09-20-2017, 03:34 PM
09-20-2017, 03:40 PM
(09-20-2017, 02:27 PM)Etdavis2006 Wrote: [ -> ]I'll take it a different direction. If this team had Cutler we would be a Super Bowl contender right now. Colin does not present that much of a bump in our playoff hopes but he certainly upgrades the posistion. It's hard to sell you want to win lunch and don't even attempt to have competition for the most important position in all of sports.
If teams don't want Colin because of his stance then say that. People would actually respect that more. I understand how some people may be offended by his protest. I actually don't feel those people are racist for it. We are humans and we are allowed to feel how we feel. But we have to stop with this narrative that he isn't any good. The dude went to a Super Bowl and then went right back to the conference championship the next year. Had another solid season and then dealt with injuries.
His career numbers are better than anything we seen here because they resulted in wins and his win loss record reflects that. It's when people make this argument that he isn't any good, it comes off as disingenuous. If you just don't like it say that.
All of this doesn't even matter because it's too late in the season for him to come here. This should have been handled in March. We could have signed him or Cutler and that still would not have affected any future moves at the position going forward as well as produced at least an 8-8 season with competent qb play.
The team made the decision and that's that.
Go jags
Give Ryan Nassib som playing time Marrone
09-20-2017, 03:54 PM
Are we gonna just disregard Nassib's game against Louisville tho? Dude is definitely a baller
09-20-2017, 04:07 PM
Starts at 42 seconds. I think he makes a good point about Kap.
09-20-2017, 04:13 PM
Ryan Nassib. Blake is shaking in his boots now! Dumb signing. Useless signing.
09-20-2017, 04:16 PM
(09-20-2017, 03:54 PM)Etdavis2006 Wrote: [ -> ]Are we gonna just disregard Nassib's game against Louisville tho? Dude is definitely a baller
I will say I was intrigued by Nassib when he was coming out of college.
09-20-2017, 06:08 PM
(09-20-2017, 02:27 PM)Etdavis2006 Wrote: [ -> ]I'll take it a different direction. If this team had Cutler we would be a Super Bowl contender right now. Colin does not present that much of a bump in our playoff hopes but he certainly upgrades the posistion. It's hard to sell you want to win lunch and don't even attempt to have competition for the most important position in all of sports.
If teams don't want Colin because of his stance then say that. People would actually respect that more. I understand how some people may be offended by his protest. I actually don't feel those people are racist for it. We are humans and we are allowed to feel how we feel. But we have to stop with this narrative that he isn't any good. The dude went to a Super Bowl and then went right back to the conference championship the next year. Had another solid season and then dealt with injuries.
His career numbers are better than anything we seen here because they resulted in wins and his win loss record reflects that. It's when people make this argument that he isn't any good, it comes off as disingenuous. If you just don't like it say that.
All of this doesn't even matter because it's too late in the season for him to come here. This should have been handled in March. We could have signed him or Cutler and that still would not have affected any future moves at the position going forward as well as produced at least an 8-8 season with competent qb play.
The team made the decision and that's that.
Go jags
Give Ryan Nassib som playing time Marrone
You honestly think this team would be a super bowl contender with Cutler? A QB that only has a job right now because of injury?
I understand you guys wanting to pick up the shoe shining boy who's never played a game of football before, just so you can get rid of Bortles, but wha'ts the one knock Bortles constantly gets? "He turns the ball over way too much"..
Well Cutler turns the ball over just as much. He's widely known for throwing all kinds of awful passes and making stupid decisions. The exact same thing that everybody rips Bortles for. Cutler has 184 career turnovers.
09-20-2017, 07:40 PM
(09-20-2017, 06:08 PM)I\m Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]Easily a playoff contender and division winner(09-20-2017, 02:27 PM)Etdavis2006 Wrote: [ -> ]I'll take it a different direction. If this team had Cutler we would be a Super Bowl contender right now. Colin does not present that much of a bump in our playoff hopes but he certainly upgrades the posistion. It's hard to sell you want to win lunch and don't even attempt to have competition for the most important position in all of sports.
If teams don't want Colin because of his stance then say that. People would actually respect that more. I understand how some people may be offended by his protest. I actually don't feel those people are racist for it. We are humans and we are allowed to feel how we feel. But we have to stop with this narrative that he isn't any good. The dude went to a Super Bowl and then went right back to the conference championship the next year. Had another solid season and then dealt with injuries.
His career numbers are better than anything we seen here because they resulted in wins and his win loss record reflects that. It's when people make this argument that he isn't any good, it comes off as disingenuous. If you just don't like it say that.
All of this doesn't even matter because it's too late in the season for him to come here. This should have been handled in March. We could have signed him or Cutler and that still would not have affected any future moves at the position going forward as well as produced at least an 8-8 season with competent qb play.
The team made the decision and that's that.
Go jags
Give Ryan Nassib som playing time Marrone
You honestly think this team would be a super bowl contender with Cutler? A QB that only has a job right now because of injury?
I understand you guys wanting to pick up the shoe shining boy who's never played a game of football before, just so you can get rid of Bortles, but wha'ts the one knock Bortles constantly gets? "He turns the ball over way too much"..
Well Cutler turns the ball over just as much. He's widely known for throwing all kinds of awful passes and making stupid decisions. The exact same thing that everybody rips Bortles for. Cutler has 184 career turnovers.
Jay Cutler took the bears to the NFC championship and has a 51-51 record in Chicago.
Dolphins won their first game this season.
If Bortles won games his turnovers wouldn't be as bad. Eli has mad turnovers but also won 2 Super Bowl championships so you put up with him. Cutlers worse year was 5-10. Blake can barely muster 5 wins when he throws 35 tds
Please try again
Y'all gotta stop believing this hype that since guys aren't on a team they just suck or something. Cutler has attitude issues. He also controlled his destiny and made tons of money. He was doing what he wanted to do. In most cases that's true but not in all cases. Y'all have way to much football knowledge and been around here way too to be this silly when it comes to these topics.
09-20-2017, 07:48 PM
We know what we have in Blake. At this point we need to try something different (AKA Henne) if we hit the 6 game mark less than 500. I would take Cutler over Blake at this point, but that is not an option.
09-20-2017, 08:11 PM
(09-20-2017, 07:40 PM)Etdavis2006 Wrote: [ -> ](09-20-2017, 06:08 PM)I\m Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]You honestly think this team would be a super bowl contender with Cutler? A QB that only has a job right now because of injury?Easily a playoff contender and division winner
I understand you guys wanting to pick up the shoe shining boy who's never played a game of football before, just so you can get rid of Bortles, but wha'ts the one knock Bortles constantly gets? "He turns the ball over way too much"..
Well Cutler turns the ball over just as much. He's widely known for throwing all kinds of awful passes and making stupid decisions. The exact same thing that everybody rips Bortles for. Cutler has 184 career turnovers.
Jay Cutler took the bears to the NFC championship and has a 51-51 record in Chicago.
Dolphins won their first game this season.
If Bortles won games his turnovers wouldn't be as bad. Eli has mad turnovers but also won 2 Super Bowl championships so you put up with him. Cutlers worse year was 5-10. Blake can barely muster 5 wins when he throws 35 tds
Please try again
Y'all gotta stop believing this hype that since guys aren't on a team they just suck or something. Cutler has attitude issues. He also controlled his destiny and made tons of money. He was doing what he wanted to do. In most cases that's true but not in all cases. Y'all have way to much football knowledge and been around here way too to be this silly when it comes to these topics.
Cutler has never carried a team and neither has Eli. That Defense was a huge reason why Eli has those Super Bowls. That Giants DL flat out dominated those 2 Super Bowls especially.
Cutler might have controlled his destiny, but what makes you think he'd even want to come to a team that has did nothing but lose?
We can all input said QBs names, who aren't on this roster and say that this, or that would happen if he was here, but it's nothing more then throwing crap on a wall and hoping it sticks.
I don't deny that Cutler is better than Bortles, but to say this team would be a super bowl contender with him is laughable. Even saying this team is a playoff contender is funny. This team has did nothing but lose and lose in every way possible. QB play, Defensive play, Special Teams play, boneheaded play. Year in and year out this franchise consistently finds a way to beat themselves. Bad QB play is definitely a big factor, but even when QB play hasn't been an issue in some games, we still find ways to lose.
This team needs to prove that they can win, plain and simple. QBs have come and gone and this franchise has still been awful for the past decade+. The entire team needs to prove they can win before there's any kind of playoff nonsense even mentioned.
09-20-2017, 08:12 PM
(09-20-2017, 07:48 PM)Newton Wrote: [ -> ]We know what we have in Blake. At this point we need to try something different (AKA Henne) if we hit the 6 game mark less than 500. I would take Cutler over Blake at this point, but that is not an option.
We know what we have in Henne, and he's worst then Blake, expect more INTs and sacks if he starts
09-20-2017, 08:23 PM
(09-20-2017, 08:12 PM)J-Mizzal Wrote: [ -> ](09-20-2017, 07:48 PM)Newton Wrote: [ -> ]We know what we have in Blake. At this point we need to try something different (AKA Henne) if we hit the 6 game mark less than 500. I would take Cutler over Blake at this point, but that is not an option.
We know what we have in Henne, and he's worst then Blake, expect more INTs and sacks if he starts
You may be right, but at that point you are basically hoping Henne can add a spark. In the worst case, at least Blake is not owed his 5th year option salary due to injury, allowing you to easily cut bait and draft someone new. Here's to hoping we can win with the current formula and this will be a moot point.
09-20-2017, 08:43 PM
How do you not know what Henne is after 6 seasons with the team, 22 starts, 26 tds and 25 ints?
09-20-2017, 08:53 PM
(09-20-2017, 03:34 PM)Frailbones Wrote: [ -> ]This thread seems to have taken a turn into "Please lock this thread" territory.
I'm just about ready to pull the trigger...
09-20-2017, 09:06 PM
(09-20-2017, 08:12 PM)J-Mizzal Wrote: [ -> ]We know what we have in Henne, and he's worst then Blake, expect more INTs and sacks if he starts
We also know he can drop some dimes on deep balls too. Would last week have been different if Henne was in and hit Hurns on that wide open play action pass that Blake missed and we went up 10-3 early in the 2nd quarter? Maybe not, but maybe so...
09-21-2017, 01:17 AM
(09-18-2017, 05:49 PM)Adub28 Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-18-2017, 01:55 PM)pid=\1030275 Wrote:
A QB who won a game and came back from 26-0 and won the game. When's the last time Blake did that?
09-21-2017, 01:41 AM
(09-21-2017, 01:17 AM)Teal Time Radio Wrote: [ -> ](09-18-2017, 05:49 PM)Adub28 Wrote: [ -> ]
A QB who won a game and came back from 26-0 and won the game. When's the last time Blake did that?
It was the 2nd PRESEASON game in 2014... Man you guys are really trying to scrape the bottom of the barrel now huh?
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edit: and it was 14-26 when Nassib took over in the 4th quarter
09-21-2017, 01:41 AM
I will shed light on Colin situation real quick. We all can agree Colin is a read option QB right? We also can agree the likes of RG3, Manziel, Tebow and many others have failed right? The read option gimmick has been exposed right? Or can ya name one read option QB who lately has any success in The NFL? Of course you Can't. That style does not work in the NFL.
So if the read option style is a epic fail in the NFL? And Colin is in fact a read option QB? Then common sense says. He is not on a roster because a read option qb. And read option has failed at the NFL level.
So if the read option style is a epic fail in the NFL? And Colin is in fact a read option QB? Then common sense says. He is not on a roster because a read option qb. And read option has failed at the NFL level.
09-21-2017, 01:54 AM
(09-21-2017, 01:41 AM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ](09-21-2017, 01:17 AM)Teal Time Radio Wrote: [ -> ]A QB who won a game and came back from 26-0 and won the game. When's the last time Blake did that?
It was the 2nd PRESEASON game in 2014... Man you guys are really trying to scrape the bottom of the barrel now huh?
edit: and it was 14-26 when Nassib took over in the 4th quarter
Absolutely not. Name a manning who was a backup while at prime of his career? Exactly
09-21-2017, 01:58 AM
(09-21-2017, 01:54 AM)Teal Time Radio Wrote: [ -> ](09-21-2017, 01:41 AM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]It was the 2nd PRESEASON game in 2014... Man you guys are really trying to scrape the bottom of the barrel now huh?
edit: and it was 14-26 when Nassib took over in the 4th quarter
Absolutely not. Name a manning who was a backup while at prime of his career? Exactly
What in the blue hell are you talking about?