(01-16-2018, 01:03 PM)Kane Wrote: [ -> ]If you Pats fans will notice... Bills fans and squealer fans have been here talking smack about how our team isn't that good before their games too. And now they are ghosts...
just sayin'
That's funny, I haven't seen any Pats fans say the Jags aren't any good.
(01-16-2018, 01:00 AM)Cmdjr85 Wrote: [ -> ]Lol brady is gonna shred you, i tried to tell the jags fans back in 14 or 15 that jmmy g was gonna shred you and brady will do the same. And the pats running backs are a mismatch for ya, your gonna have some serious troubles stoping lewis, burkhead and white. I also expect amendola to have a huge game. Gronk will get his 6-8 for 100+
Your season ends sunday aroun 630pm. Enjoy
Didn't take you long to get banned lol
(01-16-2018, 01:00 PM)JNev Wrote: [ -> ] (01-16-2018, 12:53 PM)TyLawsPick6 Wrote: [ -> ]Hmm..Tenn fans laughed at our D last week, too. Don't look now, but your offense is built JUST like Tenn's.
Love your ignorance and arrogance, as you call out Pats fans for coming with truth and facts only.
I bet your “D” gets laughed at a lot...
Our defense is really underrated. How many teams put up 40+ point on us this year? We've held teams to the least amount of points better than ANY other team and ultimately, ranked 5th in the league. Can't be laughed at that much. I think it gets overshadowed because of Brady and the offense.
(01-16-2018, 01:05 PM)BostonBlackie Wrote: [ -> ] (01-16-2018, 01:03 PM)Kane Wrote: [ -> ]If you Pats fans will notice... Bills fans and squealer fans have been here talking smack about how our team isn't that good before their games too. And now they are ghosts...
just sayin'
That's funny, I haven't seen any Pats fans say the Jags aren't any good.
Me either. We've been dealing with Steelers fans and Bills fans for years now, welcome to the NFL. Get used to it. No one said your team is bad, that's stupidity in its face to think otherwise.
Steelers and Bills fans are always salty at Patriots fans..... wonder why?
(01-16-2018, 01:05 PM)BostonBlackie Wrote: [ -> ] (01-16-2018, 01:03 PM)Kane Wrote: [ -> ]If you Pats fans will notice... Bills fans and squealer fans have been here talking smack about how our team isn't that good before their games too. And now they are ghosts...
just sayin'
That's funny, I haven't seen any Pats fans say the Jags aren't any good.
Right, just letting us know how much better your team is. Bringing up the tack game. Countering what we've done well with remarks about the teams we beat being not that good or not as good as the Pats....
We get it... Tom Turrific and co are perfect.
It's OK though...
we're the red headed step child of the league. And apparently the team wears it like a badge of honor.
(01-16-2018, 11:20 AM)jagshype Wrote: [ -> ] (01-16-2018, 10:51 AM)TyLawsPick6 Wrote: [ -> ]While Coughlin has had a nice career, Steve Spagnuolo was responsible for the SB 42 defensive effort, which was a massive fail by McDaniels and all the offensive coaches involved.
In 2011, in SB 46, the Pats yet again through it away with lack of execution plays or bad decisions.
It's really nothing special that Coughlin personally did. That rhetoric has got to be the most inconsequential piece of information I've heard so far this week.
If Asante Samuel catches an easy INT or Welker simply holds on, Coughlin is seen as a mediocre coach with zero SB rings, so let's not oversell something that has absolutely zero to do with 2017 and the AFC Title game on Sunday.
Coughlin was about to be fired if they didn't make the playoffs in 2007. Nice response and he certainly deserves kudos for what those defenses did, absolutely. But, if you're relying on a team like NE's 2011 team that was being rebuilt off a Lockout, with no mini camp or summer camp, that's not the same kind of a situation here.
No, it's about money. That's how the world work$. Welcome to reality.
I dont think most Jags fan see Coughlin as an X factor from an x's and o's standpoint.
But more of a factor in setting the tone for the team from a preparedness level. Just letting the team know what to expect from an intensity level and reinforcing the attention to detail.
Obviously he will give Marrone some tips but I think Coughlin's value is more towards his "aura" and omnipresence
This is the point.
(01-16-2018, 11:21 AM)Boston_Prince Wrote: [ -> ] (01-15-2018, 11:44 PM)Scarecrow Wrote: [ -> ]The wildcard here is Tom Coughlin...he's proven to beat the formula that is the Patriots and he is an interesting piece to the puzzle. He's not the coach but he's in charge.
This is going to be a hard hitting affair. I hope Brady is ready to be put on his [BLEEP] a few times.
Coughlin is an offensive minded coach, unless Spagzz is coaching there, not that much of an issue. Also, its not like they blew the Pats out in those SBs, came down to a couple of crazy plays that would never happen again. This point is moot.
That being said, Jags have a great defense and an "ok" offense (Fournette, mostly) but are a solid team all around. The offense feeds off of your amazing defense with its explosiveness, especially when they account for alot of the TDs your team scored this year. That's what Bortles needs because he doesn't score much on his own, with his arm. This game will be a good one, great offense versus a great defense mostly. People keep selling the Pats defense short, they've held teams to the least amount of points the last couple months, and that constitutes a good defense to me.
Most of my point wasn't necessarily X's and O's in terms of Coughlin and the Pats. Coughlin brings more from an attitude, preparation, etc. He helped change the attitude around this team and that can't be discounted. He's been in these situations before too. Don't get me wrong, I think this is Marrone's team and he will be the one making the decisions this week but the year long influence of Tom Coughlin can't be ignored either.
This game is going to be tougher than most think. The Jags have no chance of winning this game easy but they have an us vs the world mentality combined with young, hungry talent that can be dangerous against anyone. When the Jaguars defense is on it's game this team CAN beat the Patriots and anyone else in front of them.
Your OL better be ready for relentless pressure. Pitt did a good job of containing them last week for most of the game but these boys are going to have an even larger chip on their shoulder than normal.
One key that I think we will have trouble with is running the ball and that's going to have to happen. Your run defense is stout and we will ride the run game/play action game hard.
I live in a part of the country where I don't get to see many Patriot games though I have great respect for the GOAT and Bill Belichick.
How does your defense do against play action? That seems to be what Bortles thrives with but it also is reliant on getting the run game going which won't be easy against your defense.
How does your defense do against mobile QBs? Bortles is deceptively mobile for a QB of his size and he can extend drives (we've seen it in both post season games this year too) with his legs when he has to.
Here's to a clean, hard hitting game with no injuries on either side.
(01-16-2018, 01:18 PM)Scarecrow Wrote: [ -> ] (01-16-2018, 11:20 AM)jagshype Wrote: [ -> ]I dont think most Jags fan see Coughlin as an X factor from an x's and o's standpoint.
But more of a factor in setting the tone for the team from a preparedness level. Just letting the team know what to expect from an intensity level and reinforcing the attention to detail.
Obviously he will give Marrone some tips but I think Coughlin's value is more towards his "aura" and omnipresence
This is the point.
(01-16-2018, 11:21 AM)Boston_Prince Wrote: [ -> ]Coughlin is an offensive minded coach, unless Spagzz is coaching there, not that much of an issue. Also, its not like they blew the Pats out in those SBs, came down to a couple of crazy plays that would never happen again. This point is moot.
That being said, Jags have a great defense and an "ok" offense (Fournette, mostly) but are a solid team all around. The offense feeds off of your amazing defense with its explosiveness, especially when they account for alot of the TDs your team scored this year. That's what Bortles needs because he doesn't score much on his own, with his arm. This game will be a good one, great offense versus a great defense mostly. People keep selling the Pats defense short, they've held teams to the least amount of points the last couple months, and that constitutes a good defense to me.
Most of my point wasn't necessarily X's and O's in terms of Coughlin and the Pats. Coughlin brings more from an attitude, preparation, etc. He helped change the attitude around this team and that can't be discounted. He's been in these situations before too. Don't get me wrong, I think this is Marrone's team and he will be the one making the decisions this week but the year long influence of Tom Coughlin can't be ignored either.
This game is going to be tougher than most think. The Jags have no chance of winning this game easy but they have an us vs the world mentality combined with young, hungry talent that can be dangerous against anyone. When the Jaguars defense is on it's game this team CAN beat the Patriots and anyone else in front of them.
Your OL better be ready for relentless pressure. Pitt did a good job of containing them last week for most of the game but these boys are going to have an even larger chip on their shoulder than normal.
One key that I think we will have trouble with is running the ball and that's going to have to happen. Your run defense is stout and we will ride the run game/play action game hard.
I live in a part of the country where I don't get to see many Patriot games though I have great respect for the GOAT and Bill Belichick.
How does your defense do against play action? That seems to be what Bortles thrives with but it also is reliant on getting the run game going which won't be easy against your defense.
How does your defense do against mobile QBs? Bortles is deceptively mobile for a QB of his size and he can extend drives (we've seen it in both post season games this year too) with his legs when he has to.
Here's to a hard hitting game with hopefully no injuries on either side.
Agreed, this game will be a good one. But the last time we faced Coughlin, we beat him at home.
As far as our defense dealing with running QBs, see last week's game. Honestly, I think Mariotta is better than Bortles in almost every faucet of the game. We sacked him 8 times. Steelers have a better OL but our o-line has shaped up a lot and is playing better at the right time (See this every year). Brady is the best at nullifying pass rushing teams, the BEST. Sure, there will be QB pressures and plays where he goes down, your front 4 is pretty good but Brady has seen these types of defenses forever.
As you mentioned, our run defenses is much better than the Steeler's is so shutting down the run and forcing Bortles to make plays with his arm would be our best bet to me. If Brady scores early and often, it would be tough. On the other side, if we are flat and your defensive line can make enough plays to get Brady of his timing, it could be a long night for us as well. The Steelers have all the talent in the world with dumb coaches who were unprepared. Don't expect that will Bill and Brady.
Marrone over Mularkey.
Jags D over Titans D.
Not saying the Jags will win but they’re nothing like the Titans. They’re better coached and they have the best pass defense in the league while the Titans have a bottom one. Jags have the fastest LBs in the league to cover backs out of the backfield. They have the best secondary in football. Cooks and Amendola are in for a long day. Gronk will be facing someone in Jack who can run with him and be physical. Anyone thinking this is a cake walk for the Pats will be very surprised come Sunday.
(01-16-2018, 01:18 PM)Kane Wrote: [ -> ] (01-16-2018, 01:05 PM)BostonBlackie Wrote: [ -> ]That's funny, I haven't seen any Pats fans say the Jags aren't any good.
Right, just letting us know how much better your team is. Bringing up the tack game. Countering what we've done well with remarks about the teams we beat being not that good or not as good as the Pats....
We get it... Tom Turrific and co are perfect.
It's OK though...
we're the red headed step child of the league. And apparently the team wears it like a badge of honor.
Believe it or not, the Patriots can also be called the red headed step child. Goodell hates Bill and the world hates the Patriots.
(01-16-2018, 01:08 PM)Boston_Prince Wrote: [ -> ] (01-16-2018, 01:00 PM)JNev Wrote: [ -> ]I bet your “D” gets laughed at a lot...
Our defense is really underrated. How many teams put up 40+ point on us this year? We've held teams to the least amount of points better than ANY other team and ultimately, ranked 5th in the league. Can't be laughed at that much. I think it gets overshadowed because of Brady and the offense.
(01-16-2018, 01:05 PM)BostonBlackie Wrote: [ -> ]That's funny, I haven't seen any Pats fans say the Jags aren't any good.
Me either. We've been dealing with Steelers fans and Bills fans for years now, welcome to the NFL. Get used to it. No one said your team is bad, that's stupidity in its face to think otherwise.
Steelers and Bills fans are always salty at Patriots fans..... wonder why?
He meant your other D.
There was one particular poster who is now banned who said something about Tom Turrific shredding us.
And I'm not surprised you guys can't see your own smugness when you post.
(01-16-2018, 01:27 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]Marrone over Mularkey.
Jags D over Titans D.
Not saying the Jags will win but they’re nothing like the Titans. They’re better coached and they have the best pass defense in the league while the Titans have a bottom one. Jags have the fastest LBs in the league to cover backs out of the backfield. They have the best secondary in football. Cooks and Amendola are in for a long day. Gronk will be facing someone in Jack who can run with him and be physical. Anyone thinking this is a cake walk for the Pats will be very surprised come Sunday.
There are similarities but I agree, your defense is much better but has given up a lot of points to some teams.
This game won't be about Cooks, this game will be about the RBs and we have the quickest, shiftiest combinations in the league. This, to me, is where your defense struggles. White, Lewis and Burkhead can really have a field day. As Jimmy G showed us, quick passes over the middle is the best way to beat a solid, pass rushing defense like yours and guess where he learned that from? LOL
(01-16-2018, 01:26 PM)Boston_Prince Wrote: [ -> ] (01-16-2018, 01:18 PM)Scarecrow Wrote: [ -> ]This is the point.
Most of my point wasn't necessarily X's and O's in terms of Coughlin and the Pats. Coughlin brings more from an attitude, preparation, etc. He helped change the attitude around this team and that can't be discounted. He's been in these situations before too. Don't get me wrong, I think this is Marrone's team and he will be the one making the decisions this week but the year long influence of Tom Coughlin can't be ignored either.
This game is going to be tougher than most think. The Jags have no chance of winning this game easy but they have an us vs the world mentality combined with young, hungry talent that can be dangerous against anyone. When the Jaguars defense is on it's game this team CAN beat the Patriots and anyone else in front of them.
Your OL better be ready for relentless pressure. Pitt did a good job of containing them last week for most of the game but these boys are going to have an even larger chip on their shoulder than normal.
One key that I think we will have trouble with is running the ball and that's going to have to happen. Your run defense is stout and we will ride the run game/play action game hard.
I live in a part of the country where I don't get to see many Patriot games though I have great respect for the GOAT and Bill Belichick.
How does your defense do against play action? That seems to be what Bortles thrives with but it also is reliant on getting the run game going which won't be easy against your defense.
How does your defense do against mobile QBs? Bortles is deceptively mobile for a QB of his size and he can extend drives (we've seen it in both post season games this year too) with his legs when he has to.
Here's to a hard hitting game with hopefully no injuries on either side.
Agreed, this game will be a good one. But the last time we faced Coughlin, we beat him at home.
As far as our defense dealing with running QBs, see last week's game. Honestly, I think Mariotta is better than Bortles in almost every faucet of the game. We sacked him 8 times. Steelers have a better OL but our o-line has shaped up a lot and is playing better at the right time (See this every year). Brady is the best at nullifying pass rushing teams, the BEST. Sure, there will be QB pressures and plays where he goes down, your front 4 is pretty good but Brady has seen these types of defenses forever.
As you mentioned, our run defenses is much better than the Steeler's is so shutting down the run and forcing Bortles to make plays with his arm would be our best bet to me. If Brady scores early and often, it would be tough. On the other side, if we are flat and your defensive line can make enough plays to get Brady of his timing, it could be a long night for us as well. The Steelers have all the talent in the world with dumb coaches who were unprepared. Don't expect that will Bill and Brady.
Your key absolutely must be stop the run and make Blake win the game. That should be everyone's plan against the Jaguars and it would provide you with the best chance to win.
Brady is the best to ever play. That's not a question at this moment in time. There hasn't been anyone better than Tom Brady. I do worry some that we won't be able to get to him fast enough. Brady is the king of getting the ball out of his hands quickly and efficiently. He's so smart with the football and where to go with it. It's incredible and any other day it would be fun for me to watch as a fan. When they aren't playing the Jaguars I enjoy watching Brady and the Pats. They are the best at what they do and they continue to make history.
Mariotta may be better than Bortles in almost everything but I think Jaguars coaching >>>> Titans coaching and that will help. Bortles is capable of doing enough to win but it's going to be harder than ever against a Belichick defense.
No I don't expect any of the coaching mistakes we saw last week by Tomlin to happen this week. As Brady is the GOAT on the field, Belichick is the GOAT off of the field. He's as good of a football mind as we likely will ever see.
(01-16-2018, 01:18 PM)Kane Wrote: [ -> ]we're the red headed step child of the league. And apparently the team wears it like a badge of honor.
Red headed step child of the league? Ha ha, nice try. You're one the top 3 or 4 teams in the NFL. If you think anyone in NE is buying your country boy act, think again. We'll be ready.
(01-16-2018, 01:33 PM)Scarecrow Wrote: [ -> ] (01-16-2018, 01:26 PM)Boston_Prince Wrote: [ -> ]Agreed, this game will be a good one. But the last time we faced Coughlin, we beat him at home.
As far as our defense dealing with running QBs, see last week's game. Honestly, I think Mariotta is better than Bortles in almost every faucet of the game. We sacked him 8 times. Steelers have a better OL but our o-line has shaped up a lot and is playing better at the right time (See this every year). Brady is the best at nullifying pass rushing teams, the BEST. Sure, there will be QB pressures and plays where he goes down, your front 4 is pretty good but Brady has seen these types of defenses forever.
As you mentioned, our run defenses is much better than the Steeler's is so shutting down the run and forcing Bortles to make plays with his arm would be our best bet to me. If Brady scores early and often, it would be tough. On the other side, if we are flat and your defensive line can make enough plays to get Brady of his timing, it could be a long night for us as well. The Steelers have all the talent in the world with dumb coaches who were unprepared. Don't expect that will Bill and Brady.
Your key absolutely must be stop the run and make Blake win the game. That should be everyone's plan against the Jaguars and it would provide you with the best chance to win.
Brady is the best to ever play. That's not a question at this moment in time. There hasn't been anyone better than Tom Brady. I do worry some that we won't be able to get to him fast enough. Brady is the king of getting the ball out of his hands quickly and efficiently. He's so smart with the football and where to go with it. It's incredible and any other day it would be fun for me to watch as a fan. When they aren't playing the Jaguars I enjoy watching Brady and the Pats. They are the best at what they do and they continue to make history.
Mariotta may be better than Bortles in almost everything but I think Jaguars coaching >>>> Titans coaching and that will help. Bortles is capable of doing enough to win but it's going to be harder than ever against a Belichick defense.
No I don't expect any of the coaching mistakes we saw last week by Tomlin to happen this week. As Brady is the GOAT on the field, Belichick is the GOAT off of the field. He's as good of a football mind as we likely will ever see.
Agreed. Look, to me, these are the 2 best teams in the AFC right now.
The Steelers are always very talented but not coached well and makes a ton of mistakes. Not sure how much you watch the Pats but we ALWAYS beat the Steelers, so you can maybe thank us a little for them looking past your team last week and looking onto their supposed "rematch" with us LOL. You guys seized on it and did your thing. if you guys get a QB..... say Alex Smith or Drew Brees..... lawd have mercy!
(01-16-2018, 01:34 PM)BostonBlackie Wrote: [ -> ] (01-16-2018, 01:18 PM)Kane Wrote: [ -> ]we're the red headed step child of the league. And apparently the team wears it like a badge of honor.
Red headed step child of the league? Ha ha, nice try. You're one the top 3 or 4 teams in the NFL. If you think anyone in NE is buying your country lawyer act, think again. We'll be ready.
All year long we've been not good enough to most pundits. Only recently have more jumped on board.
It was the D is good, but the run D.......
Then it was But Blake Bortles is still their QB
then it was the end of the season skid....
then only putting up 10 VS Bills
then its "oh but you let one of the best offenses score 42"
Now we're hearing you guys will just do what the sorry tacks did...
or... our offense won't be able to move the ball like we did vs the steelers to your D.
That's OK though really. I wouldn't expect a Pats fan to give the Jags a chance in Hell. And I wouldn't expect most media types to change their tune going into a game facing the previous SB winner.
But when you guys come on here and tell us all the things going great with your team, you're going to be met with relative disdain and be treated as hostile.
You aren't trolling though, which is nice.
Just have your head shoved up Tom's turrific anus so you can't see the [BLEEP] storm heading to Bawstun
Maybe I'm the only one but I find the few Pats fans that have migrated the board to be a positive. They seem intelligent and post well thought out responses. I welcome them to the board and the insight they can bring. These posters are refreshing compared to the last few weeks.
(01-16-2018, 01:39 PM)Kane Wrote: [ -> ] (01-16-2018, 01:34 PM)BostonBlackie Wrote: [ -> ]Red headed step child of the league? Ha ha, nice try. You're one the top 3 or 4 teams in the NFL. If you think anyone in NE is buying your country lawyer act, think again. We'll be ready.
All year long we've been not good enough to most pundits. Only recently have more jumped on board.
It was the D is good, but the run D.......
Then it was But Blake Bortles is still their QB
then it was the end of the season skid....
then only putting up 10 VS Bills
then its "oh but you let one of the best offenses score 42"
Now we're hearing you guys will just do what the sorry tacks did...
or... our offense won't be able to move the ball like we did vs the steelers to your D.
That's OK though really. I wouldn't expect a Pats fan to give the Jags a chance in Hell. And I wouldn't expect most media types to change their tune going into a game facing the previous SB winner.
But when you guys come on here and tell us all the things going great with your team, you're going to be met with relative disdain and be treated as hostile.
You aren't trolling though, which is nice.
Just have your head shoved up Tom's turrific anus so you can't see the [BLEEP] storm heading to Bawstun
Clean up your act. Playing the victim card is out of date.
(01-16-2018, 01:38 PM)Boston_Prince Wrote: [ -> ] (01-16-2018, 01:33 PM)Scarecrow Wrote: [ -> ]Your key absolutely must be stop the run and make Blake win the game. That should be everyone's plan against the Jaguars and it would provide you with the best chance to win.
Brady is the best to ever play. That's not a question at this moment in time. There hasn't been anyone better than Tom Brady. I do worry some that we won't be able to get to him fast enough. Brady is the king of getting the ball out of his hands quickly and efficiently. He's so smart with the football and where to go with it. It's incredible and any other day it would be fun for me to watch as a fan. When they aren't playing the Jaguars I enjoy watching Brady and the Pats. They are the best at what they do and they continue to make history.
Mariotta may be better than Bortles in almost everything but I think Jaguars coaching >>>> Titans coaching and that will help. Bortles is capable of doing enough to win but it's going to be harder than ever against a Belichick defense.
No I don't expect any of the coaching mistakes we saw last week by Tomlin to happen this week. As Brady is the GOAT on the field, Belichick is the GOAT off of the field. He's as good of a football mind as we likely will ever see.
Agreed. Look, to me, these are the 2 best teams in the AFC right now.
The Steelers are always very talented but not coached well and makes a ton of mistakes. Not sure how much you watch the Pats but we ALWAYS beat the Steelers, so you can maybe thank us a little for them looking past your team last week and looking onto their supposed "rematch" with us LOL. You guys seized on it and did your thing. if you guys get a QB..... say Alex Smith or Drew Brees..... lawd have mercy!
I would agree with that too. All things considered I say the playoffs have churned out the best two teams the AFC has to offer right now.
The attitude of the Steelers was straight awful. They got popped in the mouth a few times for it too. They are an experienced team that should know better.
I don't see us getting Alex Smith or Drew Brees though Drew Brees would be a dream here. The Jaguars are missing more than a QB on offense though. They need an interior OL and a pass catching TE specifically. I would feel a lot more confident about this game with a healthy Allen Robinson playing WR for the Jaguars too.
(01-16-2018, 01:43 PM)BostonBlackie Wrote: [ -> ] (01-16-2018, 01:39 PM)Kane Wrote: [ -> ]All year long we've been not good enough to most pundits. Only recently have more jumped on board.
It was the D is good, but the run D.......
Then it was But Blake Bortles is still their QB
then it was the end of the season skid....
then only putting up 10 VS Bills
then its "oh but you let one of the best offenses score 42"
Now we're hearing you guys will just do what the sorry tacks did...
or... our offense won't be able to move the ball like we did vs the steelers to your D.
That's OK though really. I wouldn't expect a Pats fan to give the Jags a chance in Hell. And I wouldn't expect most media types to change their tune going into a game facing the previous SB winner.
But when you guys come on here and tell us all the things going great with your team, you're going to be met with relative disdain and be treated as hostile.
You aren't trolling though, which is nice.
Just have your head shoved up Tom's turrific anus so you can't see the [BLEEP] storm heading to Bawstun
Clean up your act. Playing the victim card is out of date.
Apparently you have never seen the bile the national media sends our way.
It is so ingrained, most fans don't see it as such. Just normal.