Quote:I'll take the under.
You're grossly underestimating the thickness.
FBT should really get a restraining order on you. Its creepy how much you mimic and idolize him.
I believe they mean what they say. But I also saw Russell Wilson start in one of the most unlikely situations I've ever seen. Will Bortles most likely start week 1? No, but if Wilson can do it then it is certainly in the realm of possibility.
Quote:I believe they mean what they say. But I also saw Russell Wilson start in one of the most unlikely situations I've ever seen. Will Bortles most likely start week 1? No, but if Wilson can do it then it is certainly in the realm of possibility.
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Hopefully the run game and the defense improves. In this case, Henne's performance is less relevant.
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I don't think anyone is saying it can't happen, but that it's unlikely at this point.
Quote:I believe they mean what they say. But I also saw Russell Wilson start in one of the most unlikely situations I've ever seen. Will Bortles most likely start week 1? No, but if Wilson can do it then it is certainly in the realm of possibility.
This is true but Wilson was a five year starter and more polished than Bortles. His flaw was his height. But it is possible.
Quote:The only opinion that matters is the one being formulated by the people who actually have a say in the decision making process. They've been pretty clear what their view of Henne is, and if they didn't feel comfortable with what he brings to the table for the short term, I'm fairly certain they wouldn't have made it a priority to re-sign him. Their jobs depend on getting decisions like this right. Apparently, the QBs you liked in free agency didn't inspire much excitement from the Jaguars front office. I'll trust their judgment on that over a message board GM. Sorry.
We'll see what he's capable of this year. He's got 16 games to show what he can do. After that, he's back to the backup role.
I guess it's a good thing your heart isn't making the decisions for this team.
I disagree with the notion that the only opinions that matter are those of the front office. If that were true, what is the point of a message board. Assigning the label of "message board GM" to me for expressing an opinion about Henne's abilities as a QB is just silly. The entire tone of that statement is dismissive and implies your opinion is better than mine after you clearly make the argument neither of ours matter. Opinions of fans like you and I do matter. When fans feel the team is doing things wrong and their devotion and money are being wasted on empty hopes you get blackouts and all the negativity we experienced 5 years ago. When the fans feel the team is doing things right you get a record turnout at a rookie minicamp and an uptick in ticket sales.
Did you trust your own opinion or possibly that of a "message board GM" when Gene Smith was calling the shots or did you simply tell yourself, this GM knows better than I? I didn't like the fact we re-signed Henne. I think he has peaked and will never reach the levels others feel he is capable of because he has a better supporting cast and another year in this system. Sue me. In truth, they likely came to the quick conclusion there wasn't a much better option available in free agency and went with the devil they knew. They said a whole bunch of nice things about him, but what are they going to say? He was the best option until we get someone better? It was obvious before they drafted Bortles.
I presented an argument that wasn't toeing the front office line and provided supportive evidence based on Henne's history and I get accused of just being negative. Which is quite the opposite of the bulk of what I post here. He was abysmal last season. Watching him run this offense week after week was like being in an abusive relationship. I get that the team has a plan for easing Blake into the starting role and I never challenged that logic. Getting all high and mighty because I think the guy slated to start week 1 for this team is a liability who has never strung together three decent games is not necessary.
Quote:I disagree with the notion that the only opinions that matter are those of the front office. If that were true, what is the point of a message board. Assigning the label of "message board GM" to me for expressing an opinion about Henne's abilities as a QB is just silly. The entire tone of that statement is dismissive and implies your opinion is better than mine after you clearly make the argument neither of ours matter. Opinions of fans like you and I do matter. When fans feel the team is doing things wrong and their devotion and money are being wasted on empty hopes you get blackouts and all the negativity we experienced 5 years ago. When the fans feel the team is doing things right you get a record turnout at a rookie minicamp and an uptick in ticket sales.
Did you trust your own opinion or possibly that of a "message board GM" when Gene Smith was calling the shots or did you simply tell yourself, this GM knows better than I? I didn't like the fact we re-signed Henne. I think he has peaked and will never reach the levels others feel he is capable of because he has a better supporting cast and another year in this system. Sue me. In truth, they likely came to the quick conclusion there wasn't a much better option available in free agency and went with the devil they knew. They said a whole bunch of nice things about him, but what are they going to say? He was the best option until we get someone better? It was obvious before they drafted Bortles.
I presented an argument that wasn't toeing the front office line and provided supportive evidence based on Henne's history and I get accused of just being negative. Which is quite the opposite of the bulk of what I post here. He was abysmal last season. Watching him run this offense week after week was like being in an abusive relationship. I get that the team has a plan for easing Blake into the starting role and I never challenged that logic. Getting all high and mighty because I think the guy slated to start week 1 for this team is a liability who has never strung together three decent games is not necessary.
that's the thing though... This is just a message board and a very small sample size of the fans.. Alot of which I'm guessing don't go to the games or live in jax. Yes collectively as an entire fan base our opinions matter but this message board? Not so much. The team would be fine without it.
Quote:Thats the "new" term for "rocket science"....
well, not all that new....but they been using it now for a bit.
I get the rocket science reference, took some rocket science classes that stuff makes your head spin, but where the hell does rocket surgery come from? Did he mean rocket science or brain surgery and just mix them up? How the hell can you have surgery on a rocket!?
Amazing that some are still trying to argue this. The Coach and GM are steadfast in their approach with the QB situation. They simply will not rush Blake into duty before he is absolutely ready.
We get it, some fans don't like it. Oh well. That won't change a thing. That's not bothersome at all. What is somewhat bothersome is the group that wants Henne to fail so badly just so they can say, "I told you so."
If Henne does well, which is not an impossibility, I guess then they will be silenced. What's sad is that until if and when that time comes, we will hear more of the same, when we have already been told what the plan is, and been told as definitively as can be done.
All that said, Henne bashers, don't let me stop you. Hate away.....
Quote:Thats the "new" term for "rocket science"....
well, not all that new....but they been using it now for a bit.
Quote:I get the rocket science reference, took some rocket science classes that stuff makes your head spin, but where the hell does rocket surgery come from? Did he mean rocket science or brain surgery and just mix them up? How the hell can you have surgery on a rocket!?
It's stupidity. Just something to "slang out" the English language. The dumbing down of America continues.......
Quote:Amazing that some are still trying to argue this. The Coach and GM are steadfast in their approach with the QB situation. They simply will not rush Blake into duty before he is absolutely ready.
We get it, some fans don't like it. Oh well. That won't change a thing. That's not bothersome at all. What is somewhat bothersome is the group that wants Henne to fail so badly just so they can say, "I told you so."
If Henne does well, which is not an impossibility, I guess then they will be silenced. What's sad is that until if and when that time comes, we will hear more of the same, when we have already been told what the plan is, and been told as definitively as can be done.
All that said, Henne bashers, don't let me stop you. Hate away.....
Right, but they are saying that based on what they know now, today just as the same thing was said for Russell Wilson. Most likely he won't be starting week 1, but it can happen.
Quote:It's stupidity. Just something to "slang out" the English language. The dumbing down of America continues.......
That is a great example of the never overused dumbing down of America line. Perfect example...
Quote:We must have different definitions of "really good numbers" or what it would mean for him to have the best year of his career. When I read that thread, the only people posting predictions are setting numbers that would make Henne probably a middle tier QB or even in the lower third. Yeah, they're really talking about "really good numbers."
Reading comprehension is a lost art.
You seem to be interpreting that to mean he'll have Brady/Manning-like stats, but I haven't seen a single poster who has posted their predictions who was being unreasonable in their very mediocre expectations for Henne this year. When they say he may have the best year of his career, is that something that's impossible to fathom considering his stats have been pretty average?
I think some people are just determined to trash Henne any chance they can, and they're trying to twist reality into something that portrays people with modest expectations as being off the charts optimistic about what he can accomplish. Most are basically taking his stats from last year in 13 games, using the average of those games and extrapolating that out over an additional 3 starts. Yeah, that's just crazy to think he might actually have positive yardage in a game.
Some of you are hellbent on trying to portray Henne as some historically bad QB, and he's not. He's average on his best day, and if he can reach that level for this season, the expectations I've seen from those willing to actually post numbers are more than attainable. It's as if some of you just need something to rip this team, or certain players over.
Chill out a little. I think you're putting a lot of words in my mouth.
When has he ever achieved being a middle-tier QB? I don't see how people expect him to have the best season of his career with a raw group of receivers, a bunch of unproven RBs, and a new unproven O-line. Dont get me wrong I'm excited for our future and I think Gus planning to roll with Henne week 1 is absolutely the right call but Henne is not even an average QB. You would be hard pressed to say he can start on any other team. Hes never achieved anything even with talent around him.
Quote:That is a great example of the never overused dumbing down of America line. Perfect example...
Whatever you say. I won't try to teach intellect. If you don't understand already, it's on you.
Lol I thought it was a mistake rocket surgery now I realize I'm just one of those old guys that's not up on the slang. Damn when did that happen?
Quote:Lol I thought it was a mistake rocket surgery now I realize I'm just one of those old guys that's not up on the slang. Damn when did that happen?
Who knows. It makes no sense though and I stand by my prior comment which a preceding poster apparently took exception with.
It's called linguistics, and it's the thing that separates people from animals. Language is the ability to effectively, accurately, and concisely relay thought. Without that, people are no better off intellectually than a common animal. The preceding poster may be comfortable with that level of challenge in his life, but for him to argue that it is not indeed dumbing down people is pure folly. He would be better served to go grab a banana and hang out with some primates.
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