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Throw a quick out, or fool them and hit the seam for a home run to win the game. There were a few options that could have had them guessing that could be run in 12 seconds.


I think it's possible to get something in twelve seconds. At least so Scobee doesn't have to kick it so low to try and get some distance.

Quote:Throw a quick out, or fool them and hit the seam for a home run to win the game. There were a few options that could have had them guessing that could be run in 12 seconds.


I think it's possible to get something in twelve seconds. At least so Scobee doesn't have to kick it so low to try and get some distance.

Throw down the seam with 12 seconds left and no timeouts.


Sound strategy.

Quote:Throw down the seam with 12 seconds left and no timeouts.


Sound strategy.

 

I disagree with the seam idea....but a sideline play for about 10 yards was do-able and would have been attempted by 31 other NFL teams in the exact same situation. 

Quote:I disagree with the seam idea....but a sideline play for about 10 yards was do-able and would have been attempted by 31 other NFL teams in the exact same situation.

Titans would've never expected this. It's already bad enough that Fisch doesn't want to stretch the field vertically, but now you're telegraphing the exact coordinates of where the ball is going. They either A) pick it off B make the tackle in bounds C) sack Bortles or D) we throw it away and attempt the FG that was blocked because our OL is too soft. The game was already lost, we shouldn't have to count on onside kicks to keep us in the game. At the end of this season, you of all people will appreciate our better draft position.

At the end of the day, I much rather the ball in Bortles' hands and live with the result, than the coaches. Only way they'll grow, right now....could live with an INT, if push comes to shove

At least we didn't miss a short field goal like the Bengals did.  

Quote:I disagree with the seam idea....but a sideline play for about 10 yards was do-able and would have been attempted by 31 other NFL teams in the exact same situation.

Disagree. I have plenty of gripes with Gus about today's game, but the decision to kick it there is not one of them. A good chunk of Blake's INTs this year have been out routes. You go for another play there and every defender on the field as well as every cousin-lovin tack fan in the stands knows what the route is going to be. Knows what the route has to be. They could just sit there on the sideline waiting to break.


Imagine this board right now if the rook squandered this miracle comeback with a INT right there. Or if One of our inexperienced olinemen forgot how to block (as they are prone to do) and Blake took a sack.

Quote:Titans would've never expected this. It's already bad enough that Fisch doesn't want to stretch the field vertically, but now you're telegraphing the exact coordinates of where the ball is going. They either A) pick it off B make the tackle in bounds C) sack Bortles or D) we throw it away and attempt the FG that was blocked because our OL is too soft. The game was already lost, we shouldn't have to count on onside kicks to keep us in the game. At the end of this season, you of all people will appreciate our better draft position.

 

LOL, the play I'm suggesting happens all the time in the said situation. Very rarely is it picked off. 

 

Its not always completed, but you gotta try for more yards in that situation. Only a jackass settles for a 55 yard FG in that situation on 3rd down. And one did. 

Quote:Disagree. I have plenty of gripes with Gus about today's game, but the decision to kick it there is not one of them. A good chunk of Blake's INTs this year have been out routes. You go for another play there and every defender on the field as well as every cousin-lovin tack fan in the stands knows what the route is going to be. Knows what the route has to be. They could just sit there on the sideline waiting to break.


Imagine this board right now if the rook squandered this miracle comeback with a INT right there. Or if One of our inexperienced olinemen forgot how to block (as they are prone to do) and Blake took a sack.

 

A 55 yard FG is a low percentage kick. Were not talking even a 40 yarder here. Its funny how people's mindset is that since Scobee has kicked 55 yarders before so its almost like they look at it as an automatic. LOL....dum da dum dum DUMB!!!

Quote:A 55 yard FG is a low percentage kick. Were not talking even a 40 yarder here. Its funny how people's mindset is that since Scobee has kicked 55 yarders before so its almost like they look at it as an automatic. LOL....dum da dum dum DUMB!!!

Scobee is a top 5 kicker. Doesn't have the #s because we've been struggling to pass midfield in the Ghenne Era. If our OL wasn't getting pushed backwards 5 yards every play, Scobee could've made it from 60

Quote:A 55 yard FG is a low percentage kick. Were not talking even a 40 yarder here. Its funny how people's mindset is that since Scobee has kicked 55 yarders before so its almost like they look at it as an automatic. LOL....dum da dum dum DUMB!!!

LOL it's funny that you assume that you know what everybody thinks.


I don't think Scobee would have made it from 55, I'm not even sure he would have made it from 45.


But I support trying there rather than risking a potential INT, sacks, tackle in-bounds or any other scenario where you don't even get a crack at it. And your rookie QB is the goat that spoiled a great comeback.

Long Ding could've made that FG

I get why they didn't take another shot at the sidelines.  They got lucky with the Hurns catch.  Scobee has made from that distance before.  Honestly with our kicking game I probably would have done the same thing.  Then squib kick to drain the clock and you're done.  

Quote:With a 3 man rush? Then it's your qbs fault. You line up for a hail Mary and throw it short and run out of bounds

 

Which one is it? Is it line up to get closer for a FG? Or are you advocating a high-risk/low completion rate hail mary to win the game? Gus, for all his faults in this game, made the right call on this one. We had 12 seconds and no timeouts.

 

All the defense needs to do is sit on the routes that would stop clock (flat, outs) and Blake would likely be forced to make a throw he doesn't want to make (in the middle of the field where a tackle ends the game) or worse...force a throw on these "short and run out of bounds" plays as the defense waits for a pick 6.

Quote:I disagree with the seam idea....but a sideline play for about 10 yards was do-able and would have been attempted by 31 other NFL teams in the exact same situation.

You're full of crap. That's a 50/50 call. I absolutely understood the logic. Would I PERSONALLY have gone for a few more yards? Yes. To say something as stupid as '31 other teams would have done it' is a complete crock and so very you.

Quote:Look at the video on NFL.com. Hurns was off balance after the catch. No way he could have done anything but step out of bounds.

 

Yep, initially I thought the same. But you watch his momentum after the catch (he must have taken at least 3 steps out of bounds to get to a stopping point), and I don't think he could have been able to stop, turn, then change direction to get out of bounds.

Quote:A 55 yard FG is a low percentage kick. Were not talking even a 40 yarder here. Its funny how people's mindset is that since Scobee has kicked 55 yarders before so its almost like they look at it as an automatic. LOL....dum da dum dum DUMB!!!

 

A 55 yard FG is a low percentage kick, you're right. But it is still a lower risk play than trying to pick up extra 5 yards with no timeouts left and only 12 seconds in the game.

Quote:Throw down the seam with 12 seconds left and no timeouts.


Sound strategy.

Vanilla play calling lands us where we are today.

Quote:A 55 yard FG is a low percentage kick. Were not talking even a 40 yarder here. Its funny how people's mindset is that since Scobee has kicked 55 yarders before so its almost like they look at it as an automatic. LOL....dum da dum dum DUMB!!!

Yeah. I mean it's not like Scobee has a good track record on long kicks. If he'd made, say, 80% of his 50+ yard field goals last year (that's 4 out of 5, for those who can't count or have an aversion to fact checking) then maybe we should have tried it, am I right?

I mean, it's not like he's ever made a 55 yarder before...

Quote:No timeouts, if the player is tackled inbounds or Bortles is sacked its game over.  Lots of coaching decisions to question today, this isn't one of them.

This is the correct answer. If you have a different opinion, then its wrong.