Quote:To be honest with my fellow Jag fans The national media looks at this team and City as the poor kid that got accepted to the private school and the other rich Kidz feel like we don't belong there.
Buffalo? New Orleans? Rich?
Quote:To be honest with my fellow Jag fans The national media looks at this team and City as the poor kid that got accepted to the private school and the other rich Kidz feel like we don't belong there.
Well then, there's only one thing left to do...
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Quote:Where do you get this garbage?
Jacksonville had 900k when it got the team. It has 1.5 million now, having surpassed New Orleans and Buffalo. Would you suggest that New Orleans and Buffalo don't deserve teams?
Fan support for this franchise has been outstanding since Shad bought the team. Consider that prior to this year, the Jags started 0-7 for three--count 'em three--years in a row. That means that by mid October, while fans of most teams are thinking playoffs, Jags fans are thinking about the draft. And yet fans - 60k or more -consistently show up.
Whoa, nelly! Easy! Down boy! Jeesh, I'm on your side.
I don't know if you were around in the early to mid '90s, but back then, John Delaney & co. were talking up Jacksonville as "the next Atlanta". The insurance market was nuts, which was great for insurance-heavy Jacksonville, and the city was growing at a very nice clip. That growth did not sustain itself, and although yeah, fan support for the team is great now, those tarps still appear on TV, and it's still apparent on TV that the stands are less than full shortly after the third quarter kicks off. Also, the city has been a running punchline in stand-up comedy for 20 years now. Combine that with everything else I said above, and you'll see why the national media--not me--finds it so easy and fun to pile on Jacksonville.
Also, Buffalo has nearly lost their team on a few occasions, and New Orleans was considerably bigger than Jacksonville until this mean old lady called Katrina rolled through. By the way, New Orleans nearly lost their team after that.
Sorry. I'm just sensitive tonight. There are few things I hate worse than talk of the Jags relocating. And with all the tremendous fan support the team has received despite not having a winning season in nearly a decade, I was hoping we could lay the "Jax doesn't deserve an NFL team" talk to rest.
Quote:Jaguars are guaranteed to stay in Jacksonille for decades
How you figure, sports fan? .
Jim Thomas and Nick Wagoner are beat writers for the now former St. Louis Rams. Shad Khan has spoken:
https://twitter.com/jthom1/status/687153459229896704
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Jim Thomas<span>Verified account </span>@<b>jthom1</b> </a> <a class="" href='https://twitter.com/jthom1/status/687153459229896704' title="10:05 PM - 12 Jan 2016">1h1 hour ago</a>
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<p class="">Nick Wagoner and I just caught up w/Jaguars owner Shad Khan. Said he's not interested in moving to St. Louis.
Quote:Sorry. I'm just sensitive tonight. There are few things I hate worse than talk of the Jags relocating. And with all the tremendous fan support the team has received despite not having a winning season in nearly a decade, I was hoping we could lay the "Jax doesn't deserve an NFL team" talk to rest.
It'll never end, dude. Just accept it. Jacksonville will always have those in the press who want to take the team from us, but let's think critically about this for a second: Shad Khan could easily,
easily have bought the Jaguars, handed Wayne Weaver a $250M check on top of the purchase price and said see-ya! That was basically the only stipulation in the contract that would have anchored Khan in Jacksonville if he wanted to move: a $250M payment due to Wayne Weaver if the team moved within 10 years--and that deal might have even been specific to LA. If the Jaguars were going to move, it logically would have happened shortly after Khan bought the team. Kind of like how the Rams' move logically happened shortly after Stan Kroenke bought a crapton of land and said that he was building a stadium on it.
Just relax, accept that the haters gonna hate hate hate and enjoy the fact that we have one more NFL team than the St. Louis sports journalists who've been trying to poach the Jaguars since the day Kroenke's intentions became clear.
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Nick Wagoner and I just caught up w/Jaguars owner Shad Khan. Said he's not interested in moving to St. Louis.
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Not that he'd announce to the press that he were planning to do that anyway, but anyone who's been paying attention and isn't desperate and angry (i.e., not located in St. Louis) should be able to tell instantly that Khan has no intentions of pulling the team out of Jacksonville.
Quote:Buffalo? New Orleans? Rich?
No they not but they are people who are considered middle class and help build the private school. A.K.A. Traditional Franchises and Bourbon St.
I don't get all the tears and sympathy for St. Louis, TBH, especially as it relates to Jacksonville.
Yes, it sucks to lose an NFL team.
But St. Louis has lost two (2) NFL teams in less than 30 years. They lost the Cardinals over stadium issues. The Cardinals wanted their own stadium, and St. Louis rejected it. The Cardinals had openly discussed relocating, including an overture to Jacksonville in the 1980s. St. Louis ignored the Cardinals requests and lost them.
St. Louis KNEW after that how important stadium issues are. When they lured the Rams to town, the city knowingly and willingly promised the Rams a stadium in the top 25 percent or so of the league.
Soon, the TWA dome/Edward Jones Dome grew obsolete. By any number of objective, outside measures, the dome in St. Louis ranked among the worst in the league. Still, they didn't rectify the situation, and they lost the Rams.
It would be one thing if they supported the Cardinals and Rams. But they didn't.
Jacksonville, long knocked for our attendance, outdrew the Rams nine (9) out of the last ten (10) years. I'm betting it would even be more lopsided if you went back to 1996.
It sucks that the football fans in St. Louis lost their team. But the city leaders failed them again.
Of course Jax has a team, we're a better city and better fanbase than that [BLEEP] hole in Mizzu.
Quote:No they not but they are people who are considered middle class and help build the private school. A.K.A. Traditional Franchises and Bourbon St.
Traditional franchises - yes. I have no idea what you're trying to say with those other words.
You'll hear or see a few shots slip through here and there. But it's all but died down. You might still hear about us moving East and overseas to London though now. Just glad the LA talk is finally over with and getting out of the way. It's always made more sense for a team out west to relocate to LA. I knew that even when I was a kid and we were packaging tickets up through Winn Dixie to sell seats. It's still sad to see though. Even analysts on ESPN are saying that the NFL is a business at the end of the day and that it's amazing that even in 2016 the majority of the ownership of the NFL have ice water in their veins. They took shots at Goodell as well. Someone said that guys like Taglibue and Rosell never pushed teams out of cities and tried to keep them all stable within their current locations. We could potentially see two more teams move under Goodell if San Diego decides to jump to LA with the Rams. And then Davis with the Raiders has already said he's not happy with Oakland. He could look for another city outside of LA or California if he must to get what he wants for his team and brand.