Quote:Unfortunately for Detroit, they hit the antithesis of the lottery. I'm not sure there is any "nice" spot of Detroit.
The airport's nice. Especially if you're leaving.
Quote:I spent over a month in St. Louis working just outside of the city, and staying down in Fenton across from an old closed manufacturing facility where Chrysler used to build their mini vans. Fenton was a nice area similar to something like Mandarin here in Jax. Decent neighborhoods, newer shopping centers, good restaurants, and nice hotels. I got a good dose of STL during that month, and actually enjoyed my time there. Great people. Nice city. VERY baseball focused. The Rams were almost an afterthought with most people I spoke to, and I was there right around the draft. Nobody was talking about it because spring training was about to end.
I'll echo that. One of my oldest friends has spent his entire life in STL, and while he is and was a die-hard Rams fan from the day they arrived until the day they left, he readily acknowledged that if the Rams are winning, they get a nice following at the local level. If they're not winning, they're just "that other team" that people only go to see when they have a few bucks lying around and there's not a Cardinals game to go to instead.
Downtown St Louis isn't bad at all. I worked at the AT&T Center there for 5 years. The fans never bothered me and it is very very much a baseball town. They are hockey crazy as well. Went to a lot of great Blues games over the years. I'm not a big fan of the State of Missouri. I miss living in Melbourne, FL all the time because I could get up to Jacksonville and Orlando without any issue.
There is a strong core of STL fans that believe the Jaguars are and will always be the expansion team they deserve. They will spin their articles and believe 100% that Kahn will move their team home eventually.
The question is would Tony Khan move the team?
Quote:The question is would Tony Khan move the team?
If that's what the analytics tell him.
Quote:Well, I'll say that I've stopped through every state in the country. I live in the Bahamas now, but it's the first time I've ever been outside the country. I've worked on a cruise ship that sailed to every island in Hawaii, and my submarine broke down and pulled into Anchorage Alaska for 14 days. I've been across country by plane, train, and car, no less than 6 times each (stationed in Washington, born in San Diego, raised in Jacksonville. I'm all of 28 years old. Not well-traveled would be the wrong way to describe me.
I've passed through St Louis twice, once via a 3 hour layover on a train, and once in downtown on a car trip across country. The traffic made Blanding Blvd look like a cakewalk, and that was on the interstate. I remember taking a picture with my mom at the Gateway Arches when I was a youngen, which was within walking distance of the train station, and being asked if we would like to buy crack.
It's like you said. Every city has nice parts and bad parts. In the end however, you tend to rank cities based on your experiences in them versus other cities. For example, I don't particularly find Jacksonville to be that nice of a city. There are very nice parts, but there's a large amount of crappiness when I compare it to a Charleston, Seattle, Chicago, Boston, etc...
Sorry to rant. I've traveled a lot more than most people my age and I take pride in it. St Louis, and (I'm sorry to say D6) Detroit are 2 cities that have left very lasting negative impressions upon me. I didn't use the term cesspool lightly.
/bodied
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I wonder how many of your other 21000+ posts are as thought provoking as this one?
Quote:I wonder how many of your other 21000+ posts are as thought provoking as this one?
soooooo... did u buy the crack, or what?
...annnnddd... u typed all that just to to delete in in edit with "useless rant"? What taste did L.A. and NYC leave in ur mouth? Word of advice for the traveler. When comparing cities, be sure to compare relative neighborhoods. Or climate and demographic.
Me myself, I've been to countless cities within and outside the U.S., and to be quite honest, I seek out the hood in any city Im at. There's a certain comfort to finally arriving to urban demographic interacting with the natives.
And I typically try to avoid it.
Different strokes
Quote:soooooo... did u buy the crack, or what?
...annnnddd... u typed all that just to to delete in in edit with "useless rant"? What taste did L.A. and NYC leave in ur mouth? Word of advice for the traveler. When comparing cities, be sure to compare relative neighborhoods. Or climate and demographic.
I didnt buy the crack. I was 16 actually, not that it's relevant.
Yes, I deleted all that to not derail a thread. Good observation.
L.A.: I've been to the train station 6 times. I got robbed once, someone actually stole a Jaguars wind breaker from me, but aside from that one experience, I loved it there. The train station there, and in Chicago and Washington DC are all pretty famous though.
NYC: Been thrice. Most recently I took my 83 year old mom (I was raised by my grandmother) to see the sight of the WTC attacks, probably 5 years ago now. Ate in little Italy, probably could've chose a better place. $300 fine to honk at someone in the streets of NYC a bit nuts, but overall I thought it was a surreal city. Never seen anything like it, although I don't think I would like to live there. Thanks for asking actually, I enjoy talking about my experiences in different places I've been. It's a great big world out there no doubt.
NYC is the best. Everything smells like food.
Except around the park, it smells of horse dung.
Quote:I wonder how many of your other 21000+ posts are as thought provoking as this one?
I was suggesting you murdered him with your post.
Now, I think maybe it was just an accident.
Quote:I didnt buy the crack. I was 16 actually, not that it's relevant.
Yes, I deleted all that to not derail a thread. Good observation.
L.A.: I've been to the train station 6 times. I got robbed once, someone actually stole a Jaguars wind breaker from me, but aside from that one experience, I loved it there. The train station there, and in Chicago and Washington DC are all pretty famous though.
NYC: Been thrice. Most recently I took my 83 year old mom (I was raised by my grandmother) to see the sight of the WTC attacks, probably 5 years ago now. Ate in little Italy, probably could've chose a better place. $300 fine to honk at someone in the streets of NYC a bit nuts, but overall I thought it was a surreal city. Never seen anything like it, although I don't think I would like to live there. Thanks for asking actually, I enjoy talking about my experiences in different places I've been. It's a great big world out there no doubt.
Lol! Oh my goodness! I laughed so hard at u getting robbed "once" lol! Thats wild. Glad ur ok. U getting robbed at the train station in L.A. may have been fate. U may have started a Jaguar fanbase there off of that.
And yeah, that honking law/fee is ridiculous
Quote:And I typically try to avoid it.
Different strokes
That was good
Quote:NYC is the best. Everything smells like food.
Except around the park, it smells of horse dung.
Don't hop a subway. The stench of urine can be pretty overwhelming.
Quote:Don't hop a subway. The stench of urine can be pretty overwhelming.
I guess you do not care for NYC.
Unless one has actually lived in a place it's hard to judge. Passing through, lived there for less than a year won't give you perspective.
I too, have been to numerous cities and towns in Canada, Germany and the US.
JAX is unique. You can travel a half hour in either direction and have the feel of a different town. Beaches, Riverside/Avondale, Middleburg/Green Cove, Westside....all unique. Close by? Cumberland Island, the cluster piss called Orlando, St.Augustine.
I can go on, but JAX is what you want it to be.....and it's our football team that brings whites, blacks, republicans,democrats, young,old together like nothing else.
The less people know about it , the better. . We're full.
Khan would be dumb if moved out of Jax. The city is beautiful. The fact hardly any traffic jams with over a million people and the way traffic just flows is amazing. So once we start winning new fans have no issue getting to the stadium. Convenience is always key. No state tax for a millionaire is golden. And a deal in place to bring in international revenue as well. And the first thing tourist see is Jacksonville only two hours from Disney is magical.
Many don't get that. Due to can't see Jax well covered by highway. Or only lived in congested parts of the country paying super high prices for everything. But Jacksonville for Tourist is like a dream come true. Imagine having International tourist having to travel through Queens or Las Angeles to see a game?
So let um hate. Don't realize what they are missing. A beautiful city with very passionate fans. Though laid back and not in your face like other cities. Yet still represent. J-A-G-U-A-R-S Go Jaguars!
Quote:Don't hop a subway. The stench of urine can be pretty overwhelming.
When you jam 1% of the world's population into a 10'x67' box and send the whole thing deep underground, the smells one experiences are a life-altering event.