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Quote:Vanilla play calling lands us where we are today.

A seam route with no time and no timeouts isn't vanilla, its suicidal.

Quote:You had 12 seconds to try to pick up more yardage.

 

Bradley's so incompetent sometimes it hurts my very fingertips as I type this.

 

....and 24 hours later, it was still a terrible decision by Bradley. 

 

It cost Bortles 4th Quarter comeback #1. 

Quote:LOL, the play I'm suggesting happens all the time in the said situation. 

 

When was the last time?

Quote:....and 24 hours later, it was still a terrible decision by Bradley. 

 

It cost Bortles 4th Quarter comeback #1.

So more time doesnt make you realize that you're wrong. Its still the right call on 3rd down with no timeouts.

If it was second down we would have possibly, just possibly had another play so we could spike it if we didn't get out of bounds. , as it stands any sack and we lose the game, this was definitely the right call.

Do you trust a rookie QB surrounded by rookie skill players to not make a mistake just to gain a couple of yards, or do you put it on the shoulders of your veteran kicker who has 80% accuracy from that range?

 

That's a no brainer. Every coach in the NFL makes that same call.

Quote:....and 24 hours later, it was still a terrible decision by Bradley. 

 

It cost Bortles 4th Quarter comeback #1. 

I'll never understand why the mods keep letting this guy come back.   It the same shtick time after time.  Do I wish it had been a shorter kick.  Sure.  Was sending Scobee out to try the FG on third down with 12 seconds left and no time outs the right call?  Absolutely.  

 

The tacks had 6 sacks as I recall, many of them with only a 4 man rush.   Had they run a play on third down and gotten sacked or tackled in bounds and time expired with no FG attempt, the diva would be on here talking about how bad a decision that was.   Either way he'd be advancing his agenda.      

Quote:Do you trust a rookie QB surrounded by rookie skill players to not make a mistake just to gain a couple of yards, or do you put it on the shoulders of your veteran kicker who has 80% accuracy from that range?

 

That's a no brainer. Every coach in the NFL makes that same call.

 

Dude, no other coach in the NFL makes that decision.  You run 1 play where the QB has the option to throw it away if there's too much pressure or if something goes wrong.  For crying out loud, keep a RB in there for protection so he can be "in the area" if the qb needs to ground it.  Call a roll out and throw a 10 yard sideline route.  If it's not there throw it away and kick on 4th down.

 

The call to run an extra play is not a hard one.  The only people who think it was the right call are the ones who do not question ANY decision the Jags make.  I admire the loyalty, but seriously, it was a dumb call.

Quote:Dude, no other coach in the NFL makes that decision.  You run 1 play where the QB has the option to throw it away if there's too much pressure or if something goes wrong.  For crying out loud, keep a RB in there for protection so he can be "in the area" if the qb needs to ground it.  Call a roll out and throw a 10 yard sideline route.  If it's not there throw it away and kick on 4th down.

 

The call to run an extra play is not a hard one.  The only people who think it was the right call are the ones who do not question ANY decision the Jags make.  I admire the loyalty, but seriously, it was a dumb call.

 

And if there is a false start or holding on the play and you get out of field goal range, you would have said that was a dumb call.

Quote:And if there is a false start or holding on the play and you get out of field goal range, you would have said that was a dumb call.

 

No, I would've said it was a stupid play by the players.  Have you ever seen a similar decision to this though?  55 yarders aren't exactly gimmies.  10 more yards makes a gigantic difference. 

Quote:You had 12 seconds to try to pick up more yardage.

 

Bradley's so incompetent sometimes it hurts my very fingertips as I type this.

Agreed that was a huge blunder along with the challange mess up in time mgmt, but he's learning too... and he took accountablility for his mistakes...

I think he's improving as a HC along with the other young team...

Quote:No, I would've said it was a stupid play by the players.  Have you ever seen a similar decision to this though?  55 yarders aren't exactly gimmies.  10 more yards makes a gigantic difference. 

 

I honestly can't think of any specific examples close to this situation from Sunday. I really don't know which way most coaches would go.

 

I do know that is a damned if you do, damned if you don't type situation.

Quote:Dude, no other coach in the NFL makes that decision.  You run 1 play where the QB has the option to throw it away if there's too much pressure or if something goes wrong.  For crying out loud, keep a RB in there for protection so he can be "in the area" if the qb needs to ground it.  Call a roll out and throw a 10 yard sideline route.  If it's not there throw it away and kick on 4th down.

 

The call to run an extra play is not a hard one.  The only people who think it was the right call are the ones who do not question ANY decision the Jags make.  I admire the loyalty, but seriously, it was a dumb call.

 

LOL, isn't it amazing how they still are defending this obviously HORRIBLE decisions by Bradley here??? :wacko:

 

You are 100% correct. No other head coach in this league is making that decision to kick the FG there on 3rd down before taking one more attempt to get closer. A 55 yarder is not a chip shot. Its a low percentage attempt. 

Quote:LOL, isn't it amazing how they still are defending this obviously HORRIBLE decisions by Bradley here??? :wacko:


You are 100% correct. No other head coach in this league is making that decision to kick the FG there on 3rd down before taking one more attempt to get closer. A 55 yarder is not a chip shot. Its a low percentage attempt.

If it was any other kicker I would agree. But Scobee has proven to be clutch when it comes down to game winning field goals.


I would trust Scobee to make the game winning 55 yarder over trusting this young offense to play one more mistake free snap. One false start, sack, bad route/questionable throw combo and its game over.

Quote:If it was any other kicker I would agree. But Scobee has proven to be clutch when it comes down to game winning field goals.


I would trust Scobee to make the game winning 55 yarder over trusting this young offense to play one more mistake free snap. One false start, sack, bad route/questionable throw combo and its game over.

 

Scobee isn't even the best Kicker in the league. Even with the best Kicker in the league you don't settle for the 55 yarder with that much time left on the clock and 3rd down. You don't settle for a low percentage kick like that until its the LAST resort (i.e. 4th down and/ or not enough time to run another play). 

 

Bradley's decision lost that game Sunday. Theres no getting around it. 

Quote:Scobee isn't even the best Kicker in the league. Even with the best Kicker in the league you don't settle for the 55 yarder with that much time left on the clock and 3rd down. You don't settle for a low percentage kick like that until its the LAST resort (i.e. 4th down and/ or not enough time to run another play). 

 

Bradley's decision lost that game Sunday. Theres no getting around it. 

 

It didn't lose the game. Quit being so overdramatic.

Quote:Scobee isn't even the best Kicker in the league. Even with the best Kicker in the league you don't settle for the 55 yarder with that much time left on the clock and 3rd down. You don't settle for a low percentage kick like that until its the LAST resort (i.e. 4th down and/ or not enough time to run another play).


Bradley's decision lost that game Sunday. Theres no getting around it.

An that's the real issue there, and what people seem to be confusing. He SETTLED for 55. All possibilities in effect some see the good and bad but it's the fact that Most here I would assume would trust Bortles to make a wise decision with the ball and at worst throw it away with time left. If there were 6 seconds left, sure. Even the play before was a prime example of having a worthy play. But it's in the past. Hopefully they all live and learn from this

Quote:An that's the real issue there, and what people seem to be confusing. He SETTLED for 55. All possibilities in effect some see the good and bad but it's the fact that Most here I would assume would trust Bortles to make a wise decision with the ball and at worst throw it away with time left. If there were 6 seconds left, sure. Even the play before was a prime example of having a worthy play. But it's in the past. Hopefully they all live and learn from this

 

 

Yep. Its not difficult to see. 

Hurns had plenty of room to gain at least 10 more yrds. We had zero time outs. We run another play and bortles gets sacked we don't have an opportunity for a field goal or hailmary at that point.

Quote:Bradley's decision lost that game Sunday. Theres no getting around it.

You're absolutely correct. It had nothing to do with Hurns falling on the INT, or Shorts fumbling on the previous drive, or Todman not holding onto a pass that hit him right in the hands.


None of that mattered.