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(08-09-2023, 09:57 PM)NH3 Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-08-2023, 08:41 AM)Ronster Wrote: [ -> ]I grew up being taught that hating people because of skin color was wrong. I was taught too be color blind. It started with my Republican parents who instilled these values into me. So any biases I may hold were all learned through life experiences. These experiences are teaching me to be angry and even hate… 

How did it come to this? And what’s the end game? Subjecting whites to the same things blacks have experienced. I wonder how that will play out? Eventually it will just come full circle and after creating new victim class , society will then have to deal with the same thing over and over again. 

There is so much to say on this subject, so I think it’s good we start the discussion and see what we come up with…

Once again I try to stay away from such topics BUT here's My Simple Perspective. There's no such race as Whites or Blacks so would ANYBody that's present and or reading my comments be willing to change places w/an so called Black Person? Would you be willing to be subjected to the Black History? This includes yesteryear's history, yesterday's history and today's history. Within several group sessions I have YET to have an Caucasion person admit that they would want to be treated like an Black or African American person. NOT ONE PERSON.

Any Takers?

So the question is, "Is it OK to discriminate against white people"? Why?

Because White People discriminated against Black People. DUH! What is said about oneself that does to others that doesn't want the same to be done to them? I too was raised to Not be Prejudice and I have maintained such an thought/mindset. My GG Parents, My Grand Parents and My Parents would roll over in their graves to such an thought. I Refuse. The reality is that it's still being taught to this day. 

I was in an shopping center a few years ago, and I overheard a little caucasion boy about 4-5 years old as he was pointing to me say "Look daddy, there's an [BLEEP]". 

Why is it O.K. to Discriminate against an different race BUT you don't want your race Discriminated upon? Its sad to say that during My Stay above ground I won't see it change or will I. I seriously doubt it.

Time Will Tell.

NH3...

I'm not sure what you're saying.  But I will try to respond.  "Why is it O.K. to Discriminate against an different race..."  It is NOT okay to discriminate against a different race.  

"Is it OK to discriminate against white people? Why? Because White People discriminated against Black People. DUH!"

It is not okay to discriminate against anyone because of their race.  If you discriminate against a white person because another white person discriminated against a black person, then you are disciminating against that white person because they are white.  That is not ok.  That is the definition of racial discrimination.  You can't cure racial discrimination with more racial discrimination.  That type of action produces racial resentment among white people who are not guilty of anything except being white.  It drives the races apart and produces poisonous conflict between people and has the opposite effect of what we are trying to accomplish as a society.

Who's that guy?

(08-10-2023, 08:19 AM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]Who's that guy?

Some [BLEEP] racist on TikTok. I would love to give this racist a reason to hate “yts”

(08-10-2023, 08:19 AM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]Who's that guy?

He's a unicorn.  Or maybe a manticore.  He's clearly a racist but since only whites can be racist and he's not white, he is obviously just a fictional creature who doesn't exist.

I just was asking because who cares? Sure, he could be a canary in the coal mine. He could also be just one of the 350,000,000 people in this country who is stupid. I hate what deconstructionism is doing to this country, but that guy is small potatoes. It's sad he feels that way, but we can't build a coalition by othering. I have a lot of black friends, and while they have some misconceptions about whites, I've only ever met a few radicals. You can't change them. They also aren't the majority. We shouldn't fear them. We need to be fixating our ire on the people that cause this mess. The elites do this. He's just a biproduct.

(08-10-2023, 09:54 PM)Ronster Wrote: [ -> ]

Please answer this:

What percentage of Black Americans do you believe have the opinion of the Black kid in the cartoon you posted?

(08-10-2023, 10:48 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]Please answer this:

What percentage of Black Americans do you believe have the opinion of the Black kid in the cartoon you posted?

Before he answers (if he does), is this something you know the answer to or are we shooting for an actual discussion?

(08-11-2023, 09:23 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]

(08-10-2023, 10:48 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]Please answer this:

What percentage of Black Americans do you believe have the opinion of the Black kid in the cartoon you posted?

Before he answers (if he does), is this something you know the answer to or are we shooting for an actual discussion?

I'm genuinely curious what the perception is about the attitude from black to white. 

I'm sure I'd have a different estimated number in mind, but curious how far off the perceptions are.

No, I don't know.

(08-11-2023, 09:32 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]

(08-11-2023, 09:23 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Before he answers (if he does), is this something you know the answer to or are we shooting for an actual discussion?

I'm genuinely curious what the perception is about the attitude from black to white. 

I'm sure I'd have a different estimated number in mind, but curious how far off the perceptions are.

No, I don't know.

Isn't it true, though, that "black pride" and "white pride" are treated quite differently by the media and society at large?  The cartoon does make a valid point, doesn't it?

The cartoon says they like it, not that they're proud of it.
Liking the way you were born is healthy.
But being proud of a circumstance of your birth, when you obviously had no control over it, is problematic regardless of what it is. Black, white, boy, girl, American, Mexican, no difference. Now if we are ever at war I would hope we would all be proud to be Americans. And I understand black pride as a necessary defense mechanism against a world that prefers whiteness on many levels. But the need or excuse for both types of pride should be temporary. In general pride should only be applied to things you've done, not things you were born into.

(08-11-2023, 09:32 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]

(08-11-2023, 09:23 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Before he answers (if he does), is this something you know the answer to or are we shooting for an actual discussion?

I'm genuinely curious what the perception is about the attitude from black to white. 

I'm sure I'd have a different estimated number in mind, but curious how far off the perceptions are.

No, I don't know.

Most blacks I know wouldn't answer "That's racist." They would answer with "That's obvious." So, my answer would be a very small minority. Now, if you took out the black guy and put in an educated, white liberal, that percentage goes WAY up.

(08-11-2023, 12:03 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]https://youtube.com/shorts/7CYuzd10vtA?feature=share

Very valid point.

Last one, I swear!

https://youtube.com/shorts/rAhHkzyfJ6A?feature=share

You gotta stop posting those. Every time, I end up wasting 30 minutes of my day scrolling through videos. Have some compassion, man!

(08-11-2023, 12:53 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]You gotta stop posting those. Every time, I end up wasting 30 minutes of my day scrolling through videos. Have some compassion, man!

I know. They’re a huge time waster.

(08-11-2023, 11:14 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]

(08-11-2023, 09:32 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]I'm genuinely curious what the perception is about the attitude from black to white. 

I'm sure I'd have a different estimated number in mind, but curious how far off the perceptions are.

No, I don't know.

Isn't it true, though, that "black pride" and "white pride" are treated quite differently by the media and society at large?  The cartoon does make a valid point, doesn't it?

Sure 

If slavery and 160-some-odd years of civil rights oppression never happened, it would make a point. 
But that [BLEEP] happened and it's not yet distant in our rear view mirror. 

Maybe when we are far enough removed from the recent history 'black pride" and "white pride" won't have such disparate meanings. But for now - one is a pride stemming from a legacy of oppression. One is a pride inexorably linked to the legacy of the oppressors.