Quote:It's not what you think.. it's what you expect. If I accidentally killed someone, I would expect a minimal sentence. Not sure why that is hard to believe or why you're treating it like a "gotcha" question.
A family member of mine hit and killed someone that got off of a bus. This person upon leaving the bus walked to the rear of the bus, crossed behind the bus and into oncoming traffic. As soon as this person stepped into the oncoming traffic while being shielded by said bus as it pulled away this person was struck by said family member. Whom is at fault here?
Quote:He said he was only pretending to be [BLEEP].
Which is a relief. I expect better from him. In my defense I was catching up and responding in order.
Quote:The cop.
So we riot and get free TV's?
Quote:You're working on your roof. You slip and fall off. You land on the neighbor who was helping you and break his neck. Jail time? Hardly.
Sadly, this isn't like falling off a roof.
Quote:Sadly, this isn't like falling off a roof.
No, it was a justifiable shooting while engaged in police work. Or not. That's for the court to decide.
Quote:Man, you must be in really good shape the way you leap to conclusions.
So the man wasn't innocent?
How was he guilty? Exactly what conclusion did I jump to?
Quote:You can use whatever term you want on them, but saying she is corrupt and used excessive force could be proven wrong following an investigation. You want to believe those things are true, but they could just as easily be proven false.
As for rioters, we have a ton of evidence of their destruction based on the numerous media coverage, cameras everywhere, eye witnesses, and more. The shooting didn't have nearly this much clarity. They really aren't comparable.
Following the initial investigation, she was charged with manslaughter. Now she will stand trail. I know it's hard for a blind follower to understand the criminal justice system. But try to keep up.
Quote:So let me try to understand you because your vitriol is quite frankly alarming and over the top. You do know what manslaughter means right? Here I will help you just in case: "the crime of killing a human being without malice aforethought, or otherwise in circumstances not amounting to murder." I am not condoning her actions, she was in over her head and in hindsight should not have been wearing the uniform. Your ire however is way over the top. I thought you liberals were compassionate and looked at all sides. Perhaps not.
What side am I not looking at. Did she not kill an unarmed man? Did she not get charged with manslaughter.
As an American, I beleive in the constitution and I prefer to look at the facts. I'm pointing out facts. Sorry that your side of the arguement has to deal with a stupid cop that is terrible at her job. But the fact remains. She killed an unarmed man. He was innocent until proven guilty of whatever he was pulled over for and didn't deserve to die.
She's standing trail for manslaughter. Based on the video tape, the state of Oklahoma feels there's enough evidence to charge her with manslaughter which carries a 4 year minimum sentance if convicted.
What's vitriolic about those facts?
By the way, calling black protesters animals and saying they are terrorists is pretty vitriolic as well. But it's cool to demagogue blacks, right? Who cares about those animals.
Quote:No, it was a justifiable shooting while engaged in police work. Or not. That's for the court to decide.
Who said it was a justifiable shooting? Sounds like you are the [BLEEP] that is jumping to conclusions now... The state thought the shooting was not justified, that's why the state charged her with manslaughter. Perhaps you agree that I'm [BLEEP] because you can recognize your own kind?
I just watched the helicopter and dashcam video. I don't see any reason this man should have been shot. There were between 2-5 officers available, there was no reason they couldn't just physically subdue him with or without the assistance of tasers. They could have taken him down long before he got back to the Navigator.
I'm a big advocate in gun rights and responsible gun ownership. One of the first things they teach in firearm training is to only point your weapon at things you wish to kill/destroy. Her gun didn't unholster itself, point and fire with its own mind. She chose to draw her weapon and shoot the man in the video.
Possibly there is something that is not immediately obvious in the released videos to justify the killing of another man. As of what is available right now though, she definitely deserved to be charged with a crime and to have to stand trial in my eyes. From here hopefully the courts get all the facts and are able to make the correct ruling.
Quote:What side am I not looking at. Did she not kill an unarmed man? Did she not get charged with manslaughter.
As an American, I beleive in the constitution and I prefer to look at the facts. I'm pointing out facts. Sorry that your side of the arguement has to deal with a stupid cop that is terrible at her job. But the fact remains. She killed an unarmed man. He was innocent until proven guilty of whatever he was pulled over for and didn't deserve to die.
She's standing trail for manslaughter. Based on the video tape, the state of Oklahoma feels there's enough evidence to charge her with manslaughter which carries a 4 year minimum sentance if convicted.
What's vitriolic about those facts?
By the way, calling black protesters animals and saying they are terrorists is pretty vitriolic as well. But it's cool to demagogue blacks, right? Who cares about those animals.
The only
fact that you are pointing out is that she killed an unarmed man.
She probably was pretty good at her job and made a mistake.
The State of Oklahoma doesn't feel that there is enough evidence "based on the video tape". There is probably other evidence involved in making the decision to charge her.
Based on what more that I've read about the incident, it gets even more bizarre. It seems that it started with a 911 call from a woman who said an abandoned car was blocking the street and a man was running away. The man warned that it was going to blow up. The video that's been released shows her confronting the man
from the passenger side of her patrol car. Audio from the helicopter says something to the affect that "
he's got his hands up for her now", and happens at a time when other patrol units are arriving.
Looking at the statute for Oklahoma regarding first degree manslaughter, I wouldn't be surprised if there is either a plea down to a lesser charge, or she gets acquitted. Prosecutors would have a hard time proving first degree manslaughter beyond a reasonable doubt to 12 jurors.
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Hey Beachbunnie... Just pointing out where this all began...
Quote:Hey Beachbunnie... Just pointing out where this all began...
You aren't the only one, so stop complaining.
Quote:You're working on your roof. You slip and fall off. You land on the neighbor who was helping you and break his neck. Jail time? Hardly.
That's kind of a stretch. I think your analogy would be better along these lines:
You're working on your roof, and a guy walks by and looks at your ladder. You ask him what he's doing, and when he starts to walk away rather than answer, you cannonball off the roof and splatter his brains on the pavement.
Quote:That's kind of a stretch. I think your analogy would be better along these lines:
You're working on your roof, and a guy walks by and looks at your ladder. You ask him what he's doing, and when he starts to walk away rather than answer, you cannonball off the roof and splatter his brains on the pavement.
My analogy has nothing in common with the incident, it simply disproves his blanket statement about jail time.
Quote:So the man wasn't innocent?
How was he guilty? Exactly what conclusion did I jump to?
So the cop isnt innocent until proven otherwise in a court of law?
Yeah, you take flying leaps Carl Lewis would be proud of.