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Quote:Gus has instilled a losing mindset with a culture free from any sort of accountability, from the coaching staff on down to the players. Even Jason Garrett was laughing at how inept this coaching staff was for not adjusting against Dez and then they repeat the same mistakes this year against Hopkins. Make it end please Khan! Watch a training camp run by Gus compared to a training camp run by Coughlin or even JDR to a lesser extent. Night and day difference. Those guys ran a FOOTBALL PRACTICE, always high intensity. Gus comes out dancing to the latest top 40 hits in cargo shorts. No wonder players come to Jacksonville for a vacation!
 

You're really big on this junior high school stuff, aren't you?

 

It's professional football. Now you're pretending to see a different training camp regarding Coughlin or del Rio. See a lot of Giants or Raider practices? Yeah, that's what I thought.

 

I'm sorry -  I interrupted - continue with the rant of an eighty year old. How did George Halas run his practices?
Quote:You're really big on this junior high school stuff, aren't you?

 

It's professional football. Now you're pretending to see a different training camp regarding Coughlin or del Rio. See a lot of Giants or Raider practices? Yeah, that's what I thought.

 

I'm sorry -  I interrupted - continue with the rant of an eighty year old. How did George Halas run his practices?
 

You must be the one in junior high if you don't remember JDR or TC's tenures in JACKSONVILLE. What the hell would give you the impression that I spent any time at Giants or Raiders camp? I can assure you (and many, many, many posters would be willing to back me on this) that there was a night and day difference between the tone at practice and the way it was run between when real NFL coaches were here and the lollipop stuff that Bradley runs. To his credit, a lot of it has to do with changes in the CBA, but he has to change the culture around the team and create a sense of urgency.
Gus has a four year contract. Even if Gus is let go the contract still has to be paid. Probably would not bother Khan in the least. It is not like firing a grocery store employee. But you have to remember, his first year did not count. Actually we are on our second year of rebuilding. The team was torn down after his first year. And torn down more than most teams have been in the past. So to say he has been here for a 3 year rebuild is false. The rebuild started in 2014.
Quote:Gus has a four year contract. Even if Gus is let go the contract still has to be paid. Probably would not bother Khan in the least. It is not like firing a grocery store employee. But you have to remember, his first year did not count. Actually we are on our second year of rebuilding. The team was torn down after his first year. And torn down more than most teams have been in the past. So to say he has been here for a 3 year rebuild is false. The rebuild started in 2014.
 

The rebuild started in 2008. Even the economy recovered faster than us Sick
Quote:You must be the one in junior high if you don't remember JDR or TC's tenures in JACKSONVILLE. What the hell would give you the impression that I spent any time at Giants or Raiders camp? I can assure you (and many, many, many posters would be willing to back me on this) that there was a night and day difference between the tone at practice and the way it was run between when real NFL coaches were here and the lollipop stuff that Bradley runs. To his credit, a lot of it has to do with changes in the CBA, but he has to change the culture around the team and create a sense of urgency.
 

Do you follow the NFL? Are you not aware of the changes to practice schedules, etc., brought about by the latest CBA? 

 

I'm sure you're not very informed - but that's ok - as long as you sound cool and tough and all pumped up! Real NFL coaches! Sense of urgency!

 

C'mon, I'm sure you can come up with more buzz words to make it sound like you care more than the rest of us.
Crap Coach... Bzzzzzzz....
Quote:Do you follow the NFL? Are you not aware of the changes to practice schedules, etc., brought about by the latest CBA? 

 

I'm sure you're not very informed - but that's ok - as long as you sound cool and tough and all pumped up! Real NFL coaches! Sense of urgency!

 

C'mon, I'm sure you can come up with more buzz words to make it sound like you care more than the rest of us.
 

I should probably give you a pass with that junior high education and all, but if you had any semblance of reading comprehension, you would see that I specifically mentioned the changes in the CBA. I doubt you would find many people, on this board or elsewhere that is as informed as I am on all things Jaguars past and present, so back to the drawing board son!
Quote:Do you follow the NFL? Are you not aware of the changes to practice schedules, etc., brought about by the latest CBA? 

 

I'm sure you're not very informed - but that's ok - as long as you sound cool and tough and all pumped up! Real NFL coaches! Sense of urgency!

 

C'mon, I'm sure you can come up with more buzz words to make it sound like you care more than the rest of us.
 

Maybe you could contribute some substance here or an actual opinion (with some facts to back it up would be great)?

 

Your bashing is getting old.
Let's not derail this thread. How do you guys feel about the culture of this team
Culture is not a winning one. 

 

It's a "Near enough is good enough" culture.

 

For all of NE's faults, at last they have a win at all costs culture.

Quote:Let's not derail this thread. How do you guys feel about the culture of this team
 

The culture on this team is a losing one and until that changes, they will continue to lose games and have losing seasons.

 

The Jags just don't seem to come out with any passion, fire or swagger either to start a game or really, at any point during a game. They just come out completely flat way too many times.

 

I mean REAL passion, fire and swagger, no matter who the opponent is.

 

Even if the Jags feel like they are the underdog, they should still be able to come out at the start of the game and put up a good fight and let the other team know that they are going to be there all day and even if the other team wins, they are going to know they played a tough football team today.

 

The Jags need to come out and hit them hard, just make sure it's within the rules hard. They have to find a way to stop coming out so flat and soft and letting the other team just push them around.

 

The culture needs to change where the Jags become a hard hitting team all game long and whatever happens happens.

 

Basically, the culture needs to change if the Jags are going to have any chance at success and that all starts with the HC.
Quote:Maybe you could contribute some substance here or an actual opinion (with some facts to back it up would be great)?

 

Your bashing is getting old.
 

Says the Queen of the Bradley Bashers. You and substance are far, far apart. Just crying and moaning.
Quote:The culture on this team is a losing one and until that changes, they will continue to lose games and have losing seasons.

 

The Jags just don't seem to come out with any passion, fire or swagger either to start a game or really, at any point during a game. They just come out completely flat way too many times.

 

I mean REAL passion, fire and swagger, no matter who the opponent is.

 

Even if the Jags feel like they are the underdog, they should still be able to come out at the start of the game and put up a good fight and let the other team know that they are going to be there all day and even if the other team wins, they are going to know they played a tough football team today.

 

The Jags need to come out and hit them hard, just make sure it's within the rules hard. They have to find a way to stop coming out so flat and soft and letting the other team just push them around.

 

The culture needs to change where the Jags become a hard hitting team all game long and whatever happens happens.

 

Basically, the culture needs to change if the Jags are going to have any chance at success and that all starts with the HC.
 

The culture isn't losing, it's soft. Nice cushy camps with yoga and massages. Drinks by the pool. A game room instead of a locker room. No blue collar mentality, no lunch pail guys, just a bunch of softies getting their nails done while Coach Self Esteem pats their heads and tells everyone that their effort is great they just need to try a little harder.

 

And then they play games where the real men chew 'em up and spit them all over the field.
The culture also includes John Oehser. Still holding out hope he steps down and gets rid of the stench and stigma he had on this franchise since he arrived.

The Houston game tells you everything you need to know about this teams culture.
Quote:The culture on this team is a losing one and until that changes, they will continue to lose games and have losing seasons.

 

The Jags just don't seem to come out with any passion, fire or swagger either to start a game or really, at any point during a game. They just come out completely flat way too many times.

 

I mean REAL passion, fire and swagger, no matter who the opponent is.

 

Even if the Jags feel like they are the underdog, they should still be able to come out at the start of the game and put up a good fight and let the other team know that they are going to be there all day and even if the other team wins, they are going to know they played a tough football team today.

 

The Jags need to come out and hit them hard, just make sure it's within the rules hard. They have to find a way to stop coming out so flat and soft and letting the other team just push them around.

 

The culture needs to change where the Jags become a hard hitting team all game long and whatever happens happens.

 

Basically, the culture needs to change if the Jags are going to have any chance at success and that all starts with the HC.
 

My thoughts exactly
I think if we think about it, the results were fairly easy to foresee.  You have a guy that comes in and doesn't even mention the word win, only "get better every day" with no real, tangible goal stated.  The way you accomplish a goal is to first set a goal. If you don't set the goal to win, how is that going to be accomplished?

 

I know winning seems like a common sense goal, but I think it still needs to be reiterated consistently and drilled into everyone that it is really the only thing that matters.

The culture of the team is one that you can be comfortable in your job even if you succeed only 1/4 of the time.  Even if we used his average of .250 in baseball, it wouldn't be a good batting average.  That's how low the winning percentage is.  12-36 is absolutely a putrid record.  I don't foresee a scenario that this isn't another double digit loss team at the same time next year. 

 

To put it into perspective, let's look into the future.  Let's say that Bradley gets it together and becomes an awesome coach.  His winning percentage is so bad that he would have to average an 11-5 record for the next 4 years just to pull his career winning percentage to .500. 

I say they convert the stadium pool into a Sarlacc pit.
There are two cultures: winning and whining. I've only experienced one in the past three years.

 

Perhaps in year 4 of the 3 year rebuild we'll get to the other.

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