  You would think that was over a 3 year period.  He is a baller, but you have to give him a chance.

ARob has struggled against some of the top corners who can man cover in the past and Verrett was all over him today. I'm not worried, I don't think he'll ever be the best WR in the league just because he isn't all that fast but he's sitll a very good WR.

Quote:TJ Yeldon is average.  He hasn't forgotten how to run, but he isn't explosive, yet we continue to surround the offense around him as if he is.  We are out thinking what works.  Throw the ball to open up the run.  Not the other way around.

 

Worse than that he's a tentative runner.

 

Someone needs to tell him that stopping after you catch a swing pass is a really bad idea. Put your foot in the ground, turn it upfield and in or upfield and toward the sideline, but be decisive and make a move for positive yardage.

Quote:Worse than that he's a tentative runner.

 

Someone needs to tell him that stopping after you catch a swing pass is a really bad idea. Put your foot in the ground, turn it upfield and in or upfield and toward the sideline, but be decisive and make a move for positive yardage.

I noticed him stopping a lot this season when catching a pass in the backfield. I like Yeldon but he doesn't seem to have made any progress at all so far this year which is worrying.

Quote:I don't think it's that simple. Maybe the right QB coach could help him faster, but Bortles has some pretty deep-rooted issues and Olson is respected around the league as a quality QB developer. 

 

Bortles made a few errant throws with one really costing us on a stupid throw to Rashad Greene.  Honestly though, that seemed to be his first read as he was locked on to him.  Rashad Greene should never be Bortles first read on any deep pass.  He was covered by 3 people and isn't a leaper nor deep inside pass Greene's strength, but that play should have never been called.

Quote:I don't think it's that simple. Maybe the right QB coach could help him faster, but Bortles has some pretty deep-rooted issues and Olson is respected around the league as a quality QB developer. 

Meh. The first interception was thrown behind Lee, but just like last week, it was catchable. Lee had the ball in his hands. Second INT - bad throw...underthrown.   Give Blake a running game, a line that can block and doesn't commit penalties that put Blake in a 1st and 20 situation, and let's see what he can do.

Quote:ARob has struggled against some of the top corners who can man cover in the past and Verrett was all over him today. I'm not worried, I don't think he'll ever be the best WR in the league just because he isn't all that fast but he's sitll a very good WR.

 

Yes, but when Bortles has given him a chance, ARob has stepped up even against good DB's.  He has been covered by 2 or 3 guys and made the catch look easy.  You have to throw it up because that is what ARob does best.

Quote:Meh. The first interception was thrown behind Lee, but just like last week, it was catchable. Lee had the ball in his hands. Second INT - bad throw...underthrown.   Give Blake a running game, a line that can block and doesn't commit penalties that put Blake in a 1st and 20 situation, and let's see what he can do.

 

I'd also like to see the team do more throwing on first and second downs early in games instead of putting Bortles into 2nd and 13's and 3rd and 15 situations because of runs for losses against stacked first and second down fronts.

We have absolutely no running game. What are our RBs averaging a game, like 30-40 yards a game? That's terrible, Borltes is missing some Ivory.

Quote:Bortles made a few errant throws with one really costing us on a stupid throw to Rashad Greene.  Honestly though, that seemed to be his first read as he was locked on to him.  Rashad Greene should never be Bortles first read on any deep pass.  He was covered by 3 people and isn't a leaper nor deep inside pass Greene's strength, but that play should have never been called.

I think he made a lot more than a few errant throws. Even a number of his completions were poorly placed, but I'm not in the right frame of mind to complain about a completion at this point. 

 

He missed some wide open guys today. Left two easy TDs out there by my count.  The early pick throwing BEHIND Lee again was also grievous. 

I mean - how many times must he have seen that play on film this week from the GB game?  --  and he did it again. 

Quote:We have absolutely no running game. What are our RBs averaging a game, like 30-40 yards a game? That's terrible, Borltes is missing some Ivory.

Bortles was only one yard rushing behind Yeldon today.

Mechanics still bother me. Doesn't help when Olson is calling plays that require a quick release

Quote:I don't think it's that simple. Maybe the right QB coach could help him faster, but Bortles has some pretty deep-rooted issues and Olson is respected around the league as a quality QB developer.

Yes, I'm being overly simplistic. But I think there is a legitimate concern that the way Olsen is handling bb5 is troublesome. And I wonder why we are running the offensive plays and formations we are at this point.


I don't recall 1 quick screen last year. Now we're running that play multiple times a game the last 2 weeks.


Same with the 3 wr bunch formation. I don't remember us running that formation often last year. Now it seems that is our base offensive formation. Am I wrong?


Lastly, bb5's accuracy and command of the offense hasn't progressed as one would like to see from a 3rd year qb. Its just shocking to see. This doesn't look like the offense from last year. You gotta wonder how much Olsen is being held back by the head coach, don't you?