(08-09-2020, 09:59 AM)JagNGeorgia Wrote: [ -> ] (08-08-2020, 02:22 AM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ]What is the definition of a protest?
When there’a violence, its not a protest. It’s a riot. They can assign whatever noble motive they want to it, but it isn’t a protest.
I agree. When police act violently with protestors it should give them every right to riot.
(08-09-2020, 03:24 PM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ] (08-09-2020, 02:31 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]No way dude.
Blood for blood and life for life.
No one should lose their life on account of property destruction.
If you are convicted of destroying someone's property, the only penalty should be paying them back and being in jail for a while.
These fools have no property, money, etc. They don't have jobs or if they do they are minimum wage, part-time jobs that allow them to be out all hours of the night. They have no money to repay for your property being damaged. Are you going to force them to get a real job and not a job that 15-17 year olds get during the summer so they can repay you in maybe 20 years?
Maybe you want to bring back indentured servants?
I want to leave this part of the law alone. What I said above is the way things are now.
(08-09-2020, 02:31 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (08-09-2020, 01:17 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Private property law is all that keep us civilized. We need to end those who flout them whatever the reasoning.
No way dude.
Blood for blood and life for life.
No one should lose their life on account of property destruction.
If you are convicted of destroying someone's property, the only penalty should be paying them back and being in jail for a while.
All I can say is if there were a bunch of skinny jeans wearing, man bun wearing losers trying to destroy my personal property I will put a stop to it. Two to the torso and one to the head will usually do the trick. The only dilemma that I have is which
protester rioter elimination tool to use.
(08-09-2020, 04:33 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: [ -> ] (08-09-2020, 02:31 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]No way dude.
Blood for blood and life for life.
No one should lose their life on account of property destruction.
If you are convicted of destroying someone's property, the only penalty should be paying them back and being in jail for a while.
All I can say is if there were a bunch of skinny jeans wearing, man bun wearing losers trying to destroy my personal property I will put a stop to it. Two to the torso and one to the head will usually do the trick. The only dilemma that I have is which protester rioter elimination tool to use.
Don't you know that your life isn't as important as the perpetually aggrieved? You should be actively finding ways to give them your stuff so they don't have to destroy it in protest of their
laziness oppression.
(08-09-2020, 04:33 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: [ -> ] (08-09-2020, 02:31 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]No way dude.
Blood for blood and life for life.
No one should lose their life on account of property destruction.
If you are convicted of destroying someone's property, the only penalty should be paying them back and being in jail for a while.
All I can say is if there were a bunch of skinny jeans wearing, man bun wearing losers trying to destroy my personal property I will put a stop to it. Two to the torso and one to the head will usually do the trick. The only dilemma that I have is which protester rioter elimination tool to use.
Ok, well, for your sake I hope it never comes to that, because you would end up in prison, probably for life, if they caught you... All over some broken windows. Not a great choice. Just my opinion.
(08-09-2020, 04:50 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (08-09-2020, 04:33 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: [ -> ]All I can say is if there were a bunch of skinny jeans wearing, man bun wearing losers trying to destroy my personal property I will put a stop to it. Two to the torso and one to the head will usually do the trick. The only dilemma that I have is which protester rioter elimination tool to use.
Don't you know that your life isn't as important as the perpetually aggrieved? You should be actively finding ways to give them your stuff so they don't have to destroy it in protest of their laziness oppression.
His life is just as important as anybody else's.
His property is not as important as anyone's life.
(08-09-2020, 04:04 PM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ] (08-09-2020, 09:59 AM)JagNGeorgia Wrote: [ -> ]When there’a violence, its not a protest. It’s a riot. They can assign whatever noble motive they want to it, but it isn’t a protest.
I agree. When police act violently with protestors it should give them every right to riot.
Expect it’s almost never in that order.
(08-09-2020, 05:32 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (08-09-2020, 04:33 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: [ -> ]All I can say is if there were a bunch of skinny jeans wearing, man bun wearing losers trying to destroy my personal property I will put a stop to it. Two to the torso and one to the head will usually do the trick. The only dilemma that I have is which protester rioter elimination tool to use.
Ok, well, for your sake I hope it never comes to that, because you would end up in prison, probably for life, if they caught you... All over some broken windows. Not a great choice. Just my opinion.
(08-09-2020, 04:50 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Don't you know that your life isn't as important as the perpetually aggrieved? You should be actively finding ways to give them your stuff so they don't have to destroy it in protest of their laziness oppression.
His life is just as important as anybody else's.
His property is not as important as anyone's life.
What is your address? As a 1/8 native American I would like some reparations and since clearly you don’t have an issue with property rights I’ll come to your house to collect 300+ years of oppression.
(08-09-2020, 06:39 PM)copycat Wrote: [ -> ] (08-09-2020, 05:32 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]Ok, well, for your sake I hope it never comes to that, because you would end up in prison, probably for life, if they caught you... All over some broken windows. Not a great choice. Just my opinion.
His life is just as important as anybody else's.
His property is not as important as anyone's life.
What is your address? As a 1/8 native American I would like some reparations and since clearly you don’t have an issue with property rights I’ll come to your house to collect 300+ years of oppression.
I would make sure you are prosecuted for robbery. There are cameras all around. If I'm home, I might tell you to leave or else face deadly force. But I'd give you the chance to leave. Sounded to me like JIB wasn't going to give that kind of chance.
(08-09-2020, 09:52 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (08-09-2020, 06:39 PM)copycat Wrote: [ -> ]What is your address? As a 1/8 native American I would like some reparations and since clearly you don’t have an issue with property rights I’ll come to your house to collect 300+ years of oppression.
I would make sure you are prosecuted for robbery. There are cameras all around. If I'm home, I might tell you to leave or else face deadly force. But I'd give you the chance to leave. Sounded to me like JIB wasn't going to give that kind of chance.
Deadly force? For what? He just wants some of your property. That shouldn't cost him his life. You are so contradictory.
(08-09-2020, 06:22 PM)JagNGeorgia Wrote: [ -> ] (08-09-2020, 04:04 PM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ]I agree. When police act violently with protestors it should give them every right to riot.
Expect it’s almost never in that order.
We just had 6 months worth of video showing just that
(08-09-2020, 11:46 PM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ] (08-09-2020, 06:22 PM)JagNGeorgia Wrote: [ -> ]Expect it’s almost never in that order.
We just had 6 months worth of video showing just that
When you think any use of force is unjustified, you’re going to think the video is showing that.
(08-10-2020, 01:05 AM)JagNGeorgia Wrote: [ -> ] (08-09-2020, 11:46 PM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ]We just had 6 months worth of video showing just that
When you think any use of force is unjustified, you’re going to think the video is showing that.
And when you think peaceful protesters deserve to be tear gassed and violently dealt with you won't accept it anyway
What are you watching? What's your primary news source?
(08-10-2020, 01:51 AM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ] (08-10-2020, 01:05 AM)JagNGeorgia Wrote: [ -> ]When you think any use of force is unjustified, you’re going to think the video is showing that.
And when you think peaceful protesters deserve to be tear gassed and violently dealt with you won't accept it anyway
Once the peaceful protestors devolve into rioting then the next group of peaceful protestors doesn't really get the benefit of the doubt. And there's PLENTY of video showing the police showing far more restraint than I personally would, significantly more than the number of videos we have of rioters doing the Burn, Loot, Murder deal.
When are you guys going to learn to stop reacting to one-liner provocative statements that are usually baseless or ill-informed?
(08-10-2020, 11:36 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (08-10-2020, 01:51 AM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ]And when you think peaceful protesters deserve to be tear gassed and violently dealt with you won't accept it anyway
Once the peaceful protestors devolve into rioting then the next group of peaceful protestors doesn't really get the benefit of the doubt. And there's PLENTY of video showing the police showing far more restraint than I personally would, significantly more than the number of videos we have of rioters doing the Burn, Loot, Murder deal.
peaceful protests have been turning into riots due to police antagonizing.
And yes you've already stated you would kill people protesting
(08-10-2020, 02:40 PM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ] (08-10-2020, 11:36 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Once the peaceful protestors devolve into rioting then the next group of peaceful protestors doesn't really get the benefit of the doubt. And there's PLENTY of video showing the police showing far more restraint than I personally would, significantly more than the number of videos we have of rioters doing the Burn, Loot, Murder deal.
peaceful protests have been turning into riots due to police antagonizing.
And yes you've already stated you would kill people protesting
That's not true at all, my friend. Not even close to true. But hey, keep believing Euro Al Jazeera... because all European media is just as biased as American
(08-10-2020, 02:40 PM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ] (08-10-2020, 11:36 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Once the peaceful protestors devolve into rioting then the next group of peaceful protestors doesn't really get the benefit of the doubt. And there's PLENTY of video showing the police showing far more restraint than I personally would, significantly more than the number of videos we have of rioters doing the Burn, Loot, Murder deal.
peaceful protests have been turning into riots due to police antagonizing.
And yes you've already stated you would kill people protesting
Yep peacefully protesting because the police shot a criminal who shot first at the cops. They didn't even kill him. Attacking cops, robbing businesses, etc is so peaceful. I guess the cops should just wall off the south side, close the bridges, and shut down the trains and buses. Let them "peacefully" protest there.