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(09-22-2024, 08:01 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-22-2024, 06:26 PM)OG-JAGFAN Wrote: [ -> ]Tomato tamoto

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God you liberals have your priorities so messed up.

In your mind : Trump claims about the 2020 election >border >economy > crime > how world leaders see us > law and order > putting Americans first

If you can't vote and have your vote counted, you have no ability to peacefully influence how the government handles the border, economy, crime, how world leaders see us, law and order, or putting Americans first.  The ballot is a sine qua non, just like guns and free speech.

Which is why the Biden-crats stealing the 2020 election is the paramount event of the last 4 years.

(09-22-2024, 08:38 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-22-2024, 08:01 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]If you can't vote and have your vote counted, you have no ability to peacefully influence how the government handles the border, economy, crime, how world leaders see us, law and order, or putting Americans first.  The ballot is a sine qua non, just like guns and free speech.

Which is why the Biden-crats stealing the 2020 election is the paramount event of the last 4 years.

It sure would be if it had happened.
Man, if I had millions of people who would just believe whatever lie I came up with... I'd like to think I'd do better things with that power than just trying to stay in office for another 4 years...

(09-22-2024, 08:41 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-22-2024, 08:38 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Which is why the Biden-crats stealing the 2020 election is the paramount event of the last 4 years.

It sure would be if it had happened.
Man, if I had millions of people who would just believe whatever lie I came up with... I'd like to think I'd do better things with that power.

It's ok Pookie, you idiots not fighting that election fraud is why we are where we are. This [BLEEP] show we've had since 2021 is entirely your fault. I don't even blame the Dems, they're ridiculously terrible people with horrible politics, and what's happened to our country the last 3.5 years is because of what they do, but they are what they are. It's you spineless [BLEEP] who let them steal the election and do it to all of us are the real problem. Spineless weasels the lot of you.

(09-22-2024, 08:45 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-22-2024, 08:41 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]It sure would be if it had happened.
Man, if I had millions of people who would just believe whatever lie I came up with... I'd like to think I'd do better things with that power.

It's ok Pookie, you idiots not fighting that election fraud is why we are where we are. This [BLEEP] show we've had since 2021 is entirely your fault. I don't even blame the Dems, they're ridiculously terrible people with horrible politics, and what's happened to our country the last 3.5 years is because of what they do, but they are what they are. It's you spineless [BLEEP] who let them steal the election and do it to all of us are the real problem. Spineless weasels the lot of you.

You didn't fight it either.  I didn't fight it because I don't think it's real.  You didn't fight it because you're all talk.

(09-22-2024, 09:07 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-22-2024, 08:45 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]It's ok Pookie, you idiots not fighting that election fraud is why we are where we are. This [BLEEP] show we've had since 2021 is entirely your fault. I don't even blame the Dems, they're ridiculously terrible people with horrible politics, and what's happened to our country the last 3.5 years is because of what they do, but they are what they are. It's you spineless [BLEEP] who let them steal the election and do it to all of us are the real problem. Spineless weasels the lot of you.

You didn't fight it either.  I didn't fight it because I don't think it's real.  You didn't fight it because you're all talk.

My party didn't get [BLEEP].

(09-22-2024, 12:02 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-22-2024, 10:08 AM)Sneakers Wrote: [ -> ]Well, don't keep us in suspense.....

Obviously allowing states to ban abortion is a positive for me, and election violence is a negative.

What violence occurred as a result of the 2016 election?

(09-22-2024, 01:11 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-22-2024, 10:40 AM)Sneakers Wrote: [ -> ]You're not really responding to the spirit of Stroud's original question.  Financial position is only one aspect of life and there obviously can be a world of range between any given individuals.  His position (with which I agree) is the country as a whole was better off under Trump.  Do you believe the general population, especially those in lower income levels are better off financially under Biden?

Now what about some of the other things that affect quality of life.  Are store owners dealing with rampant shoplifting better off?  How about the restaurant committed to a ten-year lease with a new homeless encampment next door?  How's the Democratic border policy and "Defund the police" movement working out for them?

If you want to ask me whether the country was better off under Trump than under Biden, I would say no.  I think Trump's allegation that the 2020 election was stolen, and his leading millions of people into that belief, did enormous damage to the country.

What kind of damage?  Did it make the cost of living go up or increase the flow of fentanyl across the border?  How about the flow of illegal migrants?  Did all those homeless encampments materialize as a direct result?  Mob robberies?  Drug addiction?  Aren't those problems worse now than they were 4 years ago?

(09-22-2024, 09:41 PM)Sneakers Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-22-2024, 12:02 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]Obviously allowing states to ban abortion is a positive for me, and election violence is a negative.

What violence occurred as a result of the 2016 election?

The man who won the 2016 election introduced political violence into our elections in 2020.
Try to keep up.

(09-22-2024, 10:01 PM)Sneakers Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-22-2024, 01:11 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]If you want to ask me whether the country was better off under Trump than under Biden, I would say no.  I think Trump's allegation that the 2020 election was stolen, and his leading millions of people into that belief, did enormous damage to the country.

What kind of damage?  Did it make the cost of living go up or increase the flow of fentanyl across the border?  How about the flow of illegal migrants?  Did all those homeless encampments materialize as a direct result?  Mob robberies?  Drug addiction?  Aren't those problems worse now than they were 4 years ago?

It inflamed his supporters to the point that they don't trust elections anymore.  Trusting the election process is essential to having a democracy (or in our case, a democratic republic).  It led to the storming of the nation's Capitol.  It pushed us closer to something previously unthinkable, a civil war.  In fact, we are now so polarized and mistrustful of each other that we can't deal with our problems effectively.  Donald Trump is a poison pill.  Our adversaries couldn't have picked a better person to damage this country.

(09-22-2024, 09:25 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-22-2024, 09:07 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]You didn't fight it either.  I didn't fight it because I don't think it's real.  You didn't fight it because you're all talk.

My party didn't get [BLEEP].

And you call me fake.
You support Trump. That's your party.  As long as he's on the scene that's your party.  Be real about it.  You can not spare him, for he fights.

(09-22-2024, 10:01 PM)Sneakers Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-22-2024, 01:11 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]If you want to ask me whether the country was better off under Trump than under Biden, I would say no.  I think Trump's allegation that the 2020 election was stolen, and his leading millions of people into that belief, did enormous damage to the country.

What kind of damage?  Did it make the cost of living go up or increase the flow of fentanyl across the border?  How about the flow of illegal migrants?  Did all those homeless encampments materialize as a direct result?  Mob robberies?  Drug addiction?  Aren't those problems worse now than they were 4 years ago?

It's so weird when authoritarian conservatives get all materialist on you. Like wait, since when do you guys care about any of that?

But to answer your question, a lot of those bad things are on a downward trend.  They went up during the pandemic, so they started going up before Biden got into office.

This is Mike right here.

https://twitter.com/Travis_4_Trump/statu...nguxA&s=19

(09-23-2024, 06:58 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-22-2024, 09:25 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]My party didn't get [BLEEP].

And you call me fake.
You support Trump. That's your party.  As long as he's on the scene that's your party.  Be real about it.  You can not spare him, for he fights.

I support Trump over Harris and will likely always support the Republicans over the Democrats. But neither is my party and no one wants to talk about Chase Oliver or the Libertarian Party platform because it's immaterial to the conversation. We could have better but we're stuck with either the evil of the Democrats of the spinelessness of the Republicans. I'm glad to have a candidate who at least competes as a foil against the worst aspects of the left, but it's futile when you see so many quislings like yourself who would rather be Gracious Losers than Disliked Winners.

And that gagging you feel is how Estrogen-laden femmies like yourself react to actual Testosterone. Your body rejects it and it messes up your period. You should avoid me for awhile if you want the effects to subside.

(09-23-2024, 08:32 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-23-2024, 06:58 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]And you call me fake.
You support Trump. That's your party.  As long as he's on the scene that's your party.  Be real about it.  You can not spare him, for he fights.

I support Trump over Harris and will likely always support the Republicans over the Democrats. But neither is my party and no one wants to talk about Chase Oliver or the Libertarian Party platform because it's immaterial to the conversation. We could have better but we're stuck with either the evil of the Democrats of the spinelessness of the Republicans. I'm glad to have a candidate who at least competes as a foil against the worst aspects of the left, but it's futile when you see so many quislings like yourself who would rather be Gracious Losers than Disliked Winners.

And that gagging you feel is how Estrogen-laden femmies like yourself react to actual Testosterone. Your body rejects it and it messes up your period. You should avoid me for awhile if you want the effects to subside.

Regardless of who my favorite unicorn is, if I strongly preferred one of the two major candidates over another, and I sincerely believed that the one I preferred was a victim of a rigged election, I would have protested.  Violently, if necessary.

(09-22-2024, 09:07 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-22-2024, 08:45 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]It's ok Pookie, you idiots not fighting that election fraud is why we are where we are. This [BLEEP] show we've had since 2021 is entirely your fault. I don't even blame the Dems, they're ridiculously terrible people with horrible politics, and what's happened to our country the last 3.5 years is because of what they do, but they are what they are. It's you spineless [BLEEP] who let them steal the election and do it to all of us are the real problem. Spineless weasels the lot of you.

You didn't fight it either.  I didn't fight it because I don't think it's real.  You didn't fight it because you're all talk.

Fighting Election Fraud by posting on Duvalpride.com  --- Thank you for your service.

This woman is a pure piece of [BLEEP]..

Vote accordingly..

https://twitter.com/GuntherEagleman/stat...FvEng&s=19

(09-23-2024, 09:04 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-23-2024, 08:32 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]I support Trump over Harris and will likely always support the Republicans over the Democrats. But neither is my party and no one wants to talk about Chase Oliver or the Libertarian Party platform because it's immaterial to the conversation. We could have better but we're stuck with either the evil of the Democrats of the spinelessness of the Republicans. I'm glad to have a candidate who at least competes as a foil against the worst aspects of the left, but it's futile when you see so many quislings like yourself who would rather be Gracious Losers than Disliked Winners.

And that gagging you feel is how Estrogen-laden femmies like yourself react to actual Testosterone. Your body rejects it and it messes up your period. You should avoid me for awhile if you want the effects to subside.

Regardless of who my favorite unicorn is, if I strongly preferred one of the two major candidates over another, and I sincerely believed that the one I preferred was a victim of a rigged election, I would have protested.  Violently, if necessary.

That's rich coming from you.

(09-23-2024, 09:50 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]This woman is a pure piece of [BLEEP]..

Vote accordingly..

https://x.com/GuntherEagleman/status/183...FvEng&s=19

I saw one of her ads during the Panthers/Raiders game and she was talking about building affordable housing and promising other cool stuff to help the middle class. We all know that's BS.

Nothing for the migrants. Maybe those ads are only running in border states and blue states where they've been dumped. 

Nothing for the lower class. I guess those ads only run in specific locations.

(09-23-2024, 10:14 AM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-23-2024, 09:50 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]This woman is a pure piece of [BLEEP]..

Vote accordingly..

https://x.com/GuntherEagleman/status/183...FvEng&s=19

I saw one of her ads during the Panthers/Raiders game and she was talking about building affordable housing and promising other cool stuff to help the middle class. We all know that's BS.

Nothing for the migrants. Maybe those ads are only running in border states and blue states where they've been dumped. 

Nothing for the lower class. I guess those ads only run in specific locations.

Even the word "Sinister" in Latin means The Left side..

So I think it would be appropriate to call them sinister..