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Joe staley, I think Lynch would be willing to move him. Their season is shot.

(10-07-2018, 11:58 PM)jessepeck1213 Wrote: [ -> ]Joe staley, I think Lynch would be willing to move him. Their season is shot.

Why? Staley is 34 years old and currently sidelined with an injury himself.

(10-07-2018, 09:43 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]Too soon to start the Kessler talk IMO.

Hell no....

What a sad pathetic fan base that we start garbage threads like this. I would’ve thought a trip to the AFC Championship would’ve held us out until at least the Bye week, but even a 1st place team in their division and the 3rd best record in the AFC can’t hold off this nonsense

(10-08-2018, 12:48 AM)JNev Wrote: [ -> ]What a sad pathetic fan base that we start garbage threads like this. I would’ve thought a trip to the AFC Championship would’ve held us out until at least the Bye week, but even a 1st place team in their division and the 3rd best record in the AFC can’t hold off this nonsense

We arent first in the division...

(10-07-2018, 10:02 PM)iHaunting Raven Wrote: [ -> ]I'd give Matt Moore a chance but this team (Caldwell) is gonna go with Bortles all season and probably next too.

Today was sad because the Jags picked Fournette when Mahomes and Watson were available because Caldwell is stubbornly tied to Bortles. It’s OK to admit you made a drafting mistake. For as good as he is at spotting talent, his inability to cut his losses is his Achilles heel. Joekel also stuck around a year too long.

(10-07-2018, 09:35 PM)imtheblkranger Wrote: [ -> ]Kessler is not better than Blake.

Maybe, maybe not. The real question is whether he is better for our team. I think that's a very legitimate question. These are the rate+ stats for the half season that Kessler got to start, as a rookie no less.

YPA+ 98, ANY/A+ 96, Comp%+ 112, TD%+ 85, INT%+ 124, Passrating+ 105

Those actually aren't half bad, I was surprised at how functional Kessler was when I looked up the numbers. And he was working with even worse weapons than Bortles is now, as a rookie. I don't think we need to go look at how Bortles' rookie year numbers were, let's just say they pale in comparison.

But looking closer, the traits that would appear to mesh best with Doug "I wouldn't take 15 more TDs if it meant 5 more INTs" Marrone's philosophy just so happen to be Kessler's best traits...so I don't think it's a question that can simply be brushed away.

(10-08-2018, 02:53 AM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-07-2018, 09:35 PM)imtheblkranger Wrote: [ -> ]Kessler is not better than Blake.

Maybe, maybe not. The real question is whether he is better for our team. I think that's a very legitimate question. 

They wouldn't have made him our back-up if they didn't think it's possible. You're only as good as your next man. He's a play action QB who doesn't turn the ball over much. With this defense it's all you need.

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I do have a problem with anyone saying Kessler isn't better than Bortles. Based on what? His stint with a garbage Cleveland team? How can you properly evaluate him? I'm not saying he is better than Blake but be real here. You can't say he's not either.

Whichever side you're on in this debate, I think Bortles is the starter the remainder of the season, barring injury, of course. It's what a trip to the AFC Championship game affords you.

our back up qb had a loseing record. he was starting qb 15 games,and went 0-15

(10-08-2018, 07:39 AM)snowwolf776 Wrote: [ -> ]our back up qb had a loseing record.  he was starting qb 15 games,and went 0-15

So we’re just making [BLEEP] up now? Cool.

(10-07-2018, 11:29 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-07-2018, 11:19 PM)Eye of the Storm Wrote: [ -> ]It’s not even worth responding to you anymore because outside of spacecoast you’re the biggest Bortles apologist on the board. Facts don’t matter to you because you’re just going to see things the way you want to, and that’s fine. But I’ve been watching football for about 40 years and I know a bad quarterback when I see one and Bortles is a bad quarterback. I’ll root for this team for as long as we have them, but you’ll never convince me that we are going to win a championship with Blake as the quarterback. Have a good night sir.

Hey guess what? Nobody gives two flying [BLEEP] about your opinion, which you keep trying to speak as if it's  gospel... Just shut up.

and you spouting endless defense of bortles, a trash QB, doesn't make him as good as you say either, so shut up

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(10-08-2018, 12:48 AM)JNev Wrote: [ -> ]What a sad pathetic fan base that we start garbage threads like this. I would’ve thought a trip to the AFC Championship would’ve held us out until at least the Bye week, but even a 1st place team in their division and the 3rd best record in the AFC can’t hold off this nonsense

not sure what you are looking at, but if playoffs were today, the jags are sitting at home watching

(10-08-2018, 07:39 AM)snowwolf776 Wrote: [ -> ]our back up qb had a loseing record.  he was starting qb 15 games,and went 0-15

my mistake had 1 win in his carrer. mainly cause our kicker at the time was chargers kicker,and missed a fg.  



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cody_Kessler

(10-08-2018, 03:22 AM)Jagsfan4life9/28/82 Wrote: [ -> ]Whichever side you're on in this debate, I think Bortles is the starter the remainder of the season, barring injury, of course. It's what a trip to the AFC Championship game affords you.

Hello sanity.

Blake was up and down last season too but strung together some good stretches that helped the Jags win the division. The Jags have lost 2 games this season and 1 of them was to the 2nd best team in the league. If the Jags offense plays this poorly against the Cowboys and Texans in the next 2 weeks, then we have some issues.

(10-08-2018, 08:14 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-08-2018, 03:22 AM)Jagsfan4life9/28/82 Wrote: [ -> ]Whichever side you're on in this debate, I think Bortles is the starter the remainder of the season, barring injury, of course. It's what a trip to the AFC Championship game affords you.

Hello sanity.

Blake was up and down last season too but strung together some good stretches that helped the Jags win the division. The Jags have lost 2 games this season and 1 of them was to the 2nd best team in the league. If the Jags offense plays this poorly against the Cowboys and Texans in the next 2 weeks, then we have some issues.

This place had more optimism when we started 0-4.

We weren't going 16-0. Everyone gets so upset when we have a loss.

Kessler will not be an improvement. Maybe he is even if the oline is intact. With the current state of our line we need Blakes ability to move in the pocket and make things happen.

Extremely disappointed by our Wiley Cayote inspired offense today, but I don’t think a QB change will help.

Kessler is still an uncertainty. One Season with Cleveland. Limited weapons and a good OL. They had a lot of close games that year. But...as bad as the OL got handled by the Chiefs, Kessler would have still struggled. Could he have made better reads and pre-snap adjustments than Bortles? Possibly. But, still may have not been enough to beat the Chiefs with as well as they played.

When Patrick Mahomes is special.. I know I'm done with the NFL. It's just a garbage product.

This board, man.

Frankly, this entire team has been playing sloppy all season. I'm not sure why. Little mistakes, penalties, mental errors around. Ramsey seems like he's loafing, or injured, or marginally worse than we thought. Our receivers can't catch when it hits them in the hands, and our QB misses them when they can. Our running backs are all hurt, and our o-line is a patchwork mess now.

Blake played horribly, yeah. But we have a slew of issues that this coaching staff needs to tighten up or we aren't making the playoffs.

(10-08-2018, 09:03 AM)JaguarKick Wrote: [ -> ]This board, man.

Frankly, this entire team has been playing sloppy all season.  I'm not sure why.  Little mistakes, penalties, mental errors around.  Ramsey seems like he's loafing, or injured, or marginally worse than we thought.  Our receivers can't catch when it hits them in the hands, and our QB misses them when they can.  Our running backs are all hurt, and our o-line is a patchwork mess now.

Blake played horribly, yeah.  But we have a slew of issues that this coaching staff needs to tighten up or we aren't making the playoffs.

And after all that, they're 3-2. It's pretty remarkable.

They haven't even played close to their best football (I still think the defense is playing exceptional) and yet they're 3-2 and tied with the Titans for the division lead. Win @Dallas, home to the Texans and the Eagles in London? You're 6-2. Those are all winnable games and games the Jags will most likely be favored in all of them. If there is anything that the Jags have done under Marrone, it's that they almost always bounce back. The defense will be angry next week. The offense will want to prove they're better than what they showed. This team is resilient and I expect a beat down in Dallas.