The wildcard here is Tom Coughlin...he's proven to beat the formula that is the Patriots and he is an interesting piece to the puzzle. He's not the coach but he's in charge.
This is going to be a hard hitting affair. I hope Brady is ready to be put on his [BLEEP] a few times.
(01-15-2018, 11:28 PM)Cmdjr85 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-15-2018, 03:46 PM)JagFan81 Wrote: [ -> ]The Pats will be respectful and try to do what the Steelers didn't but don't buy a word of it. As far as Pats fans are concerned, they've won the SB. No way any of the other QB's can beat Brady. They have no respect for us or our D, they think it will be the T*tans all over again. I also bet they've watched maybe 2 of our games this season so have no idea how good we actually are.
The Pats missing Edelman and Hightower is huge. Both are key parts and looking at the Pats D, their D line isn't great and they'll have to bring LB's to get pressure which opens up the middle. The O line was fantastic and if Fournette can get similar production, the Pats are going to have to open up. Their D is built to play with a lead.
Now i think our D matches up really well. They have Gronk, Cooks, Amendola and Hogan with White in the backfield. We matchup well one on one, i think Marrone and Coughlin will have a plan for Gronk, but Cooks is the only deep threat we really need to worry about but the others guys are 8-10 yard route runners, Colvin and Bouye can handle that. We still have Telvin and Jack playing the screens and the flat routes. We have the pace and speed to take away that quick release and make him hold it that extra half second and give the pass rush a chance.
Now that's where the real fun will be, in the trenches. I'm calling it here, Yannick against Nate Solder. He's going to give him nightmares and at least one fumble.
The Pats D was god awful to start and the Miami defeat a few weeks ago is the tape to study. But what great teams have the Pats beat this season? Lost to Carolina, struggling against Buffalo until the refs stepped in.
There's a blueprint to beat the Pats, the Broncos showed it, if only we had a guy who was a key part of that D on our current roster......oh yeah!!!
Go Jags!!! Shock the World!
Yep go study the miami tape. Lol see how that works for you. And the pata defense is much improved. In the moat important area they went from 32nd to 5th in 12 games.
They also allowed 3 rushing touchdowns over the last 13 games.
I will ask you to answer why the miami tape would be useless
Also just as jacksonville has pittsburghs number brady has jacksonvilles hes 7-0 against the jags including setting a post season single game vompletion % record against the jags.
Funny that in the same post where you say the game tape for a game that happened a month ago is useless, you bring up the fact that Brady is 7-0 against Jacksonville. A team he hasn't faced in over 2 years and then cite a game that happened 10 years ago.
(01-15-2018, 11:53 PM)empty Wrote: [ -> ] (01-15-2018, 11:28 PM)Cmdjr85 Wrote: [ -> ]Yep go study the miami tape. Lol see how that works for you. And the pata defense is much improved. In the moat important area they went from 32nd to 5th in 12 games.
They also allowed 3 rushing touchdowns over the last 13 games.
I will ask you to answer why the miami tape would be useless
Also just as jacksonville has pittsburghs number brady has jacksonvilles hes 7-0 against the jags including setting a post season single game vompletion % record against the jags.
Funny that in the same post where you say the game tape for a game that happened a month ago is useless, you bring up the fact that Brady is 7-0 against Jacksonville. A team he hasn't faced in over 2 years and then cite a game that happened 10 years ago.
Thata not why it useless. Go dig a little deeper. I encourage you to dig a tad deeper as to why that game tape would be irrelevant
(01-15-2018, 11:28 PM)Cmdjr85 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-15-2018, 03:46 PM)JagFan81 Wrote: [ -> ]The Pats will be respectful and try to do what the Steelers didn't but don't buy a word of it. As far as Pats fans are concerned, they've won the SB. No way any of the other QB's can beat Brady. They have no respect for us or our D, they think it will be the T*tans all over again. I also bet they've watched maybe 2 of our games this season so have no idea how good we actually are.
The Pats missing Edelman and Hightower is huge. Both are key parts and looking at the Pats D, their D line isn't great and they'll have to bring LB's to get pressure which opens up the middle. The O line was fantastic and if Fournette can get similar production, the Pats are going to have to open up. Their D is built to play with a lead.
Now i think our D matches up really well. They have Gronk, Cooks, Amendola and Hogan with White in the backfield. We matchup well one on one, i think Marrone and Coughlin will have a plan for Gronk, but Cooks is the only deep threat we really need to worry about but the others guys are 8-10 yard route runners, Colvin and Bouye can handle that. We still have Telvin and Jack playing the screens and the flat routes. We have the pace and speed to take away that quick release and make him hold it that extra half second and give the pass rush a chance.
Now that's where the real fun will be, in the trenches. I'm calling it here, Yannick against Nate Solder. He's going to give him nightmares and at least one fumble.
The Pats D was god awful to start and the Miami defeat a few weeks ago is the tape to study. But what great teams have the Pats beat this season? Lost to Carolina, struggling against Buffalo until the refs stepped in.
There's a blueprint to beat the Pats, the Broncos showed it, if only we had a guy who was a key part of that D on our current roster......oh yeah!!!
Go Jags!!! Shock the World!
Yep go study the miami tape. Lol see how that works for you. And the pata defense is much improved. In the moat important area they went from 32nd to 5th in 12 games.
They also allowed 3 rushing touchdowns over the last 13 games.
I will ask you to answer why the miami tape would be useless
Also just as jacksonville has pittsburghs number brady has jacksonvilles hes 7-0 against the jags including setting a post season single game vompletion % record against the jags.
Well Miami showed that your still beatable and this year without Edelman, when it's crunch time, Gronk is your main threat.
Yoh obviously haven't watched us much. Yes you have the best QB of all time and we need to be perfect to win but we have a front 4 that will being pressure and collapse the pocket all day. I doubt you know Ngakoue, you will Sunday.
The Pats will hit us with screens and Gronk over the middle. We have Telvin Smith, again probably not heard of him, the guy is immense at the screen and quick as hell and Myles Jack, who's basically the same. I think we'll play a lot of nickle to avoid Poz in pass coverage so well have Colvin and Bouye. They match up really well against Cooks and Hogan, you don't have a Antonio Brown. And them we have Ramsey, think he'll shy away from Gronk, he has the length, speed and attitude to take on Gronk, he'll probably get a Gronk arm to the back of the head!
I also like how he's 7-0 against this unit, oh how Id love to see those Boston faces if we did it.
How's he against Coughlin again?
Thata what every jags fan is doing bringing up coughlin games from ages ago. But if they recall the last time coughlin team played the patriots they lost
(01-15-2018, 11:59 PM)JagFan81 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-15-2018, 11:28 PM)Cmdjr85 Wrote: [ -> ]Yep go study the miami tape. Lol see how that works for you. And the pata defense is much improved. In the moat important area they went from 32nd to 5th in 12 games.
They also allowed 3 rushing touchdowns over the last 13 games.
I will ask you to answer why the miami tape would be useless
Also just as jacksonville has pittsburghs number brady has jacksonvilles hes 7-0 against the jags including setting a post season single game vompletion % record against the jags.
Well Miami showed that your still beatable and this year without Edelman, when it's crunch time, Gronk is your main threat.
Yoh obviously haven't watched us much. Yes you have the best QB of all time and we need to be perfect to win but we have a front 4 that will being pressure and collapse the pocket all day. I doubt you know Ngakoue, you will Sunday.
The Pats will hit us with screens and Gronk over the middle. We have Telvin Smith, again probably not heard of him, the guy is immense at the screen and quick as hell and Myles Jack, who's basically the same. I think we'll play a lot of nickle to avoid Poz in pass coverage so well have Colvin and Bouye. They match up really well against Cooks and Hogan, you don't have a Antonio Brown. And them we have Ramsey, think he'll shy away from Gronk, he has the length, speed and attitude to take on Gronk, he'll probably get a Gronk arm to the back of the head!
I also like how he's 7-0 against this unit, oh how Id love to see those Boston faces if we did it.
How's he against Coughlin again?
Again the miami game is obsolete. Lets see how long it takes you to figure the answer to the question out
(01-15-2018, 11:59 PM)JagFan81 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-15-2018, 11:28 PM)Cmdjr85 Wrote: [ -> ]Yep go study the miami tape. Lol see how that works for you. And the pata defense is much improved. In the moat important area they went from 32nd to 5th in 12 games.
They also allowed 3 rushing touchdowns over the last 13 games.
I will ask you to answer why the miami tape would be useless
Also just as jacksonville has pittsburghs number brady has jacksonvilles hes 7-0 against the jags including setting a post season single game vompletion % record against the jags.
Well Miami showed that your still beatable and this year without Edelman, when it's crunch time, Gronk is your main threat.
Yoh obviously haven't watched us much. Yes you have the best QB of all time and we need to be perfect to win but we have a front 4 that will being pressure and collapse the pocket all day. I doubt you know Ngakoue, you will Sunday.
The Pats will hit us with screens and Gronk over the middle. We have Telvin Smith, again probably not heard of him, the guy is immense at the screen and quick as hell and Myles Jack, who's basically the same. I think we'll play a lot of nickle to avoid Poz in pass coverage so well have Colvin and Bouye. They match up really well against Cooks and Hogan, you don't have a Antonio Brown. And them we have Ramsey, think he'll shy away from Gronk, he has the length, speed and attitude to take on Gronk, he'll probably get a Gronk arm to the back of the head!
I also like how he's 7-0 against this unit, oh how Id love to see those Boston faces if we did it.
How's he against Coughlin again?
Ive seen all but 2 jaguars game this year, ive seen almost every game from every team. I watch the games during the week in preperation for the next weeks dfs slates.
(01-15-2018, 11:59 PM)JagFan81 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-15-2018, 11:28 PM)Cmdjr85 Wrote: [ -> ]Yep go study the miami tape. Lol see how that works for you. And the pata defense is much improved. In the moat important area they went from 32nd to 5th in 12 games.
They also allowed 3 rushing touchdowns over the last 13 games.
I will ask you to answer why the miami tape would be useless
Also just as jacksonville has pittsburghs number brady has jacksonvilles hes 7-0 against the jags including setting a post season single game vompletion % record against the jags.
Well Miami showed that your still beatable and this year without Edelman, when it's crunch time, Gronk is your main threat.
Yoh obviously haven't watched us much. Yes you have the best QB of all time and we need to be perfect to win but we have a front 4 that will being pressure and collapse the pocket all day. I doubt you know Ngakoue, you will Sunday.
The Pats will hit us with screens and Gronk over the middle. We have Telvin Smith, again probably not heard of him, the guy is immense at the screen and quick as hell and Myles Jack, who's basically the same. I think we'll play a lot of nickle to avoid Poz in pass coverage so well have Colvin and Bouye. They match up really well against Cooks and Hogan, you don't have a Antonio Brown. And them we have Ramsey, think he'll shy away from Gronk, he has the length, speed and attitude to take on Gronk, he'll probably get a Gronk arm to the back of the head!
I also like how he's 7-0 against this unit, oh how Id love to see those Boston faces if we did it.
How's he against Coughlin again?
Gronk will beat ramsey all day thats a mismatch brady would take all day, but jacksonville is not gonna put ramsey on gronk becauae then that leaves a weakness in another spot. Ill say it again this jaguars team will not do anything brady hasnt seen before. The patriots dont rely on a vertical passing game.
While I know they won't, it would be nice if Brady and McDaniels would underestimate Ramsey too.
(01-16-2018, 12:22 AM)Scarecrow Wrote: [ -> ]While I know they won't, it would be nice if Brady and McDaniels would underestimate Ramsey too.
Ramsey cant cover gronk 1 on 1, you havent seen much gronk have you. His catch radius is rediculous brady will put the ball where only gronk can catch it. Beside that they wont put ramsey on gronk. Because ure gonna then. As some of you say put bouye on cooks and colvin on hogan. Ok so whos gonna cover amendola, he is on bradys trust tree, he will be a factor in this game. Theh after all that we have 3 rb who are among the top in the nfl at success rate.
Im pretty sure your coaches will play how they have done it all year.
They will braket gronk and have bouye and ramsey lock down the perimiter recievers. You dont ever stop gronk you limit him.
(01-16-2018, 12:29 AM)Cmdjr85 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-16-2018, 12:22 AM)Scarecrow Wrote: [ -> ]While I know they won't, it would be nice if Brady and McDaniels would underestimate Ramsey too.
Ramsey cant cover gronk 1 on 1, you havent seen much gronk have you. His catch radius is rediculous brady will put the ball where only gronk can catch it. Beside that they wont put ramsey on gronk. Because ure gonna then. As some of you say put bouye on cooks and colvin on hogan. Ok so whos gonna cover amendola, he is on bradys trust tree, he will be a factor in this game. Theh after all that we have 3 rb who are among the top in the nfl at success rate.
Im pretty sure your coaches will play how they have done it all year.
They will braket gronk and have bouye and ramsey lock down the perimiter recievers. You dont ever stop gronk you limit him.
If Eric Berry and Talib can cover Gronk, Ramsey can
(01-16-2018, 12:34 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ] (01-16-2018, 12:29 AM)Cmdjr85 Wrote: [ -> ]Ramsey cant cover gronk 1 on 1, you havent seen much gronk have you. His catch radius is rediculous brady will put the ball where only gronk can catch it. Beside that they wont put ramsey on gronk. Because ure gonna then. As some of you say put bouye on cooks and colvin on hogan. Ok so whos gonna cover amendola, he is on bradys trust tree, he will be a factor in this game. Theh after all that we have 3 rb who are among the top in the nfl at success rate.
Im pretty sure your coaches will play how they have done it all year.
They will braket gronk and have bouye and ramsey lock down the perimiter recievers. You dont ever stop gronk you limit him.
If Eric Berry and Talib can cover Gronk, Ramsey can
Lets go back to week 1 gronkowski was not fully healthy. Infact he didnt get back to form until october. Nice try though
(01-16-2018, 12:29 AM)Cmdjr85 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-16-2018, 12:22 AM)Scarecrow Wrote: [ -> ]While I know they won't, it would be nice if Brady and McDaniels would underestimate Ramsey too.
Ramsey cant cover gronk 1 on 1, you havent seen much gronk have you. His catch radius is rediculous brady will put the ball where only gronk can catch it. Beside that they wont put ramsey on gronk. Because ure gonna then. As some of you say put bouye on cooks and colvin on hogan. Ok so whos gonna cover amendola, he is on bradys trust tree, he will be a factor in this game. Theh after all that we have 3 rb who are among the top in the nfl at success rate.
Im pretty sure your coaches will play how they have done it all year.
They will braket gronk and have bouye and ramsey lock down the perimiter recievers. You dont ever stop gronk you limit him.
Ramsey is 6 ft 2 with a 40+ inch vert and long arms. I understand Gronk and how much of a freak that he is. I know he is difficult to try and contain.
Ramsey is a freak athlete. He's a LB with the skill set of an All Pro corner. Even if they don't use Ramsey on Gronk...Telvin and Myles Jack are both solid cover LB's and above average athletes in their own right.
Nobody matches up perfect with Gronk...he's a big guy, with long arms and great hands. He has the best QB of our lifetime throwing him the football.
To say that the Jaguars can't cover him...I think you're wrong.
Single coverage will not work, im not wrong on that. The elite broncos defense couldnt even contain him with 3 guys on him. The seahawks had problems all game with gronk. What gronk dose is force you to put all your attention on him. Miamk didnt have to worry about him late in season because he didnt play.
Your gonna have to pick your poision.
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Standard Cheats fan BS. Your play is tired. Steroid use in the 70's was not cheating because it was not against the rules at the time. Steroid use was begun by the SD Chargers in 1963. Your team however, was caught three times, warned once, and penalized twice with fines, loss of draft picks, and your QB suspended. Everyone from New York and south knows your Lombardi's are tainted.
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(01-16-2018, 12:45 AM)Cmdjr85 Wrote: [ -> ]Single coverage will not work, im not wrong on that. The elite broncos defense couldnt even contain him with 3 guys on him. The seahawks had problems all game with gronk. What gronk dose is force you to put all your attention on him. Miamk didnt have to worry about him late in season because he didnt play.
Your gonna have to pick your poision.
They don't have to single cover him every play. The Jaguars have a number of options. Ramsey, Bouye, Colvin, Telvin Smith, Myles Jack etc.
It's going to be tough for Brady to find Gronk when he's on his back.
Lol brady is gonna shred you, i tried to tell the jags fans back in 14 or 15 that jmmy g was gonna shred you and brady will do the same. And the pats running backs are a mismatch for ya, your gonna have some serious troubles stoping lewis, burkhead and white. I also expect amendola to have a huge game. Gronk will get his 6-8 for 100+
Your season ends sunday aroun 630pm. Enjoy
(01-16-2018, 01:00 AM)Cmdjr85 Wrote: [ -> ]Lol brady is gonna shred you, i tried to tell the jags fans back in 14 or 15 that jmmy g was gonna shred you and brady will do the same. And the pats running backs are a mismatch for ya, your gonna have some serious troubles stoping lewis, burkhead and white. I also expect amendola to have a huge game. Gronk will get his 6-8 for 100+
Your season ends sunday aroun 630pm. Enjoy
I think you mean the Refs are going to shred us. You must be a big fan of the Zebras. They're the only reason your team is able to do so well.
Are Pats fans implying that Gronk is uncoverable? We have two of the very best (All-Pro corners), and a an All-Pro linebacker with speed and coverage skills. He only had 3 games over 89 yards. While Gronk is undoubtedly a threat with Brady throwing to him, Ramsey / Bouye have played and shut down bigger threats than Gronk.
Gronk's size is intimidating to no one on this defense. I'm not saying he wont produce (he still has Brady), but I'm completely comfortable with Telvin, Jack, Ramsey, or Bouye covering him.
(01-16-2018, 01:07 AM)The Eleventh Doctor Wrote: [ -> ]I think you mean the Refs are going to shred us. You must be a big fan of the Zebras. They're the only reason your team is able to do so well.
One can only hope the Jag's players feel the same way.
(01-16-2018, 01:18 AM)BostonBlackie Wrote: [ -> ] (01-16-2018, 01:07 AM)The Eleventh Doctor Wrote: [ -> ]I think you mean the Refs are going to shred us. You must be a big fan of the Zebras. They're the only reason your team is able to do so well.
One can only hope the Jag's players feel the same way.
You're always going to hear this as long as the Pats keep getting game-changing calls fall their way.
(01-16-2018, 01:17 AM)JagNGeorgia Wrote: [ -> ]Gronk's size is intimidating to no one on this defense.
Excellent.
(01-16-2018, 01:21 AM)JagNGeorgia Wrote: [ -> ]You're always going to hear this as long as the Pats keep getting game-changing calls fall their way.
Good, as I said, I hope the Jags feel the same way.