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Man, I would absolutely love Julius Brents in the 2nd.
(04-24-2023, 12:01 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-24-2023, 11:27 AM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]So, Pauline is saying it's:

Devon Witherspoon
Dionte Banks
Lukas Van Ness

That's what he's hearing and thinking. He said no chance Witherspoon is there. Banks is believed to go earlier than expected.

If Van Ness falls he's probably a Viking. We'll have to trade up more than likely for any of these guys. If he had to pick between Bresee, Van Ness and Nolan Smith.

He likes Smith, Bresee and Van Ness in that order. Unless we trade up? I would say most of us should be prepared to be underwhelmed.

There's been no word surronding us around an offensive player in RD1. But, if Darnell Wright is there. We should be considering him.

He's expecting us to take a CB in RD1 or edge rusher. I would think Cam Smith there at CB, maybe Kelee Ringo and Julius Brents could even be in play for us in RD2.

Regarding Brian Branch. He said he was a top 15 prospect prior to the 4.5 40. He doesnt like him as a nickel/slot CB. He likes him more as a FS due to range and instincts. He would be okay with that selection.
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FWIW - I've heard two other NFL staff veterans big on Deonte Banks to Jags at 24 - including our former staffer Dave Campo. The other I don't recall. I think I read it in a blurb at draft network's site, or PFT maybe?  It was a former coach.

He thinks Banks is probably a top twenty pick. He's heard there's some teams that have him as CB2 or CB3 and potentially higher than Joey Porter Jr. depending on the team and scheme being deployed. 

I am honestly in this camp. I prefer a natural CB Vs. a safety trying to fill the nickel/slot role. I still think we're doubling down at DT/DE and CB this weekend. It's a bit of a concern though. Seems like the offensive line is either being downplayed significantly or this front office is more confident in that squad than most of us around here. 

I just fear we're going to be the Bengals fanbase this year screaming that Lawrence needs more time in the pocket down the stretch. We might go one game further and host or travel for an AFCC game but I just have significant doubts regarding Cam Robinon's play and durability as a LT, Little's lack of overall experience and being tasked with potentially playing RT and Scherff's age and history there at RG. 

Not to mention the LG leaving a big question mark with Bartch and your concerns with a 2nd year Fortner having to show more strength and the ability to keep his head on a swivel and less out of the sand in assisted blocking roles. 

Kind of pisses me off man. This team invested heavily on defense last year in the draft and free agency. Seeing yet again another 1st and 2nd round investment being made potentially on defense would be frustrating.
(04-24-2023, 09:16 AM)Jag149 Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-24-2023, 07:48 AM)JaguarJosh2 Wrote: [ -> ]I have a scary feeling we are going to reach for a pass rush.

Both give me the shivers.  We may actually have the edge guys here already. What they need are the big guys in the middle to push the pocket perhaps? We really have not had that on a regular basis since Darius was here.

I disagree -- I don't think we have edge guys. If you go with needs-based drafting, you've got to open it up to likely needs over two seasons. It puts more positions of need on the table to minimize overreaching. So, with that logic: Josh Allen is probably gone after this season. He'll be asking too much for his level of production, coupled with Trevor's coming extension. Tavon Walker doesn't look like a game wrecker outside. His considerable strength and athleticism is better harnessed by playing him almost exclusively inside. Thus, the edge cupboard is already bare.  

CB is the only other premium position outside of D- or O-line I'd be happy to see addressed at #24. Darius Williams is likely a cap casualty after this season, and one-to-three of Porter/Ringo/Banks/Forbes/Smith should be available at #24. 

The only non-premium position exception I'd make is for Dalton Kincaid, who looks to have a Travis Kelce ceiling and a TJ Hockenson floor. If Kincaid somehow slips to #24, I'd be happy with that selection. Pederson could getting into a scoring war with just about any team, including the Chiefs, with Engram & Kincaid, ETN, and the versatile trio of wideouts.
(04-24-2023, 11:27 AM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]So, Pauline is saying it's:

Devon Witherspoon
Dionte Banks
Lukas Van Ness

That's what he's hearing and thinking. He said no chance Witherspoon is there. Banks is believed to go earlier than expected.

If Van Ness falls he's probably a Viking. We'll have to trade up more than likely for any of these guys. If he had to pick between Bresee, Van Ness and Nolan Smith.

He likes Smith, Bresee and Van Ness in that order. Unless we trade up? I would say most of us should be prepared to be underwhelmed.

There's been no word surronding us around an offensive player in RD1. But, if Darnell Wright is there. We should be considering him.

He's expecting us to take a CB in RD1 or edge rusher. I would think Cam Smith there at CB, maybe Kelee Ringo and Julius Brents could even be in play for us in RD2.

Regarding Brian Branch. He said he was a top 15 prospect prior to the 4.5 40. He doesnt like him as a nickel/slot CB. He likes him more as a FS due to range and instincts. He would be okay with that selection.
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I also heard Pauline this morning. While not infallible, he is one of the better draft analysts out there. You did a great job summarizing his comments. My post interview thoughts are:

1. Van Ness is the most likely pick for the Jaguars since Wright, N. Smith, Banks and Porter are likely gone. I'd be fine with that, although it will take him time to develop.

2. There is still a possibility that Porter falls to Jacksonville if Banks has moved ahead of him. Not likely, but it wouldn't shock me. Would be a great pick.

3. Branch may not be a home-run pick, but he is a great "safety" valve in case the top 3 are gone. He should definitely be available at 24.

4. Pauline is still pretty high on Bryan Bresee. I hope they pass on him, but Pauline's comments would give me hope if he is the pick.

5. I didn't hear him talk about Myles Murphy, but he'd also have to be a consideration at 24. He is "safer" than Van Ness. Probably a higher floor
   but lower ceiling than Van Ness. 

6. If they do go pass rush in round 1, round 2 will be very interesting. Do they take the top corner available or possibly reach for an offensive
    tackle due to lack of quality depth at that position? My hope is that either Cody Mauch or Mathew Bergeron are available and that they would
    be the pick. I have confidence a good nickel will be available in round 3 such as Riley Moss or Garrett Williams. 

7. That's about it for my thoughts on the first 2 days of the draft. I'd be pleased with Murphy/Van Ness in round 1, Mauch/Bergeron in round 2 and
    Williams/Moss in round 3. If a tight end like Washington is there at 56, that would also have to be a possibility.
(04-24-2023, 01:26 PM)TheDogCatcher Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-24-2023, 09:16 AM)Jag149 Wrote: [ -> ]Both give me the shivers.  We may actually have the edge guys here already. What they need are the big guys in the middle to push the pocket perhaps? We really have not had that on a regular basis since Darius was here.

I disagree -- I don't think we have edge guys. If you go with needs-based drafting, you've got to open it up to likely needs over two seasons. It puts more positions of need on the table to minimize overreaching. So, with that logic: Josh Allen is probably gone after this season. He'll be asking too much for his level of production, coupled with Trevor's coming extension. Tavon Walker doesn't look like a game wrecker outside. His considerable strength and athleticism is better harnessed by playing him almost exclusively inside. Thus, the edge cupboard is already bare.  

CB is the only other premium position outside of D- or O-line I'd be happy to see addressed at #24. Darius Williams is likely a cap casualty after this season, and one-to-three of Porter/Ringo/Banks/Forbes/Smith should be available at #24. 

The only non-premium position exception I'd make is for Dalton Kincaid, who looks to have a Travis Kelce ceiling and a TJ Hockenson floor. If Kincaid somehow slips to #24, I'd be happy with that selection. Pederson could getting into a scoring war with just about any team, including the Chiefs, with Engram & Kincaid, ETN, and the versatile trio of wideouts.

Value is trending towards CB and EDGE there at 24. I wouldn't hate the Kincaid selection. Just not sure how you figure out the numbers game with Zay, Christian, Calvin, Evan and Travis already within that line-up offensively. 

Forbes is a play making machine at CB but he's not big enough to take in RD1. He's a bean pole and we'll more than likely see him in RD2 if we want him. I think they're looking at Brian Branch, as a top safety prospect that fits a need at nickel/slot in the short term as a rookie. 

Just not confident in Caldwell's ability to "scheme" as a DC. Naturally, it WAS year one for him so maybe he'll be more consistent and competent with his personnel in year two as a play caller. 

Head:
Adetomiwa Adebawore - 24th
Julius Brents - 56th 

Heart:
Cody Mauch - 24th
Joe Tippmann - 56th 

Gut:
Brian Branch - 24th
Mazi Smith - 56th
(04-24-2023, 01:33 PM)jaglou53 Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-24-2023, 11:27 AM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]So, Pauline is saying it's:

Devon Witherspoon
Dionte Banks
Lukas Van Ness

That's what he's hearing and thinking. He said no chance Witherspoon is there. Banks is believed to go earlier than expected.

If Van Ness falls he's probably a Viking. We'll have to trade up more than likely for any of these guys. If he had to pick between Bresee, Van Ness and Nolan Smith.

He likes Smith, Bresee and Van Ness in that order. Unless we trade up? I would say most of us should be prepared to be underwhelmed.

There's been no word surronding us around an offensive player in RD1. But, if Darnell Wright is there. We should be considering him.

He's expecting us to take a CB in RD1 or edge rusher. I would think Cam Smith there at CB, maybe Kelee Ringo and Julius Brents could even be in play for us in RD2.

Regarding Brian Branch. He said he was a top 15 prospect prior to the 4.5 40. He doesnt like him as a nickel/slot CB. He likes him more as a FS due to range and instincts. He would be okay with that selection.
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I also heard Pauline this morning. While not infallible, he is one of the better draft analysts out there. You did a great job summarizing his comments. My post interview thoughts are:

1. Van Ness is the most likely pick for the Jaguars since Wright, N. Smith, Banks and Porter are likely gone. I'd be fine with that, although it will take him time to develop.

2. There is still a possibility that Porter falls to Jacksonville if Banks has moved ahead of him. Not likely, but it wouldn't shock me. Would be a great pick.

3. Branch may not be a home-run pick, but he is a great "safety" valve in case the top 3 are gone. He should definitely be available at 24.

4. Pauline is still pretty high on Bryan Bresee. I hope they pass on him, but Pauline's comments would give me hope if he is the pick.

5. I didn't hear him talk about Myles Murphy, but he'd also have to be a consideration at 24. He is "safer" than Van Ness. Probably a higher floor
   but lower ceiling than Van Ness. 

6. If they do go pass rush in round 1, round 2 will be very interesting. Do they take the top corner available or possibly reach for an offensive
    tackle due to lack of quality depth at that position? My hope is that either Cody Mauch or Mathew Bergeron are available and that they would
    be the pick. I have confidence a good nickel will be available in round 3 such as Riley Moss or Garrett Williams. 

7. That's about it for my thoughts on the first 2 days of the draft. I'd be pleased with Murphy/Van Ness in round 1, Mauch/Bergeron in round 2 and
    Williams/Moss in round 3. If a tight end like Washington is there at 56, that would also have to be a possibility.

He also mentioned Van Ness is all over the place within the mock community. He may or may not be there at 24. I wouldn't hate the pick. If Porter Jr. is there though I am running my card out to Goodell before the clock is down to 14:00 minutes. He's a steal at that point in my opinion. 

I am just not a fan of Branch. Really boils down to my earlier comments. Can Caldwell properly scheme him into a successful nickel/slot CB and what is the long term plan with him? Because he seems like a waste there and scary in coverage with 4.5 speed in the nickel/slot role primarily. I also agree with value being there much later to fill this need. Riley Moss, Mekhi Blackmon and Garrett Williams would be more ideal. 

I am mortified of Bresee. That would be my nightmare selection to hear this Thursday. The injuries, the mental state, etc. Just not a fan. If he fell to 56? I would consider him. Murphy would also be a fine selection for me. I wouldn't love it. But, I wouldn't hate it. He has a decent skill set as a pass rusher. Would pay off earlier than Van Ness as you pointed out. 

I have to tell you though. I don't think this front office is prioritizing the offensive line early, at all. I would be surprised if they took an offensive player in RD1 and RD2. RD3 would also be surprising at this point. If they do take a tackle or guard I would have to tip my hat to Baalke because he's had me fooled for sure this offseason. 

My heart is telling me to take Cody Mauch 24th overall. Because of his versatility, his feet, his ability to fit more than one need competently on a team that SHOULD be thinking about protecting it's QB more than it is at getting after the opposing QB at the moment. My heart is also telling me to take Joe Tippmann with the 56th overall pick because he's another solid C/OG option and he gives us a very, very good player there to backfill in a pinch if Fortner falters in year two or adds more strength and the eyes of a Center right next to Fortner at LG as a rookie. Again, protecting Lawrence is my priority. Especially with his contract up for extension sooner than people think.
(04-24-2023, 01:43 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-24-2023, 01:26 PM)TheDogCatcher Wrote: [ -> ]I disagree -- I don't think we have edge guys. If you go with needs-based drafting, you've got to open it up to likely needs over two seasons. It puts more positions of need on the table to minimize overreaching. So, with that logic: Josh Allen is probably gone after this season. He'll be asking too much for his level of production, coupled with Trevor's coming extension. Tavon Walker doesn't look like a game wrecker outside. His considerable strength and athleticism is better harnessed by playing him almost exclusively inside. Thus, the edge cupboard is already bare.  

CB is the only other premium position outside of D- or O-line I'd be happy to see addressed at #24. Darius Williams is likely a cap casualty after this season, and one-to-three of Porter/Ringo/Banks/Forbes/Smith should be available at #24. 

The only non-premium position exception I'd make is for Dalton Kincaid, who looks to have a Travis Kelce ceiling and a TJ Hockenson floor. If Kincaid somehow slips to #24, I'd be happy with that selection. Pederson could getting into a scoring war with just about any team, including the Chiefs, with Engram & Kincaid, ETN, and the versatile trio of wideouts.

Value is trending towards CB and EDGE there at 24. I wouldn't hate the Kincaid selection. Just not sure how you figure out the numbers game with Zay, Christian, Calvin, Evan and Travis already within that line-up offensively. 

Forbes is a play making machine at CB but he's not big enough to take in RD1. He's a bean pole and we'll more than likely see him in RD2 if we want him. I think they're looking at Brian Branch, as a top safety prospect that fits a need at nickel/slot in the short term as a rookie. 

Just not confident in Caldwell's ability to "scheme" as a DC. Naturally, it WAS year one for him so maybe he'll be more consistent and competent with his personnel in year two as a play caller. 

Head:
Adetomiwa Adebawore - 24th 
Julius Brents - 56th 

Heart:
Cody Mauch - 24th
Joe Tippmann - 56th 

Gut:
Brian Branch - 24th
Mazi Smith - 56th

Adebawore would be a reach, but a Baalke pick for sure. Same with Bresee. 
Mazi Smith, as the #2 DT behind Carter, should be long gone by #56. 
I'd love Branch as a FS, but, like Pauline, I don't think he's fast enough to play nickel.
Mauch would be a homerun at 56, but he's also probably long gone by then. 

My Head: Cam Smith (his "versatility" to play nickel this year and outside next year will make him the pick; Baalke cited "versatility" as the tiebreaker among evenly rated prospects)
My Heart: Kincaid (Safe pick that would put the offense over the top)
My Gut: Bresee (Baalke loves swinging for the fence; his ego demands to be known as smartest guy in the room, even though he, like his predecessor, is better suited as a scout than as final decisionmaker.)
(04-24-2023, 02:04 PM)TheDogCatcher Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-24-2023, 01:43 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]Value is trending towards CB and EDGE there at 24. I wouldn't hate the Kincaid selection. Just not sure how you figure out the numbers game with Zay, Christian, Calvin, Evan and Travis already within that line-up offensively. 

Forbes is a play making machine at CB but he's not big enough to take in RD1. He's a bean pole and we'll more than likely see him in RD2 if we want him. I think they're looking at Brian Branch, as a top safety prospect that fits a need at nickel/slot in the short term as a rookie. 

Just not confident in Caldwell's ability to "scheme" as a DC. Naturally, it WAS year one for him so maybe he'll be more consistent and competent with his personnel in year two as a play caller. 

Head:
Adetomiwa Adebawore - 24th 
Julius Brents - 56th 

Heart:
Cody Mauch - 24th
Joe Tippmann - 56th 

Gut:
Brian Branch - 24th
Mazi Smith - 56th

Adebawore would be a reach, but a Baalke pick for sure. Same with Bresee. 
Mazi Smith, as the #2 DT behind Carter, should be long gone by #56. 
I'd love Branch as a FS, but, like Pauline, I don't think he's fast enough to play nickel.
Mauch would be a homerun at 56, but he's also probably long gone by then. 

My Head: Cam Smith (his "versatility" to play nickel this year and outside next year will make him the pick; Baalke cited "versatility" as the tiebreaker among evenly rated prospects)
My Heart: Kincaid (Safe pick that would put the offense over the top)
My Gut: Bresee (Baalke loves swinging for the fence; his ego demands to be known as smartest guy in the room, even though he, like his predecessor, is better suited as a scout than as final decisionmaker.)

You have the right of it. I think that's how it'll pan out realistically. Not a fan of Bresee, at all. I hope I am wrong about him. It just feels like he'll slip there and Baalke will look at the potential upside instead of going after what's right in front of him that's been consistently there prospect wise on the production side. I think that's why my head is saying Adebawore and Brents at 24 and 56. They have freaky size/speed combinations. I think they'll be relatively safe players in the NFL. They won't splash consistently but they also won't negatively impact your team consistently or blow their assignments/gaps. 

I think Mazi Smith could be there at 56. My logic is that because the draft is so top heavy defensively? There's a good chance the offensively deprived teams in RD2 will start looking to backfill and thus trigger a run at WR, TE, OG/OT, etc. There's always a player or two that slips. Mazi Smith is an interesting prospect because of his size/speed but he's more of a block eater/space creator and less of an actual impact player/stat producer. I think Kancey is quietly going to drum up more interest. 

Mazi seems more like a pure 1tech in the NFL, whereas, guys like Kancey, Adebawore, etc. Those guys can play more than likely 3tech and 5tech here and there on the right team.
(04-24-2023, 01:56 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-24-2023, 01:33 PM)jaglou53 Wrote: [ -> ]I also heard Pauline this morning. While not infallible, he is one of the better draft analysts out there. You did a great job summarizing his comments. My post interview thoughts are:

1. Van Ness is the most likely pick for the Jaguars since Wright, N. Smith, Banks and Porter are likely gone. I'd be fine with that, although it will take him time to develop.

2. There is still a possibility that Porter falls to Jacksonville if Banks has moved ahead of him. Not likely, but it wouldn't shock me. Would be a great pick.

3. Branch may not be a home-run pick, but he is a great "safety" valve in case the top 3 are gone. He should definitely be available at 24.

4. Pauline is still pretty high on Bryan Bresee. I hope they pass on him, but Pauline's comments would give me hope if he is the pick.

5. I didn't hear him talk about Myles Murphy, but he'd also have to be a consideration at 24. He is "safer" than Van Ness. Probably a higher floor
   but lower ceiling than Van Ness. 

6. If they do go pass rush in round 1, round 2 will be very interesting. Do they take the top corner available or possibly reach for an offensive
    tackle due to lack of quality depth at that position? My hope is that either Cody Mauch or Mathew Bergeron are available and that they would
    be the pick. I have confidence a good nickel will be available in round 3 such as Riley Moss or Garrett Williams. 

7. That's about it for my thoughts on the first 2 days of the draft. I'd be pleased with Murphy/Van Ness in round 1, Mauch/Bergeron in round 2 and
    Williams/Moss in round 3. If a tight end like Washington is there at 56, that would also have to be a possibility.

He also mentioned Van Ness is all over the place within the mock community. He may or may not be there at 24. I wouldn't hate the pick. If Porter Jr. is there though I am running my card out to Goodell before the clock is down to 14:00 minutes. He's a steal at that point in my opinion. 

I am just not a fan of Branch. Really boils down to my earlier comments. Can Caldwell properly scheme him into a successful nickel/slot CB and what is the long term plan with him? Because he seems like a waste there and scary in coverage with 4.5 speed in the nickel/slot role primarily. I also agree with value being there much later to fill this need. Riley Moss, Mekhi Blackmon and Garrett Williams would be more ideal. 

I am mortified of Bresee. That would be my nightmare selection to hear this Thursday. The injuries, the mental state, etc. Just not a fan. If he fell to 56? I would consider him. Murphy would also be a fine selection for me. I wouldn't love it. But, I wouldn't hate it. He has a decent skill set as a pass rusher. Would pay off earlier than Van Ness as you pointed out. 

I have to tell you though. I don't think this front office is prioritizing the offensive line early, at all. I would be surprised if they took an offensive player in RD1 and RD2. RD3 would also be surprising at this point. If they do take a tackle or guard I would have to tip my hat to Baalke because he's had me fooled for sure this offseason. 

My heart is telling me to take Cody Mauch 24th overall. Because of his versatility, his feet, his ability to fit more than one need competently on a team that SHOULD be thinking about protecting it's QB more than it is at getting after the opposing QB at the moment. My heart is also telling me to take Joe Tippmann with the 56th overall pick because he's another solid C/OG option and he gives us a very, very good player there to backfill in a pinch if Fortner falters in year two or adds more strength and the eyes of a Center right next to Fortner at LG as a rookie. Again, protecting Lawrence is my priority. Especially with his contract up for extension sooner than people think.

It will be very interesting to see when they actually take an offensive lineman. It certainly is possible that they wait until round 4, but I hope that's not the case. Taylor may not have been great, but at least he was good at pass protection. I just don't feel confident with what they have- especially if one of the starters goes down. I also like Cody Mauch a lot, but would wait until sometime in round 2 and possibly trade up for him or Bergeron. Both have great versatility and I believe there's a big gap between them and the next group of linemen who can play guard and tackle. Avilla and Tippman should be very good interior linemen, but neither can be plugged in for Robinson or Little in case of injury.
As we're musing ... I haven't seen this mentioned yet but it opens up a new avenue of discussion...

But i do find myself interested to see what they might do if there are a number of our preferred options off the board ... And Bijan Robinson still on it ...

Position of need ... Not even close!
Likely to happen ... Possibly not!
Would i take him ... Not in an ideal world!

But it might become an interesting question if the draft fell badly and he ended up being a long way clear on the top of Baalkes draft board, it would certainly be interesting to know at what point they'd be willing to pull that trigger! Ettienne and Robinson would certainly give an enterprising offensive mind plenty of chances to play some funky formations out of the backfield!!
(04-24-2023, 04:17 PM)cat bells Wrote: [ -> ]As we're musing ... I haven't seen this mentioned yet but it opens up a new avenue of discussion...

But i do find myself interested to see what they might do if there are a number of our preferred options off the board ... And Bijan Robinson still on it ...

Position of need ... Not even close!
Likely to happen ... Possibly not!
Would i take him ... Not in an ideal world!

But it might become an interesting question if the draft fell badly and he ended up being a long way clear on the top of Baalkes draft board, it would certainly be interesting to know at what point they'd be willing to pull that trigger! Ettienne and Robinson would certainly give an enterprising offensive mind plenty of chances to play some funky formations out of the backfield!!
You're going to unleash the Kraken's around here with this idea.

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Keion White needs to be mentioned more. He has the measureables Baalke tends to covet. Can move along the line. Fits 4-3 or 3-4.

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Do you have any player or players you don't want the team to draft under any circumstances? Why?
Regardless of who we draft for pass rush, I’d still like to bring in a veteran like Clowney, or Clark, or even Ngokue. And will Smoot be back?
(04-24-2023, 06:44 PM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ]Do you have any player or players you don't want the team to draft under any circumstances? Why?
Bresee. Durability concerns. Didnt see enough out of him at Clemson. Just really, really not into that selection if it happens at 24.

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(04-24-2023, 07:14 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-24-2023, 06:44 PM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ]Do you have any player or players you don't want the team to draft under any circumstances?  Why?
Bresee. Durability concerns. Didnt see enough out of him at Clemson. Just really, really not into that selection if it happens at 24.

That's mine as well.  Very nice story on ESPN about he and the Clemson family embracing his the Bresess family while his sister was battling cancer (to which she sadly died), but his production and potential don't equate to a 1st round selection.  Not sure he's going to hold up given the injuries noted below as well.

In his college career, he’s missed a ton of games after suffering a torn ACL, surgery on his shoulder, a kidney infection, and the death of his sister.

https://sicscore.com/cfb/updates/bryan-b...raft-stock
(04-24-2023, 07:02 PM)GaJag Wrote: [ -> ]Regardless of who we draft for pass rush, I’d still like to bring in a veteran like Clowney, or Clark, or even Ngokue. And will Smoot be back?
We are in complete agreement here.  That's probably among the most consistent sentiment's I've had all offseason.

That said, I think there is a slim chance we bring Ngakoue back.
You guys don't want Branch at Nickel because you don't think he's fast enough, but you want him at FS where side to side speed is more important? Lol, makes zero sense boys.
(04-24-2023, 08:05 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]You guys don't want Branch at Nickel because you don't think he's fast enough, but you want him at FS where side to side speed is more important? Lol, makes zero sense boys.

I want him as our future SS*.  He can play some nickel this year and some at Safety.  He has good speed for a SS, is a great tackler, and is very good around the line of scrimmage.  He's a good Blitzer as well

(04-24-2023, 06:44 PM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ]Do you have any player or players you don't want the team to draft under any circumstances?  Why?

Ringo for me.  That's who Walter Football has us taking.
(04-24-2023, 07:50 PM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-24-2023, 07:02 PM)GaJag Wrote: [ -> ]Regardless of who we draft for pass rush, I’d still like to bring in a veteran like Clowney, or Clark, or even Ngokue. And will Smoot be back?
We are in complete agreement here.  That's probably among the most consistent sentiment's I've had all offseason.

That said, I think there is a slim chance we bring Ngakoue back.

Hopefully he and Tony have buried the hatchet.
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