Quote:What you fail to realize is once (IF) Elected, all his holdings must go in to a blind trust. He would have no say on trades, etc........
Lol that's why every president nearly triples their net worth by the time theyve left office.
Quote:Bernie is looking out for what he percieves as the country's best interests and has consistently for a long time. Trump on the other hand has looked out for trump and to pretend otherwise is deluding yourself. I'm sure most of his supporters know that and don't care because he's loud and says the crazy things they think but are to ashamed to say in public.
Support whatever you want. If that happens to be bluster and insults wrapped inside xenophobia and racism from an egomaniac than he's your man.
I will take a nationalist who actually understands the economy, trade, and American culture over a cultural and literal Marxist who would undermine the American majority while simultaneously bankrupting the nation. Face the facts, Bernie is a weak-willed career politician who can't even defend his own microphone. He is only in the race because he offers up the treasury to his constituency, and Hillary allows him there (because he makes her look electable). So he can pander to BLM, aloof millennials, and whatever other minority group he wants, he is not going to defeat Clinton. The life-long panderer will fade into obscurity, just like where he came from.
Quote:Lol that's why every president nearly triples their net worth by the time theyve left office.
Yes, you are right, being President can be hugely profitable. Just look at the Clintons. They made about $100 million AFTER they left office. Now, one can say, maybe they actually made money while they were in office and just got paid afterwards, but, who's to say? :whistling:
Quote:Yes, you are right, being President can be hugely profitable. Just look at the Clintons. They made about $100 million AFTER they left office. Now, one can say, maybe they actually made money while they were in office and just got paid afterwards, but, who's to say? :whistling:
Hillary has currently raised 47 million dollars for her campaign. Someone really, really wants her to be President.
Quote:I will take a nationalist who actually understands the economy, trade, and American culture over a cultural and literal Marxist who would undermine the American majority while simultaneously bankrupting the nation. Face the facts, Bernie is a weak-willed career politician who can't even defend his own microphone. He is only in the race because he offers up the treasury to his constituency, and Hillary allows him there (because he makes her look electable). So he can pander to BLM, aloof millennials, and whatever other minority group he wants, he is not going to defeat Clinton. The life-long panderer will fade into obscurity, just like where he came from.
Interesting take. When someone is consistent with their principles that you disagree throughout a long political career its pandering.
On the other hand, when a blowhard with the vocabulary and grammar skills of a third grader shows up and tells you he's worth a lot of money while spewing racist, xenophobic, bigoted, fearmongerong after expressing several liberal ideologies in the not so diatant past, he's what exactly? A "truth teller" to the base that the southern strategy has fostered?
He's an opportunist in this case just like he has been in his business dealings and thats pretty much it. He has expressed facist like ideas that frankly, i dont believe for a second are actually what he thinks so unless he is being real thats actual pandering. Maybe that's enough for you all to ignore his faults and the sure embarrassment he would bring to our country. I expect better from politicians or at the minimum being believable in the act you are trying to sell to the plebs.
Quote:I will take a nationalist who actually understands the economy, trade, and American culture...
Quote:Interesting take. When someone is consistent with their principles that you disagree throughout a long political career its pandering.
On the other hand, when a blowhard with the vocabulary and grammar skills of a third grader shows up and tells you he's worth a lot of money while spewing racist, xenophobic, bigoted, fearmongerong after expressing several liberal ideologies in the not so diatant past, he's what exactly? A "truth teller" to the base that the southern strategy has fostered?
He's an opportunist in this case just like he has been in his business dealings and thats pretty much it. He has expressed facist like ideas that frankly, i dont believe for a second are actually what he thinks so unless he is being real thats actual pandering. Maybe that's enough for you all to ignore his faults and the sure embarrassment he would bring to our country. I expect better from politicians or at the minimum being believable in the act you are trying to sell to the plebs.
You must give Trump credit for understanding our culture, though. Xenophobic demagoguery appeals to an alarmingly large segment of the population.
Obviously anyone who believes we should know who someone is before they are allowed into the country must be a xenophobe.
Quote:Childish.
Childish? Here's your boy...
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Quote:Obviously anyone who believes we should know who someone is before they are allowed into the country must be a xenophobe.
Nobody has said anything even remotely like that, but your response is typical. He's playing to fears, stirring up the rabble. What he isn't doing is offering a reasonable solution in line with our values.
Well, my values, and those expressed by our founding fathers. Clearly, Trump's values are more self-serving.
Quote:Childish? Here's your boy...
Nobody has said anything even remotely like that, but your response is typical. He's playing to fears, stirring up the rabble. What he isn't doing is offering a reasonable solution in line with our values.
Well, my values, and those expressed by our founding fathers. Clearly, Trump's values are more self-serving.
I'm pretty sure that the founding fathers would agree that we should know who the heck is coming into the country before we allow them to come into the country.
As an aside, its pretty ridiculous to to talk about VALUES when defending illegal immigration. If you want 2 million people to migrate to the US each year, fine pass a law. If you want the # to be 10 million fine, pass a law. the idea that you blindly consent to infinite amounts of unknown people flowing accross the southern border in the name of "INCLUSION" is asinine. Hundreds of thousands of crimes committed by criminal aliens in Texas alone. That's not fear mongering, those are statistics. We can't even get the democrats in congress to agree that if someone is convicted of an aggravated felony, deported, and caught defying deportation should be incarcerated!
you're right. We shouldn't be preoccupying ourselves with the safety of our citizens, the founding principle of government, we should be working to release convicted foreign rapists and murderers from our jails. Now that's change you can believe in.
Quote:I'm pretty sure that the founding fathers would agree that we should know who the heck is coming into the country before we allow them to come into the country.
I'm pretty sure almost everyone would agree with that. What I don't agree with is Trump's idea of banning Muslims from entering the country. In my opinion, and in the opinion of most people, that would be a very bad idea, because it would play into the hands of ISIS by telling 1.6 billion people from all over the world that they are not welcome here. ISIS has been trying to spread the idea that the United States is killing Muslims in the Middle East because we hate Muslims. If we ban Muslims, we play right into that. We cannot win the war on terror or defeat ISIS without allies in the Muslim world, and they will be very hard to recruit to our side if we have a ban on Muslims entering the US. If we ban Muslims from entering the country, then in the eyes of the world we're just a bunch of hypocrites who like to claim we have religious freedom, but in actuality, practice religious discrimination. That's why this whole idea is incredibly short sighted and
stupid.
Quote:I'm pretty sure that the founding fathers would agree that we should know who the heck is coming into the country before we allow them to come into the country.
As an aside, its pretty ridiculous to to talk about VALUES when defending illegal immigration. If you want 2 million people to migrate to the US each year, fine pass a law. If you want the # to be 10 million fine, pass a law. the idea that you blindly consent to infinite amounts of unknown people flowing accross the southern border in the name of "INCLUSION" is asinine. Hundreds of thousands of crimes committed by criminal aliens in Texas alone. That's not fear mongering, those are statistics. We can't even get the democrats in congress to agree that if someone is convicted of an aggravated felony, deported, and caught defying deportation should be incarcerated!
you're right. We shouldn't be preoccupying ourselves with the safety of our citizens, the founding principle of government, we should be working to release convicted foreign rapists and murderers from our jails. Now that's change you can believe in.
You're answering my criticism of Trump with criticism of Democrats. That's a red herring.
After researching crime statistics in Texas, about the only thing I can find backing up your claim is that an alien committing a crime is indeed a criminal alien. Otherwise, I'd have to know your time frame and source.
Trump panders to fears with simplistic solutions to complicated problems, and he tells us we'll have to trust him on the details. Along the way he insults and mocks, while justifying demagoguery and xenophobia as just being non-politically correct. If that suits you and that's what you want from your President, fine. I think he is a self-serving narcissistic egomaniac who I want as far away from the Oval Office as possible.
Quote:I'm pretty sure almost everyone would agree with that. What I don't agree with is Trump's idea of banning Muslims from entering the country. In my opinion, and in the opinion of most people, that would be a very bad idea, because it would play into the hands of ISIS by telling 1.6 billion people from all over the world that they are not welcome here. ISIS has been trying to spread the idea that the United States is killing Muslims in the Middle East because we hate Muslims. If we ban Muslims, we play right into that. We cannot win the war on terror or defeat ISIS without allies in the Muslim world, and they will be very hard to recruit to our side if we have a ban on Muslims entering the US. If we ban Muslims from entering the country, then in the eyes of the world we're just a bunch of hypocrites who like to claim we have religious freedom, but in actuality, practice religious discrimination. That's why this whole idea is incredibly short sighted and stupid.
"I am in favor of banning all Muslims from entering the United States until our representatives figure out what the _____ Is going on" his major emphasis wasn't on a long term full scale ban of Muslims, it was on figuring out what the _______ Is going on. We have to have a system of affirmative verification for everyone that comes into this country. the current system of open borders and online applications is STUPID!
This idea that there is any rational provocation for terrorism is just plain silly. 1.6 billion people are told from birth that there is glory in bringing Jihad to the Infadel. That has nothing to do with Trump, Gingrich, Bush anyone. That's the Quran. If you discount that as the foundation for terrorism then that would be like a Mechanic changing you tires when your engine is blown.
In Turkey during a soccer game they promoted a moment of silence for the victims of the terror attack. That moment of silence was interrupted by chants of Alluh akbar. In paris they had rallies for Muslims against terrorism, i think 30 people showed up. In countries like saudi Arabia its still a crime for women to drive, still a crime to openly display paraphernalia from other faiths, its still a crime to openly proselytize against Islam, they still execute people based on a fundamental interpretation of Islam. We can't sit back twiddle our thumbs and wait for people who enable the radical belief system to do our work for us.
There are reform movements within the faith that are trying to omit shariah law and the call to offensive Jihad. Those are the best hope that we have to alleviate the problem without direct conflict, but they only have a chance if the Muslim world openly condemns the part of fundamental Islam that advocate violence against the "House of War." Those TRUE moderates point out that when you enable the belief system of so called moderates that still contains at its core a call to Jihad that you are in fact proliferating the call to Terror.
Quote:You're answering my criticism of Trump with criticism of Democrats. That's a red herring.
After researching crime statistics in Texas, about the only thing I can find backing up your claim is that an alien committing a crime is indeed a criminal alien. Otherwise, I'd have to know your time frame and source.
Trump panders to fears with simplistic solutions to complicated problems, and he tells us we'll have to trust him on the details. Along the way he insults and mocks, while justifying demagoguery and xenophobia as just being non-politically correct. If that suits you and that's what you want from your President, fine. I think he is a self-serving narcissistic egomaniac who I want as far away from the Oval Office as possible.
Yes, When someone here in this country illegally commits a crime they are by definition a criminal Illegal alien. The fundamental purpose of assembling government is to protect the citizens from all enemies foreign and domestic. We have a responsibility to protect the lives and property of those in border states and no matter what you say the current system isn't doing it and the proliferation of that system in the face of the real impact to the citizens of this country is to reject the main tenant of governance for some diseased blanket of moral relativism and INCLUSION.
Quote:Childish? Here's your boy...
Nobody has said anything even remotely like that, but your response is typical. He's playing to fears, stirring up the rabble. What he isn't doing is offering a reasonable solution in line with our values.
Well, my values, and those expressed by our founding fathers. Clearly, Trump's values are more self-serving.
Complex problems require complex solutions. Half this country thinks the simpler the solution the better the solution mostly because they simply cannot grasp the complexity of the situation. They don't do nuance.
Like the nuance of forcing people onto a website that doesnt work based on a bill no one read?
What about blaming terrorism on a video? Blaming it on climate change? Yes yes. Thats tge type of sharp creased intilectualism that makes the world go round.
Ofcourse those blow hard billionaire international businessmen dont know anything about attention to detail.
The sad part is that the loudest people conplaining about nuance dont know the basic common law exceptions to the doctrine of jus soli, have no idea what glass stegal was, dont understand the establishment clause, dont know the details of barrack obamas legal career and think fannie mae is a blm activist.
In reality its the left that doesnt want to engage in robust reasoned debate on specific issues because based on the record they have plainly failed.
We have been pumping hundreds of billions of dollars into the economy annually through fiscal policy trillions annually through easing monetary policy and had an effective zero funds rate for the better part of a decade. Suprise suprise we still dont have an economic utopia. That is the empirical failure of keynsian economics but the lefts only retort is "well at least were not meany pants" and trump is the one who lacks nuance?
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