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Quote:Did you not realize that Henne has NEVER started all 16 games in a season?

Yes, but he has played a 14 game season, two 15 game seasons, and one 13 game season. He's a lot more reliable than Michael Vick.

Quote:People are clueless.

Don't misunderstand the point of those not wanting Henne back. For me it has nothing to do with monetary considerations. I simply feel that he is not a good enough QB to have at any price, including league minimum. I would rather have a unknown quantity to come in instead of Henne. I don't want him on the team in any capacity. The monetary value of the position as ALTjag pointed out is what it is and that is what a back-up will command.

Quote:Don't sleep on #11...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

BWAHAHAHAHA :teehee:

I think #11 has slept on #11. 

Quote:Yes. He is. Vick has started a full season once in his career. Almost every single game in 2012 he was dinged up, and played average with an amazing offense. On the jaguars he'd be mediocre. Henne on the Eagles could win 8 games. Bet.

 

XD.  No, Henne could not win the Eagles 8 games.  None of our wins this year can be attributed to Henne.  He threw for a total of 13 touchdowns.  And 14 interceptions.  Maybe if the Eagles had the same schedule as the Jaguars, he'd win more games.  But our wins came against:


-The fallen Texans x2

-The Titans

-Weeden Led Browns

Quote:Yes, but he has played a 14 game season, two 15 game seasons, and two 13 game seaons. He's a lot more reliable than Michael Vick.

 

If you want to use the word reliable that's fine, but he's not better than Michael Vick.

Quote:If you want to use the word reliable that's fine, but he's not better than Michael Vick.

I disagree.

Quote:I disagree.

 

Deep argument right there. 

Quote:I disagree.

 

That's fine, we'll agree to disagree, however I'd like to know, in your opinion; what does Chad Henne do better than Michael Vick?

Quote:The market price for experienced veteran QBs, who can step in and give quality starts, is higher than most on this board realize.


Henne, with his starting-triggered incentives, realized about $3.6m per year over the past two seasons with the Jags. Matt Cassel received about $3.7 in 2013 (that contained a $2m signing bonus for the 2 year deal), and Matt Moore has a $4m per year deal (that contained a $3m signing bonus for the 2 year deal).


Unfortunately, if the Jags want to sign Henne, his market price is likely in the $3.5-4.0m range per year (and will likely have a signing bonus of around $2-3m if it is a 2 year deal). You won't get him to sign a near minimum vet deal of around $800-900k per year, and will be offered significantly more elsewhere. This market is actually pretty well established.

 

"Quality starts"

 

That's rich, dude, you ought to take this act on the road. :teehee:

Quote:Deep argument right there. 

 

I think he's thinking about Marcus Vick

Quote:That's fine, we'll agree to disagree, however I'd like to know, in your opinion; what does Chad Henne do better than Michael Vick?

What does Chad Henne do better than Michael Vick? Well, let's see.

 

Michael Vick has had one season above 59% completion. Henne has had 3 in 5 less seasons. 

 

He plays in many more games than Michael Vick.

 

Chad Henne has consistently had 200+ yards a game over his 5 seasons, which Michael Vick has had trouble doing. Why would you want a QB and can't consistently throw for over 200 yards a game?

 

Michael Vick has consistently played bad with arguably the one of the best offenses in the NFL.

 

Chad Henne has done this with the Jaguars.

 

Need more?

Quote:Deep argument right there. 

The more you post the more you make yourself look like a 3rd grader.

Quote:What does Chad Henne do better than Michael Vick? Well, let's see.

 

Michael Vick has had one season above 59% completion. Henne has had 3 in 5 less seasons. 

 

He plays in many more games than Michael Vick.

 

Chad Henne has consistently had 200+ yards a game over his 5 seasons, which Michael Vick has had trouble doing. Why would you want a QB and can't consistently throw for over 200 yards a game?

 

Michael Vick has consistently played bad with arguably the one of the best offenses in the NFL.

 

Chad Henne has done this with the Jaguars.

 

Need more?

 

Only on the Jaguars message board would you find someone thick enough to argue that Henne is better than a 4 time pro bowler who has a passer rating over 90 in 6 playoff games.

Quote:What does Chad Henne do better than Michael Vick? Well, let's see.

 

Michael Vick has had one season above 59% completion. Henne has had 3 in 5 less seasons. 

 

He plays in many more games than Michael Vick.

 

Chad Henne has consistently had 200+ yards a game over his 5 seasons, which Michael Vick has had trouble doing. Why would you want a QB and can't consistently throw for over 200 yards a game?

 

Michael Vick has consistently played bad with arguably the one of the best offenses in the NFL.

 

Chad Henne has done this with the Jaguars.

 

Need more?

 

 

Lol wow,  if you truly believe Chad Henne is better than Michael Vick, there's no point in discussing football with you; you're either not being honest, or simply don't have  a clue.

You guys can argue until you're blue in the face, but the fact is, we're not hiring Michael Vick.  

Quote:You guys can argue until you're blue in the face, but the fact is, we're not hiring Michael Vick.  

 

That's not what we're discussing.

Henne over Vick!?! Now that's comedy lol!!. He's only a few inches better than Gabbert. Need I say more?

If we are talking about a guy that can come in and hold the ship down and be reliable for as many number of weeks as need be the answer is henne. If youre swinging for a guy that may show you he could be a stud starter twice a year its Vick. Henne is worth all that 3 million. If you want to go get a back up how bout the kid thats backed up Brady for three years that should have been a first rounder. Ill take mallet all day instead of drafting one trade a 3 rd pick for him.

I don't think Henne will be back, the market for back-up QB services will be bigger than what most are thinking. 

Henne better than Vick?? C'mon man.


You can argue durability, but that's it. Just because henne is more likely to get through an entire season doesn't make him better than Vick.


To argue differently is being disingenuous. You're better than that, Tommy