(08-02-2024, 09:43 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ] (08-02-2024, 11:11 AM)Jagwired Wrote: [ -> ]'F--- the White women': Black activists tied to VP Harris could derail Dem 'unity' message with past rhetoric
Nothing about what those women said made any sense. Some of it is downright stupid. White women are always going to do what white men say? .gif "Laughing")
That alone is a ridiculous thing to say and it's not the worst any of them said. White women; this and black women that. It must be hard to exist on identity politics.
identity politics = hate
Any time you preference a statement with a color it is by definition discriminatory.
I was married 35 years. Happily because I knew I had two jobs. Manual labor and fund raising....
(08-03-2024, 09:25 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]This would be Glorious!!
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Glad to hear this. Harris will get under his skin like all other Black (Bi-racial) women who have challenged him in the past. Doesn't matter what network will host this. Baier and McCallum are fair most of the time so they are good choices.
(08-03-2024, 09:42 AM)jaglou53 Wrote: [ -> ] (08-03-2024, 09:25 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]This would be Glorious!!
Glad to hear this. Harris will get under his skin like all other Black (Bi-racial) women who have challenged him in the past. Doesn't matter what network will host this. Baier and McCallum are fair most of the time so they are good choices.
Kackleface is too scared.. She won't have time to debate, she has a few guys to meet under some California pier that night.
(08-03-2024, 09:42 AM)jaglou53 Wrote: [ -> ] (08-03-2024, 09:25 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]This would be Glorious!!
Glad to hear this. Harris will get under his skin like all other Black (Bi-racial) women who have challenged him in the past. Doesn't matter what network will host this. Baier and McCallum are fair most of the time so they are good choices.
No she won't, because she refused the debate. She knows being hit with non-softball questions will destroy her campaign.
Also, have you ever actually seen Harris debate? Your loathe for Trump makes you live in a world of delusion it seems.
Once Camel sees the faux media generated excitement didn't translate to an actual rise in the polls, she will be forced to accept this debate. They are still riding on an artificial sugar high right now.
(08-03-2024, 02:17 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ] (08-03-2024, 01:24 PM)Jag149 Wrote: [ -> ]Cool, round up a bunch of busses and deport them. They made it easy for us. Illegal aliens do not have the civil rights citizens do.
They have Constitutional rights where the Constitution refers to "persons" or "people" and not "citizens."
What constitutional rights do undocumented immigrants have? | PBS News
Get out of here with that pinko commie Kum bye yah stuff, Marty. We aren't smart enough for it around here.
(08-03-2024, 03:02 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (08-03-2024, 02:17 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]They have Constitutional rights where the Constitution refers to "persons" or "people" and not "citizens."
What constitutional rights do undocumented immigrants have? | PBS News
Get out of here with that pinko commie Kum bye yah stuff, Marty. We aren't smart enough for it around here.
Just trying to educate the uneducated.
(08-03-2024, 02:17 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ] (08-03-2024, 01:24 PM)Jag149 Wrote: [ -> ]Cool, round up a bunch of busses and deport them. They made it easy for us. Illegal aliens do not have the civil rights citizens do.
They have Constitutional rights where the Constitution refers to "persons" or "people" and not "citizens."
What constitutional rights do undocumented immigrants have? | PBS News
Did you actually read everything in that article? There are many nuances to the rights non-citizens have and they are not the same as for citizens. All of these are directly from the article.
Example #1 on voting: The Constitution does not prohibit anyone from voting. Instead, it spells out who cannot be denied the right to vote. If you are not a U.S. citizen, voting in a federal election could land you in prison for up to three years or lead to deportation. States can impose their own, sometimes harsher, penalties for breaking the law. However, because elections are largely a local affair, some states allow local governments to decide whether noncitizens can vote in local elections.
Example #2 relating to due process: The Fifth Amendment states that “no person … shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law.” Immigrants have the right to due process. But in reality, says, Andrew Arthur, a resident fellow in law and policy at the conservative Center for Immigration Studies, “courts of law run the gamut.” “In immigration court, you have very few rights,” said John Gihon, an immigration attorney who spent six years as a prosecutor for U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement before moving into private practice.
Example #3 the right to legal counsel: The Sixth Amendment states that “In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall…have the assistance of counsel for his defense.” Because most deportation proceedings are civil rather than criminal cases, the right to legal counsel often doesn’t apply. Under the law, anyone facing a criminal charge has the right to counsel. However, the government is only required to provide counsel if the person is accused of a felony. Crossing the border illegally is a misdemeanor.
(08-03-2024, 03:51 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ] (08-03-2024, 02:17 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]They have Constitutional rights where the Constitution refers to "persons" or "people" and not "citizens."
What constitutional rights do undocumented immigrants have? | PBS News
Did you actually read everything in that article? There are many nuances to the rights non-citizens have and they are not the same as for citizens. All of these are directly from the article.
Example #1 on voting: The Constitution does not prohibit anyone from voting. Instead, it spells out who cannot be denied the right to vote. If you are not a U.S. citizen, voting in a federal election could land you in prison for up to three years or lead to deportation. States can impose their own, sometimes harsher, penalties for breaking the law. However, because elections are largely a local affair, some states allow local governments to decide whether noncitizens can vote in local elections.
Example #2 relating to due process: The Fifth Amendment states that “no person … shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law.” Immigrants have the right to due process. But in reality, says, Andrew Arthur, a resident fellow in law and policy at the conservative Center for Immigration Studies, “courts of law run the gamut.” “In immigration court, you have very few rights,” said John Gihon, an immigration attorney who spent six years as a prosecutor for U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement before moving into private practice.
Example #3 the right to legal counsel: The Sixth Amendment states that “In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall…have the assistance of counsel for his defense.” Because most deportation proceedings are civil rather than criminal cases, the right to legal counsel often doesn’t apply. Under the law, anyone facing a criminal charge has the right to counsel. However, the government is only required to provide counsel if the person is accused of a felony. Crossing the border illegally is a misdemeanor.
Absolutely I read the whole article, and nothing you wrote there contradicts anything I said. Heck, I'm the one who posted the article in the first place. And I'm glad you read it. All I was saying was that illegal immigrants have some rights, and the assertion that they do not have any rights is erroneous.
But it's an interesting discussion. To me, the reason illegal immigrants should have some (not all) Constitutional rights is that otherwise anyone can be picked up and deported without a right to counsel or a trial. Just picked up and ejected from the country. Maybe it would happen to you. You could say, but I'm a citizen, but then they could say, I don't believe you so I am putting you on a plane to Mexico. Bye. If illegal immigrants had no Constitutional rights, all the government has to do is accuse you of being an illegal immigrant, and they can do whatever they want.
(08-03-2024, 03:40 PM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]Looks like someone got their cycle on this Honeymoon lololol
https://twitter.com/LeadingReport/status...pZQ7w&s=19
Right now is the best she will ever do, It's down hill from here. The only 2 things they have is she is a black woman and she is democrat. The liberals do not have any arguments vs those 2 statements.
(08-03-2024, 06:00 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]What a [BLEEP] idiot.
https://twitter.com/DefiantLs/status/181...rfI7w&s=19
Not gonna lie, the first time I tried to explain to my mom how the cloud works I probably sounded a lot like Harris does here. Lol. Mom kept looking at me with a blank stare and I was trying to phrase it with a visual she would understand. I finally gave up and told her to Google or YouTube it.
(08-03-2024, 04:59 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ] (08-03-2024, 03:51 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]Did you actually read everything in that article? There are many nuances to the rights non-citizens have and they are not the same as for citizens. All of these are directly from the article.
Example #1 on voting: The Constitution does not prohibit anyone from voting. Instead, it spells out who cannot be denied the right to vote. If you are not a U.S. citizen, voting in a federal election could land you in prison for up to three years or lead to deportation. States can impose their own, sometimes harsher, penalties for breaking the law. However, because elections are largely a local affair, some states allow local governments to decide whether noncitizens can vote in local elections.
Example #2 relating to due process: The Fifth Amendment states that “no person … shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law.” Immigrants have the right to due process. But in reality, says, Andrew Arthur, a resident fellow in law and policy at the conservative Center for Immigration Studies, “courts of law run the gamut.” “In immigration court, you have very few rights,” said John Gihon, an immigration attorney who spent six years as a prosecutor for U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement before moving into private practice.
Example #3 the right to legal counsel: The Sixth Amendment states that “In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall…have the assistance of counsel for his defense.” Because most deportation proceedings are civil rather than criminal cases, the right to legal counsel often doesn’t apply. Under the law, anyone facing a criminal charge has the right to counsel. However, the government is only required to provide counsel if the person is accused of a felony. Crossing the border illegally is a misdemeanor.
Absolutely I read the whole article, and nothing you wrote there contradicts anything I said. Heck, I'm the one who posted the article in the first place. And I'm glad you read it. All I was saying was that illegal immigrants have some rights, and the assertion that they do not have any rights is erroneous.
But it's an interesting discussion. To me, the reason illegal immigrants should have some (not all) Constitutional rights is that otherwise anyone can be picked up and deported without a right to counsel or a trial. Just picked up and ejected from the country. Maybe it would happen to you. You could say, but I'm a citizen, but then they could say, I don't believe you so I am putting you on a plane to Mexico. Bye. If illegal immigrants had no Constitutional rights, all the government has to do is accuse you of being an illegal immigrant, and they can do whatever they want.
10-4 I get what you're saying.
I did learn a few things so thanks for posting that info.