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Quote:The fact that Seattle has felt zero negative impact from losing Gus Bradley just convinces me he had little or nothing to do with Seattle's defensive success in the first place.

 

 

That's ridiculous.  Successful teams lose coordinators all the time and don't take a step back.  For example, did Indy feel any negative impact from losing Bruce Arians?   

I could help but feel like I was watching a better version of the 07 Jags and I have my suspicions that that sort of football just isn't built to last as you have to rely on a bunch of guys staying healthy rather than just a QB.

 

I did enjoy a good old fashioned game of bruising playoff football though.

Quote:Not really. Not at all. Seattle is not winning or making any SB's if they play like that next week. The passing game was horrible for the Seahawks and that Saints D isn't all that tough. 

 

Defensive games are like watching paint dry. 

 

Umm..the Saints defense has the fourth lowest yards per game against in the NFL.  Second in fewest passing yards per game against.  They had MORE sacks then Seattle's defense.

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Defensive games are like watching paint dry. 

 

Great.  Thanks for being the type of fan that caused all of these rules that favor the offense.

Quote:That's ridiculous.  Successful teams lose coordinators all the time and don't take a step back.  For example, did Indy feel any negative impact from losing Bruce Arians?   

 

Actually, yes. Especially early on. 

Quote:Great.  Thanks for being the type of fan that caused all of these rules that favor the offense.

 

Oh, well. Its here now. So you can either get with the times, or continue to try and build the team the wrong way, as if the football era was from the last century or something. 

Quote:Umm..the Saints defense has the fourth lowest yards per game against in the NFL.  Second in fewest passing yards per game against.  They had MORE sacks then Seattle's defense.

 

Was not impressed at all with Seattles offense vs the Saints yesterday. Especially the passing offense. If thats what we are trying to emulate, then its going to be another boring regime. 

Quote:Was not impressed at all with Seattles offense vs the Saints yesterday. Especially the passing offense. If thats what we are trying to emulate, then its going to be another boring regime. 

 

The Saints defense is far weaker versus the run than the pass.  Knowing that, would you try to pass the ball more?  I agree that Seattle's passing game looked bad, but my point is, the Saints are actually very good against the pass.

Quote:The Saints defense is far weaker versus the run than the pass.  Knowing that, would you try to pass the ball more?  I agree that Seattle's passing game looked bad, but my point is, the Saints are actually very good against the pass.

 

I hear ya, but the Saints pass defense isn't exactly going to be confused with the 1991 Buddy Ryan/ Bud Carson all time defense here...its decent, but the Seahawks passing offense was flat out unimpressive yesterday - actually thats how its been for a good part of this season, and IMO will ultimately be a major contributing factor to why they do not win it all again this season. 

I'd honestly rather be New England South. Players come and go, defensive and offensive schemes change, but one thing remains the same. Belichek always has his team ready to play ball. They've been the most successful franchise in the last decade without question. I want that model.

Quote:I'd honestly rather be New England South. Players come and go, defensive and offensive schemes change, but one thing remains the same. Belichek always has his team ready to play ball. They've been the most successful franchise in the last decade without question. I want that model.

 

 

I agree. Look at the Patriots. Time goes on and yet here they are. Again. 

 

Sadly, guess who's likely to head down that path?....the team that just hired O Brien. 

I'd be cool with a Seattle-like defense. Offense? Eh, not so much. Not a fan of it, plus Russell Wilson is pretty unique to it. It would be very hard to find a QB  like him.

Seattle plays aggressive defense which I love, but I'm hoping our offense has more playmakers making explosive plays. Marshawn Lynch carried that team yesterday. With a lesser RB, they would have lost.

Offense can get you to the playoffs, but defense still wins championships. This is why the Broncos won't win.

Quote:Offense can get you to the playoffs, but defense still wins championships. This is why the Broncos won't win.

 

The Broncos [BLEEP] defense is only one of the reasons they won't win. Peyton usually is a choker come playoff time. Thats a bigger reason than the defense. Defense does not win Championships (anymore), or else Seattle or San Francisco would have won a SB by now. 

Quote:The Broncos [BAD WORD REMOVED] defense is only one of the reasons they won't win. Peyton usually is a choker come playoff time. Thats a bigger reason than the defense. Defense does not win Championships (anymore), or else Seattle or San Francisco would have won a SB by now.

You should go tell Coughlin to retire then. Harbaughs should too. Might want to inform Tomlin as well. And whoever wins the Super Bowl this year with the better defense. Let 'em know they didn't earn it and should reject it. If defense doesn't win championships then I assume you're predicting the Pats or the Broncos to win it all?

Nope.  This team is a long ways away from being anything close to what Seattle has built.

Quote:You should go tell Coughlin to retire then. Harbaughs should too. Might want to inform Tomlin as well. And whoever wins the Super Bowl this year with the better defense. Let 'em know they didn't earn it and should reject it. If defense doesn't win championships then I assume you're predicting the Pats or the Broncos to win it all?

 

A phrase like "defense wins championships" is antiquated in the current NFL. Thats doesn't mean that you can win with a garbage defense, just that its no longer the most important aspect of winning as it may have been back in the prehistoric NFL. An offense that can make big plays consistently is the more important part of the equation nowadays. A "good" defense simply falls in line with other necessary needs for a SB team such as good special teams, a reliable FG kicker, and a decent running game. 

Quote:A phrase like "defense wins championships" is antiquated in the current NFL. Thats doesn't mean that you can win with a garbage defense, just that its no longer the most important aspect of winning as it may have been back in the prehistoric NFL. An offense that can make big plays consistently is the more important part of the equation nowadays. A "good" defense simply falls in line with other necessary needs for a SB team such as good special teams, a reliable FG kicker, and a decent running game.

A good offense will consistently get you into the postseason as you outscore lesser teams throughout the season, but defense is the deciding factor in the playoffs as most teams who make it into the postseason have a respectable offense.

Quote:Actually, yes. Especially early on. 

 

 

Okay, then, how about Mike McCoy?    Denver lost him last offseason, and they set all sorts of records without him.