(07-31-2024, 11:07 AM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: [ -> ] (07-31-2024, 10:19 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]None of this matters. Everybody hates Kamala and people will ultimately vote with their struggling finances on the top of their mind.
REALITY --> 50% of the people hate Trump and the other 50% hates Kamala and people will ultimately vote for Trump or against Trump.
But those people will remember the Trump economy when that proverbial curtain closes behind them in the voting booth. Reasonable people vote with their wallets.
(07-31-2024, 11:13 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ] (07-31-2024, 11:07 AM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: [ -> ]REALITY --> 50% of the people hate Trump and the other 50% hates Kamala and people will ultimately vote for Trump or against Trump.
But those people will remember the Trump economy when that proverbial curtain closes behind them in the voting booth. Reasonable people vote with their wallets.
I may have heard it correctly on the background TV but there's $1.7 billion in student debt forgiveness so a bunch of people are experiencing less debt as a result.
Also, not everyone votes with their pocketbooks. Many people favor pro-choice, climate, and other topics over money. That said, anyone who is smart enough (or even lucky enough) can capitalize on either types of governing rule. If one let's the President dictate their financial success, they are not meant to be wealthy in the first place ....
(07-31-2024, 11:29 AM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: [ -> ] (07-31-2024, 11:13 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]But those people will remember the Trump economy when that proverbial curtain closes behind them in the voting booth. Reasonable people vote with their wallets.
I may have heard it correctly on the background TV but there's $1.7 billion in student debt forgiveness so a bunch of people are experiencing less debt as a result.
Also, not everyone votes with their pocketbooks. Many people favor pro-choice, climate, and other topics over money. That said, anyone who is smart enough (or even lucky enough) can capitalize on either types of governing rule. If one let's the President dictate their financial success, they are not meant to be wealthy in the first place ....
Congrats on a bunch of deadbeats experiencing less debt because biden ignored a SCOTUS ruling to buy their votes. Those losers were already voting dem anyway.
I said most reasonable people. Suburban housewives responsible for what has happened to this country doing fall into that category.
(07-31-2024, 11:56 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ] (07-31-2024, 11:29 AM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: [ -> ]I may have heard it correctly on the background TV but there's $1.7 billion in student debt forgiveness so a bunch of people are experiencing less debt as a result.
Also, not everyone votes with their pocketbooks. Many people favor pro-choice, climate, and other topics over money. That said, anyone who is smart enough (or even lucky enough) can capitalize on either types of governing rule. If one let's the President dictate their financial success, they are not meant to be wealthy in the first place ....
Congrats on a bunch of deadbeats experiencing less debt because biden ignored a SCOTUS ruling to buy their votes. Those losers were already voting dem anyway.
I said most reasonable people. Suburban housewives responsible for what has happened to this country doing fall into that category.
Those "deadbeats" are people who qualified for Bush's SLFP but were being screwed over by the loan serving companies. They earned their SLFP by working in non-profit and underserved areas for at least 10 years where they made an actual difference in the lives of the people they serve. Do you call those who take the GI Bill "deadbeats" as well? Because the programs are essentially the same.
(07-31-2024, 11:13 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ] (07-31-2024, 11:07 AM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: [ -> ]REALITY --> 50% of the people hate Trump and the other 50% hates Kamala and people will ultimately vote for Trump or against Trump.
But those people will remember the Trump economy when that proverbial curtain closes behind them in the voting booth. Reasonable people vote with their wallets.
I don't know... it sure seems like majority of people have tiktok brain. Its all about what you offer right now in the moment anymore.
(07-31-2024, 12:15 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (07-31-2024, 11:07 AM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: [ -> ]REALITY --> 50% of the people hate Trump and the other 85% hates Kamala and people will ultimately vote for Trump or against Trump.
FTFY.
Certainly 85% of this board...
(07-31-2024, 11:56 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ] (07-31-2024, 11:29 AM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: [ -> ]I may have heard it correctly on the background TV but there's $1.7 billion in student debt forgiveness so a bunch of people are experiencing less debt as a result.
Also, not everyone votes with their pocketbooks. Many people favor pro-choice, climate, and other topics over money. That said, anyone who is smart enough (or even lucky enough) can capitalize on either types of governing rule. If one let's the President dictate their financial success, they are not meant to be wealthy in the first place ....
Congrats on a bunch of deadbeats experiencing less debt because biden ignored a SCOTUS ruling to buy their votes. Those losers were already voting dem anyway.
I said most reasonable people. Suburban housewives responsible for what has happened to this country doing fall into that category.
The suburban housewives that live next to me play tennis at the PV Inn and Club and were awarded $1,200 Covid checks from Trump because they have $0 earnings (although their hubby's earn $500k+ annually).
How's that fair? Nothing is fair. Student debt relief SUCKS !! Covid Checks to rich people and those on welfare that didn't experience financial distress is not fair .... nothing is fair. That's why people just say [BLEEP] It and vote for or against a candidate and/or for or against other policies they prioritize.
(07-31-2024, 12:18 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (07-31-2024, 12:15 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]FTFY.
Certainly 85% of this board...
When they only thing one does is post on their board and watch Fox News, it sure does seem like 85% to them.
(07-31-2024, 12:08 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (07-31-2024, 11:56 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]Congrats on a bunch of deadbeats experiencing less debt because biden ignored a SCOTUS ruling to buy their votes. Those losers were already voting dem anyway.
I said most reasonable people. Suburban housewives responsible for what has happened to this country doing fall into that category.
Those "deadbeats" are people who qualified for Bush's SLFP but were being screwed over by the loan serving companies. They earned their SLFP by working in non-profit and underserved areas for at least 10 years where they made an actual difference in the lives of the people they serve. Do you call those who take the GI Bill "deadbeats" as well? Because the programs are essentially the same.
Do I consider people who sacrificed their lives for the country receiving a free education on the same level as the blue hair chick who got her liberal arts degrees paid for by me? No.
If you have a loan and don't repay it. You are a deadbeat.
(07-31-2024, 11:29 AM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: [ -> ] (07-31-2024, 11:13 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]But those people will remember the Trump economy when that proverbial curtain closes behind them in the voting booth. Reasonable people vote with their wallets.
I may have heard it correctly on the background TV but there's $1.7 billion in student debt forgiveness so a bunch of people are experiencing less debt as a result.
Also, not everyone votes with their pocketbooks. Many people favor pro-choice, climate, and other topics over money. That said, anyone who is smart enough (or even lucky enough) can capitalize on either types of governing rule. If one let's the President dictate their financial success, they are not meant to be wealthy in the first place ....
Can of worms here. Not everybody wants to live wealthy. Wealth can be measured in a variety of ways. Some of us maybe just want to live comfortably and maybe not paycheck-to-paycheck. Maybe some of us would like to save, say, $800 per month instead of $400 or $500 per month, because, they simply have things come up in life that require money. Car breaks down, a sick parent, sick child, or spouse.
[BLEEP] happens. However, your pocketbook's overall health can give you the means that you need to be less pro-choice as an individual, since, you know? Maybe you can afford a pack of jimmy's or your baby mama can afford birth control. Maybe the climate situation changes little by little, because, you know? Maybe my nice Honda gas powered lawnmower just went to [BLEEP] and I need that extra $200 to buy the shiny new EGO all battery powered one, doing my part there for climate change, no?
For me. It's always going to be about the following when I select a President:
1. My income and my future saving's. America worships the Dollar. Let's not [BLEEP] ourselves. Career politicians, lobbyism and corruption are all self evident here to begin with. When my income is healthy? So is my life in general. So is the economy, people have some spending money, it's good for everybody.
2. Global tensions. I hate the fact that our country imposed itself into this World Policeman role. Personally? Let the animals wipe themselves out. Stop giving away our tax dollars to bottomless pits riddled with ideologies that only seem to have a cyclical system of abuse and self assured destruction.
3. Freedom. Maintain our original rights and do not trespass upon standard laws. I don't care if you identify as a unicorn with a 12 inch pecker but somehow can claim you're a woman once a week every Saturday when it's convenient for you. I just want my guns. You can also abort your kid. Provided you can make a decision within three months. Full term abortion is just wrong. [BLEEP] or get off the pot quickly in that regard.
(07-31-2024, 12:36 PM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: [ -> ] (07-31-2024, 11:56 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]Congrats on a bunch of deadbeats experiencing less debt because biden ignored a SCOTUS ruling to buy their votes. Those losers were already voting dem anyway.
I said most reasonable people. Suburban housewives responsible for what has happened to this country doing fall into that category.
The suburban housewives that live next to me play tennis at the PV Inn and Club and were awarded $1,200 Covid checks from Trump because they have $0 earnings (although their hubby's earn $500k+ annually).
How's that fair? Nothing is fair. Student debt relief SUCKS !! Covid Checks to rich people and those on welfare that didn't experience financial distress is not fair .... nothing is fair. That's why people just say [BLEEP] It and vote for or against a candidate and/or for or against other policies they prioritize.
(07-31-2024, 12:18 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]Certainly 85% of this board...
When they only think one does is post on their board and watch Fox News, it sure does seem like 85% to them.
When you actually go out and talk to local democrats you know just how incredibly unpopular Cumala is. What's different is that Dems have no qualms about holding their nose and voting for her while so called Republicans like Mikesez will do anything they can to betray their nominal party so those Dems will love him. Then they'll tell you how principled they are to do so.
I really don't think democrats are "excited" about kamala (other than those on the far left like Mikesez). I think they are more excited that they got rid of Joe Biden. That's why she is fizzling out so fast.
(07-31-2024, 02:07 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: [ -> ]I really don't think democrats are "excited" about kamala (other than those on the far left like Mikesez). I think they are more excited that they got rid of Joe Biden. That's why she is fizzling out so fast.
What makes you think she is fizzling out? I don't see that. It looks to me like this race is a dead heat at this point.
(07-31-2024, 02:18 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ] (07-31-2024, 02:07 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: [ -> ]I really don't think democrats are "excited" about kamala (other than those on the far left like Mikesez). I think they are more excited that they got rid of Joe Biden. That's why she is fizzling out so fast.
What makes you think she is fizzling out? I don't see that. It looks to me like this race is a dead heat at this point.
Because Laura Ingram says she's fizzling out, so it must be correct, regardless of what the data states.
(07-31-2024, 02:18 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ] (07-31-2024, 02:07 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: [ -> ]I really don't think democrats are "excited" about kamala (other than those on the far left like Mikesez). I think they are more excited that they got rid of Joe Biden. That's why she is fizzling out so fast.
What makes you think she is fizzling out? I don't see that. It looks to me like this race is a dead heat at this point.
I think it's just one or two debates away from going either way.
Trump attempting to pander to the black community is backfiring live.
If he would pander to the largest demographic on the right openly?
He would increase his odds.
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(07-31-2024, 02:07 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: [ -> ]I really don't think democrats are "excited" about kamala (other than those on the far left like Mikesez). I think they are more excited that they got rid of Joe Biden. That's why she is fizzling out so fast.
You must enjoy being wrong. Does your wife know how naughty you can be?