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Saturday at 8:15...

Gonna be wild here in Jacksonville. All I know is that Henry has had our number. If we can contain him, get out to an early lead, then we win.

But if the D can't stop Henry, it's gonna be a long night. I'm saying obvious things.

I feel like this Defensive Front 7 is better than we actually give them credit for. Whether we go 3-4 or modified, the the edge has to contain Henry and bring him back into the middle where we can go low on him and trip him up. This is Mike Caldwell's opus. He needs to make sure our LBs and D-Line are working together to suppress Henry.

Henry wins or loses this game. Same as it ever was.
(01-02-2023, 02:05 PM)carp8dm Wrote: [ -> ]Saturday at 8:15...

Gonna be wild here in Jacksonville.  All I know is that Henry has had our number.  If we can contain him, get out to an early lead, then we win.

But if the D can't stop Henry, it's gonna be a long night.  I'm saying obvious things.

I feel like this Defensive Front 7 is better than we actually give them credit for.  Whether we go 3-4 or modified, the the edge has to contain Henry and bring him back into the middle where we can go low on him and trip him up.  This is Mike Caldwell's opus.  He needs to make sure our LBs and D-Line are working together to suppress Henry. 

Henry wins or loses this game.  Same as it ever was.


I don't see it like this. ^

The tacks passing attack is nearly non-existent right now. 
All Jags have to do is limit Henry like they did in the first game.  

I don't think he "wins or loses this game."  
I think he'd probably have to have 250 APY and 3 TDs to "win this game"

He had 150+ and 2 TDs in the last match up and that wasn't enough for a win. 

One of their QBs is going to have to get hot for at least one half of the game for them to beat this current Jags squad. 
Odds are not in favor of that.
(01-02-2023, 12:30 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/BenVolin/status/1609...jBMksBSB3Q

Of the 2 teams that have done it in the past, wouldn't one of them be our beloved 1996 Jaguars?

When this season is finished, I would love for the Jaguars to be 2 of the 3.
(01-02-2023, 02:35 PM)TheDuke007 Wrote: [ -> ]
(01-02-2023, 12:30 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/BenVolin/status/1609...jBMksBSB3Q

Of the 2 teams that have done it in the past, wouldn't one of them be our beloved 1996 Jaguars?

When this season is finished, I would love for the Jaguars to be 2 of the 3.

Not the 1996 Jaguars.  They were 3-6, but never 2-6.  

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_Jacks...n#Schedule
(01-02-2023, 11:29 AM)paksat Wrote: [ -> ]
(01-02-2023, 10:23 AM)Craigukjag Wrote: [ -> ]Sucks for the team it’s Saturday night rather than Sunday, but for an English fan having to watch the game at 1.30 in the morning Saturday is a life saver thought I was going to be going to work Monday morning on zero sleep.

I'm always shocked just how filled that stadium is when we go over there to england, those are some real fans out there.
A lot of the fans are nfl fans as opposed to jags fans, I’ve been to every jags game in the uk and it has improved I’d say there’s roughly 25-35000 jags fans at the games these days
Posted on other thread but Dobbs is starting Saturday
(01-02-2023, 02:17 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]
(01-02-2023, 02:05 PM)carp8dm Wrote: [ -> ]Saturday at 8:15...

Gonna be wild here in Jacksonville.  All I know is that Henry has had our number.  If we can contain him, get out to an early lead, then we win.

But if the D can't stop Henry, it's gonna be a long night.  I'm saying obvious things.

I feel like this Defensive Front 7 is better than we actually give them credit for.  Whether we go 3-4 or modified, the the edge has to contain Henry and bring him back into the middle where we can go low on him and trip him up.  This is Mike Caldwell's opus.  He needs to make sure our LBs and D-Line are working together to suppress Henry. 

Henry wins or loses this game.  Same as it ever was.


I don't see it like this. ^

The tacks passing attack is nearly non-existent right now. 
All Jags have to do is limit Henry like they did in the first game.  

I don't think he "wins or loses this game."  
I think he'd probably have to have 250 APY and 3 TDs to "win this game"

He had 150+ and 2 TDs in the last match up and that wasn't enough for a win. 

One of their QBs is going to have to get hot for at least one half of the game for them to beat this current Jags squad. 
Odds are not in favor of that.

Maybe you should read my entire statement...  LOL

Henry is the key to whether we win or not. And you agreed with that. Yet you just wanted to argue against me for no reason. Tell me which QB is going to beat us? It's the running game that Tennessee always kills us.

I appreciate a contrarian. But, come one. There's only one way we lose on Saturday night... And that's by Henry running on us. Same as it ever was
(01-02-2023, 02:50 PM)Craigukjag Wrote: [ -> ]
(01-02-2023, 11:29 AM)paksat Wrote: [ -> ]I'm always shocked just how filled that stadium is when we go over there to england, those are some real fans out there.
A lot of the fans are nfl fans as opposed to jags fans, I’ve been to every jags game in the uk and it has improved I’d say there’s roughly 25-35000 jags fans at the games these days

Yeah. If you go to a game in London you will literally see every NFL jersey being worn there.
(01-02-2023, 02:55 PM)carp8dm Wrote: [ -> ]
(01-02-2023, 02:17 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]I don't see it like this. ^

The tacks passing attack is nearly non-existent right now. 
All Jags have to do is limit Henry like they did in the first game.  

I don't think he "wins or loses this game."  
I think he'd probably have to have 250 APY and 3 TDs to "win this game"

He had 150+ and 2 TDs in the last match up and that wasn't enough for a win. 

One of their QBs is going to have to get hot for at least one half of the game for them to beat this current Jags squad. 
Odds are not in favor of that.

Maybe you should read my entire statement...  LOL


Let me be clear:

Quote:All I know is that Henry has had our number. 
Past regimes and teams don't matter this year. He has played only one game vs this unit. 


Quote:Henry wins or loses this game.  Same as it ever was.
... if the D can't stop Henry, it's gonna be a long night. 

No, not necessarily. 
Henry had a very productive game vs the Jags this season and his team still lost. 
Jags merely have to replicate that and keep Dobbs from getting hot through the air, which would appear do-able as well. 
S-A-T-U-R-D-A-Y...NIGHT!

Kick those Tacks to the curb and then kick them some more. Humiliate them. Grind them into the ground with our heels. Stomp them into the ground until there is nothing left but a tattered Tacks uni. 40 - 0 with less than 100 yds total offense sounds about right. Blow them back to the Oiler days, make them wish that they had never become an NFL football franchise. Show them that their window has slammed shut, their time is over and that there is a new King of the AFC South!!!
5 days rest should not be an issue since the Jags could have had 13 days rest if they really wanted to go that route.
(01-02-2023, 02:05 PM)carp8dm Wrote: [ -> ]Saturday at 8:15...

Gonna be wild here in Jacksonville. All I know is that Henry has had our number. If we can contain him, get out to an early lead, then we win.

But if the D can't stop Henry, it's gonna be a long night. I'm saying obvious things.

I feel like this Defensive Front 7 is better than we actually give them credit for. Whether we go 3-4 or modified, the the edge has to contain Henry and bring him back into the middle where we can go low on him and trip him up. This is Mike Caldwell's opus. He needs to make sure our LBs and D-Line are working together to suppress Henry.

Henry wins or loses this game. Same as it ever was.
Walker needs to be inside at 3-tech with Key stacked on his side. I feel like this change gives us a better edge at containing and slowing down Henry.

Walker penetrates better playing 3-tech and Key is probably the best athlete from the edge in terms of working back to the football or chasing around the edge.

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(01-02-2023, 02:55 PM)carp8dm Wrote: [ -> ]
(01-02-2023, 02:17 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]I don't see it like this. ^

The tacks passing attack is nearly non-existent right now. 
All Jags have to do is limit Henry like they did in the first game.  

I don't think he "wins or loses this game."  
I think he'd probably have to have 250 APY and 3 TDs to "win this game"

He had 150+ and 2 TDs in the last match up and that wasn't enough for a win. 

One of their QBs is going to have to get hot for at least one half of the game for them to beat this current Jags squad. 
Odds are not in favor of that.

Maybe you should read my entire statement...  LOL

Henry is the key to whether we win or not.  And you agreed with that.  Yet you just wanted to argue against me for no reason.  Tell me which QB is going to beat us?  It's the running game that Tennessee always kills us.

I appreciate a contrarian.  But, come one.  There's only one way we lose on Saturday night...  And that's by Henry running on us.  Same as it ever was

Sorry. Didn't mean to be so prickly. 

Limiting Henry is job #1. We agree on that. 

No need for me to get so into the minutia beyond that.
(01-02-2023, 03:04 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]
(01-02-2023, 02:55 PM)carp8dm Wrote: [ -> ]Maybe you should read my entire statement...  LOL


Let me be clear:

Quote:All I know is that Henry has had our number. 
Past regimes and teams don't matter this year. He has played only one game vs this unit. 


Quote:Henry wins or loses this game.  Same as it ever was.
... if the D can't stop Henry, it's gonna be a long night. 

No, not necessarily. 
Henry had a very productive game vs the Jags this season and his team still lost. 
Jags merely have to replicate that and keep Dobbs from getting hot through the air, which would appear do-able as well. 
I am much more concerned about Henry than a guy who has had 1 unimpressive start his entire career.
(01-02-2023, 03:25 PM)Predator Wrote: [ -> ]
(01-02-2023, 03:04 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]Let me be clear:

Past regimes and teams don't matter this year. He has played only one game vs this unit. 



No, not necessarily. 
Henry had a very productive game vs the Jags this season and his team still lost. 
Jags merely have to replicate that and keep Dobbs from getting hot through the air, which would appear do-able as well. 
I am much more concerned about Henry than a guy who has had 1 unimpressive start his entire career.

I am too. 

Just pointing out that they are still beatable when Henry puts up above average numbers. 
I mean, if he played like he did against us the first go round in every game -  he'd finish the season with 2600 APY and 34 TDs.
Dobbs starting over Willis is more of a nod towards the current state of affairs there in the front office.

Robinson was fired for missing tremendously on the Brown trade and Burks selection.

Vrabel is potentially next. Dobbs getting the start doesn't mean he'll finish. Game comes down to stopping Henry and scoring relentlessly on offense.

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(01-02-2023, 03:29 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]
(01-02-2023, 03:25 PM)Predator Wrote: [ -> ]I am much more concerned about Henry than a guy who has had 1 unimpressive start his entire career.

I am too. 

Just pointing out that they are still beatable when Henry puts up above average numbers. 
I mean, if he played like he did against us the first go round in every game -  he'd finish the season with 2600 APY and 34 TDs.

Most of his yards came in the first quarter.  We pretty much shut him down after the first quarter.  As long as well play him like we did in quarters 2, 3, and 4 we should be good.

(01-02-2023, 03:14 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]
(01-02-2023, 02:05 PM)carp8dm Wrote: [ -> ]Saturday at 8:15...

Gonna be wild here in Jacksonville.  All I know is that Henry has had our number.  If we can contain him, get out to an early lead, then we win.

But if the D can't stop Henry, it's gonna be a long night.  I'm saying obvious things.

I feel like this Defensive Front 7 is better than we actually give them credit for.  Whether we go 3-4 or modified, the the edge has to contain Henry and bring him back into the middle where we can go low on him and trip him up.  This is Mike Caldwell's opus.  He needs to make sure our LBs and D-Line are working together to suppress Henry. 

Henry wins or loses this game.  Same as it ever was.
Walker needs to be inside at 3-tech with Key stacked on his side. I feel like this change gives us a better edge at containing and slowing down Henry.

Walker penetrates better playing 3-tech and Key is probably the best athlete from the edge in terms of working back to the football or chasing around the edge.

Sent from my SM-S906U using Tapatalk
On passing downs sure.  But in early and short yardage downs we need Hamilton and Fatukasi on the inside.  We those big boddies and Walker is very good at setting the edge
(01-02-2023, 04:25 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]
(01-02-2023, 03:29 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]I am too. 

Just pointing out that they are still beatable when Henry puts up above average numbers. 
I mean, if he played like he did against us the first go round in every game -  he'd finish the season with 2600 APY and 34 TDs.

Most of his yards came in the first quarter.  We pretty much shut him down after the first quarter.  As long as we play him like we did in quarters 2, 3, and 4 we should be good.

NYC: Well - he only had 6 touches the whole second half, LOL.
We were up 26-14 after starting the second half with a TD drive, so they had to pass to stay in it and we had the clear momentum. So it wasn't "how we played him" in the second half.  He barely played. 


(01-02-2023, 03:14 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]Walker needs to be inside at 3-tech with Key stacked on his side. I feel like this change gives us a better edge at containing and slowing down Henry.

Walker penetrates better playing 3-tech and Key is probably the best athlete from the edge in terms of working back to the football or chasing around the edge.

Sent from my SM-S906U using Tapatalk
On passing downs sure.  But in early and short yardage downs we need Hamilton and Fatukasi on the inside.  We those big boddies and Walker is very good at setting the edge

Yep

They have been using 4 down linemen more on short yardage/run looks and Walker at 4-3 end with in a 3 point stance is a good thing there.
Only threat they have is Henry unless Dobbs plays out of his [BLEEP] or we make him look better than what he actually is. I feel very confident for this one.
We beat this team already. In their own house. We're gonna do it again in our house.

I believe.
#itwasalwaysthejags
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