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Quote:Brady led drives to 4 (5?)TD and 40 something points. No, he doesn't suck. 

But the numbers were disgustingly low.  I thought that was the point - or are you changing that to suit your Wilson bashing agenda?  

Quote:But the numbers were disgustingly low.  I thought that was the point - or are you changing that to suit your Wilson bashing agenda?  

 

Brady's numbers weren't nearly as bad as Russell's, first of all, and had Seattle scored FORTY something points like the Patriots did, I wouldn't be ripping Russell. The Hawks struggled just to score a measley 23. 

Quote:But the numbers were disgustingly low.  I thought that was the point - or are you changing that to suit your Wilson bashing agenda?

Brady for the most part led them down into situations where they could take advantage of Blunts physical nature (not a shot at Blount) cause he was out standing.

Some interesting debates going on here.

 

 

About our passing game. Seahawks fans also complain a lot about it over last 5 games (after week 13 game against Sains). Most of us think it's Bevell's playcalling, but it's also true, Wilson isn't the same as before. They need to figure out quickly, what's going on and we need to get much better against San Fran.

 

I think strong wind and Carroll's "obsession" with ball security also played a role in Saturdays game. When we take the lead, Carroll just didn't want to risk too much. Regardless, 2nd half offense wasn't good enough. We should decide the game sooner.

 

Overall, Wilson will never have passing yards as Brees, Brady or even Luck, because we have great defense, running game and ST and he don't have to do that much. But he can win a game, when that is required from him. He already proved that a couple of times.

 

 

Quote:After seeing how good Seattle's Defense has played this year without Gus Bradley and their former DL coach, it makes me wonder how much of the success was from those two coaches & maybe just from the talent & other coaches ( or it could be that they remember the stuff Gus taught them).....

Just a thought I had

 

Gus Bradley and now Dan Quinn both did a very good job as defensive coordinators, but at the end of the day this is Pete Carroll's defense.

 

 

Quote:Russell Wilson consistently wins games.   Wilson's multi-dimensional skills also makes the Seahawks running game better,  which in turn aids their Defense,  The bottom line is regardless of Wilson's stats the other day,  he was the winning QB and is 6 days away from playing for the opportunity to go to the Super Bowl.   He must be doing plenty right.  

 

While I rate Andrew Luck higher than all of the other young QB's in the NFL,    it's easy to appreciate the skills and intangibles Russell Wilson brings to the table.   He's w/o a doubt the one player the Seahawks can't afford to lose,   though Richard Sherman is the closest thing to that on the Defensive Side of the ball.

 

I'd say Earl Thomas. Because of his range we can play the defensive scheme we play. Sherm is great, but I think it would be harder to find a replacement for ET than Sherm.

 

Quote:Harbaugh may be a great coach but lets not pretend he didn't walk into a gem of a roster situation. Very similar to Andy Reid with the Chiefs this year. He is a good coach but he also had a good starting roster to work with.

I'm not as familiar with the Seahawks roster when Carroll took over.

 

C Max Unger, DE Red Bryant (he wasn't good at DT and was almost cut, but then he starts playing run-stopping DE) and punter Jon Ryan are the only players left on current roster from before Carroll era.

 

I agree about Harbaugh and SF.

No, but what the Jaguars are doing excites me.  You can never compare apples and oranges. 

The same people bashing Russell Wilson would be happy to trade away this year's first round pick or anyone we draft with it for that matter for him.

Quote:The same people bashing Russell Wilson would be happy to trade away this year's first round pick or anyone we draft with it for that matter for him.

 

Not me. Bridgewater will be better. Manziel may be as well. Clowney at his position at least has the potential to be a much better player at DE than Wilson is at QB. 

Quote:I get what you are saying... but it's hard for me to do when I see the standings the past couple of years and see them at or near the top because of those guys and we are at or near the bottom. Kinda hard for me to do when I see them on my TV with home field advantage in the playoffs as I type this while my Jaguars are not playing until next season.

I feel you on that man. But I feel like the Jags will get back to it's greatness sooner than what we think.

I believe we really a Franchise QB away from greatness to be straight honest.

Quote:I feel you on that man. But I feel like the Jags will get back to it's greatness sooner than what we think.
I believe we really a Franchise QB away from greatness to be straight honest.

Doesn't every fan base feel that way?

Quote:ah, I stand corrected. They do. But Harbaugh is still better than Carroll, as he's won 5 in since 2011, which was his first year. 

 

And when Harbaugh wins again this year, it will mark the 3rd time under Carroll that Seattle made the playoffs but couldn't pass one win in a playoff year. 

 

You can't stand without being corrected.

 

BTW... Harbaugh has the smallest margin of victory, too.  That means so much when talking about the Jags coaches, but when it's brought up about Harbaugh and how he's won by the skin of his teeth...

 

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Quote:But the numbers were disgustingly low.  I thought that was the point - or are you changing that to suit your Wilson bashing agenda?  

 

Speaking of Brady... how did his regular season YPA stack up to Wilson's...?

 

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Quote:You can't stand without being corrected.

 

BTW... Harbaugh has the smallest margin of victory, too.  That means so much when talking about the Jags coaches, but when it's brought up about Harbaugh and how he's won by the skin of his teeth...

 

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well then how about actually comparing equals, like regular season point differential for both SF & Jax. I addressed this yesterday in another post where you tried to float that crap by. Not surprised you ignored it. 

 

The point differential by SF was one of the best in the NFL this season. Maybe thats suggests why they were able to actually go on the road and win 2 straight playoff games in 2 tough environments. 

 

Can't wait till San Fran makes it 3 straight this Sunday. 

Quote:well then how about actually comparing equals, like regular season point differential for both SF & Jax. I addressed this yesterday in another post where you tried to float that crap by. Not surprised you ignored it. 

 

The point differential by SF was one of the best in the NFL this season. Maybe thats suggests why they were able to actually go on the road and win 2 straight playoff games in 2 tough environments. 

 

Can't wait till San Fran makes it 3 straight this Sunday. 

 

And if they don't, it's back to the "Kaepernick is too twiggy for the NFL" again, again...  We get it, already.

Quote:And if they don't, it's back to the "Kaepernick is too twiggy for the NFL" again, again...  We get it, already.

 

...and if they don't Kaepernick and the Niners still had a winning record in the playoffs this year. 

 

lol @ "we". Now looks who's trying to be included. 

 

With your attitude, pirk, I'd be surprised if you had many supporters. 

Quote:...and if they don't Kaepernick and the Niners still had a winning record in the playoffs this year. 

 

lol @ "we". Now looks who's trying to be included. 

 

With your attitude, pirk, I'd be surprised if you had many supporters. 

 

Well, do your own homework for a change.  Search "schtick" and "mods please ban" on the forum for yourself and see who's name pops up.  Or, pay attention when you're given the hint next time.  Then maybe you'll realize what we're tired of.  It all turns into the same old, same old.

 

Abandoned the YPA regular season comparison, I see.  Can't say I'm surprised.  Like I said, we've heard all the endless spin before and we'll hear it again.

Great piece on Pete Carroll and his defensive philosophy.

It applies since G-Brad runs the same defense.

Quote:I remember campaigning for the Jags to fire Del Rio after the 2010 season and get Harbaugh. People laughed and said "why do you want a college coach?"....blah blah blah Spurrier, blah blah blah......


I may miss on QB from time to time, but I know coaches. Every head coach that I've been uber high on and advised the Jags to hire when they had an opening (or should have had an opening in the post 2010 case) , i,e, Harbaugh, Kelly, McCoy, O Brien, has been a good one.

Weren't you clamoring for the Jags to get Ferentz from Iowa a while back?

Quote:Weren't you clamoring for the Jags to get Ferentz from Iowa a while back?

and Dan LeFevour

Quote:I feel you on that man. But I feel like the Jags will get back to it's greatness sooner than what we think.

I believe we really a Franchise QB away from greatness to be straight honest.

 

I hope you are right.

 

I am hopeful Bradley and Caldwell are the guys to get us there, but we've got a long way to go.

 

Until we are there, I can't help but think of the year we took Rod Isaac over Richard Sherman, Alualu over Thomas, Britton over Unger, etc.

Quote:Weren't you clamoring for the Jags to get Ferentz from Iowa a while back?

 

When there were rumors about him possibly having ties with Gene, yes. 

 

Point?