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Quote:how are all these people seeing Justin Blackmon out in public lol


lol. yeah. in "publics" plural.. get it? like different public places and publics is like s homonym for "publix"? Smile


clever, huh?
Quote:Saw JUstin Blackmon at Publix with about 30 cases of water and about 76 Ribeye Steaks and 45 lbs of Shrimp...Said he was going on a Shrimp, Steak, and Water cleanse (aka First Coast Diet aka Surf, Turf, Flood diet). Said he is ready to play and will probably get in Contact with Bortles soon. Also said he'd like to be more involved with community, Jaguars message board, and have a few pints of milk with Ryan O.


Looking forward to his progress.


I saw Blackmon at Publix too, he said he was 91% ready to return.
Quote:Saw JUstin Blackmon at Publix with about 30 cases of water and about 76 Ribeye Steaks and 45 lbs of Shrimp...Said he was going on a Shrimp, Steak, and Water cleanse (aka First Coast Diet aka Surf, Turf, Flood diet). Said he is ready to play and will probably get in Contact with Bortles soon. Also said he'd like to be more involved with community, Jaguars message board, and have a few pints of milk with Ryan O.


Looking forward to his progress.


The part about the message board makes me think this is fake
Quote:i wonder why players don't shop at Winn Dixie? They must love those BOGOs.
because winn dixie is trash and people with money dont go there
Quote:The part about the message board makes me think this is fake
The message board sets you off but not the pints of milk with Ryan O?
Not sure I believe anyone saying they saw Blackmon. But if they did....cool story bro
Think he'll make it back
Quote:I saw Blackmon at Publix too, he said he was 91% ready to return.


Was he buying pancakes?
Quote:The part about the message board makes me think this is fake
was that the only part?
Quote:The message board sets you off but not the pints of milk with Ryan O?


Well he can't have beer so I believe what JB said.
Quote:Was he buying pancakes?
 

He was...and grapes. Lots of grapes...

 

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Quote: But I think he's capable of being a solid 2:1 or sometimes 3:1 TD/INT ratio type of QB that flirts with 4,000 yards passing each year. As long as Robinson, Lee, and Hurns can stay healthy I think this group will be efficient enough.
I think this prediction (with a 2:1 ratio) is realistic for his 2nd and 3rd year. He's a big play QB who can surprise defenses and is hard to gameplan for, and he will be relied on enough to carry the offense that he could easily post 3500-4000 yards on volume alone. But he'll lose the mental battle from time to time at this point in his career because he doesn't yet know what to expect from pro defenses (not everyone is Andrew Luck and walks into the league knowing how to read the defense at the line and pre-plan the play down to your third or fourth option.)


Then after that anything can happen. He has the drive to become a cleaner QB but he also has a lot of bad habits and not everyone learns how to correct the kinds of problems he has, so it's just dependent on how much that is cleaned up whether or not he ascends.


Ceiling: Ben Roethlisberger

Floor: Josh Freeman

Most Likely Outcome: Daunte Culpepper


Seem fair? Yes? No?
The main legitimate concern of mine is that if Bortles doesn't fix those mechanics, we may have a Kaepernick type situation come year 4, where we're gonna have to overpay him to resign him, despite the fact that he's kind of plateaued and opposing teams are getting better at attacking his weaknesses.


But I believe in him, because he knows this is a very possible outcome as well as any of us, and that's why he's in Cali right now working on it.
Quote:Most Likely Outcome: Daunte Culpepper


Seem fair? Yes? No?
Hmmm...

 

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/pl...lpDa00.htm

 

A three time Pro Bowler?

 

Three seasons of 3800 yards passing or more.

 

Two seasons of 30 TDs or more?

 

Not bad.

 

Not great...but not bad.

 

I would hope he would do it for longer, and more often than Culpepper, with better W-L results.
I always got the sense that Culpepper's career was cut short because of his conditioning. He seemed to be out of shape and it impacted his play after the knee injury in 2005.

Quote:I always got the sense that Culpepper's career was cut short because of his conditioning. He seemed to be out of shape and it impacted his play after the knee injury in 2005.
I got the sense part of it was due to conditioning, but part of it was due to him acting as his own agent and alienating the Vikings and other teams in contract deals.

 

I dunno.  Either way it was odd that his career was as short as it was.
Quote:I think this prediction (with a 2:1 ratio) is realistic for his 2nd and 3rd year. He's a big play QB who can surprise defenses and is hard to gameplan for, and he will be relied on enough to carry the offense that he could easily post 3500-4000 yards on volume alone. But he'll lose the mental battle from time to time at this point in his career because he doesn't yet know what to expect from pro defenses (not everyone is Andrew Luck and walks into the league knowing how to read the defense at the line and pre-plan the play down to your third or fourth option.)


Then after that anything can happen. He has the drive to become a cleaner QB but he also has a lot of bad habits and not everyone learns how to correct the kinds of problems he has, so it's just dependent on how much that is cleaned up whether or not he ascends.


Ceiling: Ben Roethlisberger

Floor: Josh Freeman

Most Likely Outcome: Daunte Culpepper


Seem fair? Yes? No?
Fair enough.

I see him turning out more like a poor man's Favre - during the "intercepty" years.

Fun to watch - wins some games - costs them some games too.
Quote:I got the sense part of it was due to conditioning, but part of it was due to him acting as his own agent and alienating the Vikings and other teams in contract deals.

 

I dunno.  Either way it was odd that his career was as short as it was.
 

Especially when you consider during the 2000 season, it looked like he would the NFL's next superstar QB. After they got stomped by the Giants in the NFC Championship Game, it sort of went down hill from there aside from 2004.

 

I remember when he got traded to Miami, the big deal that was made. What a big bust.

Quote:Fair enough.

I see him turning out more like a poor man's Favre - during the "intercepty" years.

Fun to watch - wins some games - costs them some games too.
 

Agree.

 

But 77s comparison to Josh Freeman?  Really?

 

Freeman was a dunce who couldn't learn the NFL game.  Bortles is anything but.

 

He's got the gunslinger mentality of Favre for sure.  Luck throws his share of picks he shouldn't, too... so I see a bit of that as well.

Quote:Especially when you consider during the 2000 season, it looked like he would the NFL's next superstar QB. After they got stomped by the Giants in the NFC Championship Game, it sort of went down hill from there aside from 2004.

 

I remember when he got traded to Miami, the big deal that was made. What a big bust.
 

I'm not trying to knock him too much, but he did have a pretty ideal situation with the offensive weapons around him in Minnesota.  A lot of pitch and fetch to some extremely talented receivers.

 

2000 was his only winning season.  Every other was .500 or worse.  I remember their defense being pretty good, too... so not sure what the issue was with winning.
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