(04-28-2022, 11:55 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ] (04-28-2022, 11:48 AM)RicoTx Wrote: [ -> ]I'm just disappointed that I have bowling tonight and I won't be here to see the live meltdown.
Lol
I’ll be at a rehearsal dinner so I won’t be on here too. But I will certainly come read the meltdowns tomorrow morning as I’m hungover.
...do you really need to rehearse dinner? I'm in my 40s and would consider myself a pro at this point.
(04-28-2022, 01:07 AM)Charlie Sheen Wrote: [ -> ] (04-28-2022, 01:05 AM)Mandeezee Wrote: [ -> ]If Walker is the pick I'll say this: Watching the little film they have of Hutch and him, something stands out. Hutch isn't big or very strong. I saw him collide with a QB and both went down. Hutch looks thin.
I saw Walker, and that's a big, strong guy. He was moving OL with sheer size. Just waving his arms. He's a risk, but all the Jags seem to want him. And I assume they know football.
How could you possibly think that when looking at our draft history?
Becuase it's not the same people drafting?
Travon around -450 to be taken #1 right now.
(04-28-2022, 12:52 PM)VillagerChris Wrote: [ -> ] (04-28-2022, 01:07 AM)Charlie Sheen Wrote: [ -> ]How could you possibly think that when looking at our draft history?
Because it's not the same people drafting?
This is accurate.
Our history of early picks prior to 2021 is of little to no importance right now.
Trevor Lawrence, Etienne, Tyson Campbell, Andre Cisco, and Walker Little are our best indicators of the current regime's early-round drafting and even that is not a wise barometer to gather data from - as it happened with input from a different HC.
Who's got the inside scoop? Its vegas
(04-28-2022, 12:38 PM)Mikey Wrote: [ -> ] (04-28-2022, 11:55 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]Lol
I’ll be at a rehearsal dinner so I won’t be on here too. But I will certainly come read the meltdowns tomorrow morning as I’m hungover.
...do you really need to rehearse dinner? I'm in my 40s and would consider myself a pro at this point.
Let them know that almost 50% of marriages end in divorce.
(04-28-2022, 01:01 PM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: [ -> ] (04-28-2022, 12:38 PM)Mikey Wrote: [ -> ]...do you really need to rehearse dinner? I'm in my 40s and would consider myself a pro at this point.
Let them know that almost 50% of marriages end in divorce.
“Hey. Sister in law. Hurricane wants you to know that 50% of marriages ends in divorce. So can I get you another red wine?”
Going to be interesting soon. Hoping like hell news breaks about a potential trade being struck between Jacksonville and whomever but it seems unlikely.
My guess would be:
Ikem Ekwonu
Aidan Hutchinson
Travon Walker
In that order.
They have T. Campbell on a rookie deal and he got pretty good, but are they happy with S. Griffin? Does Sauce make sense? He maybe the only superstar besides maybe Williams.
(04-28-2022, 12:58 PM)Jag88 Wrote: [ -> ]Who's got the inside scoop? Its vegas
Vegas doesn't predict. They just balance out the odds so they don't lose money. The bettors are making the prediction.
(04-28-2022, 02:36 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ] (04-28-2022, 12:58 PM)Jag88 Wrote: [ -> ]Who's got the inside scoop? Its vegas
Vegas doesn't predict. They just balance out the odds so they don't lose money. The bettors are making the prediction.
That doesn't make sense to me. Based on that they would always be reacting, yet the business for bookies is always profitable. They have to be predicting things to some extent.
(04-28-2022, 02:40 PM)rpr52121 Wrote: [ -> ] (04-28-2022, 02:36 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]Vegas doesn't predict. They just balance out the odds so they don't lose money. The bettors are making the prediction.
That doesn't make sense to me. Based on that they would always be reacting, yet the business for bookies is always profitable. They have to be predicting things to some extent.
Why do you think the bookie business is always profitable? They are always changing the odds to split the bets, so they cannot lose. Too much money comes in on one side, so they change the odds to attract money to the other side. They're not predicting the future. They're just ensuring they get their cut and whichever side wins, they don't take a bath, because they have split the bets. Why do you think the odds move when big money comes in on one side? They have to restore the balance.
Really if you want to say they are predicting something, what they are predicting is how people are going to bet. They're not trying to predict what's actually going to happen, other than that.
That's why it's totally bogus to say the oddsmakers in Vegas think Walker will be our pick.
The bettors are saying Walker will be our pick. Not the oddsmakers.
Best case somebody gets antsy and we trade out of 1
(04-28-2022, 02:46 PM)BamboozledAgain Wrote: [ -> ]Best case somebody gets antsy and we trade out of 1
I have taken a position, that might sound extreme, that I would trade down as far as 10 for a late 2nd round pick or better. That's all it would take for me, because I have no faith that the guys being talked about at 1 are much better than the guys being talked about down around 10. Seriously, would you take one of those top 4 guys, or would you take Jameson Williams plus a 2nd round pick? I'd take Williams and the pick. That's just an example.
(04-28-2022, 02:49 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ] (04-28-2022, 02:46 PM)BamboozledAgain Wrote: [ -> ]Best case somebody gets antsy and we trade out of 1
I have taken a position, that might sound extreme, that I would trade down as far as 10 for a late 2nd round pick or better. That's all it would take for me, because I have no faith that the guys being talked about at 1 are much better than the guys being talked about down around 10. Seriously, would you take one of those top 4 guys, or would you take Jameson Williams plus a 2nd round pick? I'd take Williams and the pick. That's just an example.
I don't think Jameson Williams is there at 10.
(04-28-2022, 02:49 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ] (04-28-2022, 02:46 PM)BamboozledAgain Wrote: [ -> ]Best case somebody gets antsy and we trade out of 1
I have taken a position, that might sound extreme, that I would trade down as far as 10 for a late 2nd round pick or better. That's all it would take for me, because I have no faith that the guys being talked about at 1 are much better than the guys being talked about down around 10. Seriously, would you take one of those top 4 guys, or would you take Jameson Williams plus a 2nd round pick? I'd take Williams and the pick. That's just an example.
I am honestly in the same exact position at this point. I'll take Jameson Williams and a 2nd RD pick at this point and not even think twice about it.
I hope the Giants or Eagles feel compelled to come up though.
(04-28-2022, 02:46 PM)BamboozledAgain Wrote: [ -> ]Best case somebody gets antsy and we trade out of 1
I wish ^this were true, but I just don't see anyone so desirable for someone to trade up to 1. I guess you are right that it is the best case.
(04-28-2022, 02:49 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ] (04-28-2022, 02:46 PM)BamboozledAgain Wrote: [ -> ]Best case somebody gets antsy and we trade out of 1
I have taken a position, that might sound extreme, that I would trade down as far as 10 for a late 2nd round pick or better. That's all it would take for me, because I have no faith that the guys being talked about at 1 are much better than the guys being talked about down around 10. Seriously, would you take one of those top 4 guys, or would you take Jameson Williams plus a 2nd round pick? I'd take Williams and the pick. That's just an example.
If I couldn't find a trade partner, I'd take Jameson Williams at #1 and feel really good about it.
(04-28-2022, 03:21 AM)BamboozledAgain Wrote: [ -> ] (04-28-2022, 02:18 AM)Charlie Sheen Wrote: [ -> ]People aren't putting him at #1 because he's the best player in the draft. They are putting him at #1 because it's the Jags and the Jags do stupid things.
OK well why even root for the team. @ Charlie Sheen
Because I'm not a bandwagon fan? But just because I'm a fan doesn't mean that I'm going to think the moves they have done have been good. Because they haven't.