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Quote:How bout the old Steelers coach. 

It's probably a bad idea to hire a guy who's been out of the league as long as Cowher has been.

Quote:local news said jaguars to trade 2nd round pick for sean peyton will be the head coach and gm, peyton to make a trade for Drew Brees

I wouldn't hate that at all.

Quote:inb4 Caldwell hires a perennially average journeyman coach similar to Mike Mularkey or Norv Turner.

I'd take Norv Turner, as a 2nd tier option.  He'd need to bring in a solid DC.  But we've done much worse than Turner before.

Quote:It's probably a bad idea to hire a guy who's been out of the league as long as Cowher has been.

Cowher would be cool, and I think he could put together a modernized staff. The hire at HC should be about culture change, and I think Cowher would bring that. I don't think he's leaving his cozy CBS job, so I'm not worried about it.

Quote:Who cares man?


It doesn't matter at all if he is a good person. He historically failed at his job and should have been fired a long time ago.

My point exactly.

Jaguar fans after 4 years of Bradley and finally receiving the news of his ouster:

 

Quote:Jaguar fans after 4 years of Bradley and finally receiving the news of his ouster:

FYI Caldwell and Bortles are still here.


This ain't over by a long shot.

Quote:FYI Caldwell and Bortles are still here.


This ain't over by a long shot.

Caldwell has made mistakes but so has every gm. Go take a look at Ozzie Newsomes drafts sonce 2013...


Caldwell should be kept. I would have sort of liked cleaning house completely but hes hit it big with some picks and the talent is here. Coaching is whst this team needs.


Blake had a bad rookie year then went and got help from Tom House and threw for 35 tds and 18 int last year. Have him soend all offseason out there again and have a good offensive staff around him and he could get back to 2015 form.

Quote:Caldwell has made mistakes but so has every gm. Go take a look at Ozzie Newsomes drafts sonce 2013...


Caldwell should be kept. I would have sort of liked cleaning house completely but hes hit it big with some picks and the talent is here. Coaching is whst this team needs.


Blake had a bad rookie year then went and got help from Tom House and threw for 35 tds and 18 int last year. Have him soend all offseason out there again and have a good offensive staff around him and he could get back to 2015 form.

 

This would fix his mechanics but not his decision making and ability to read the defense, both of which lacked this season as well. This was supposed to be his point of emphasis in the off-season (and the reason he didn't spend as much time in Cali to work on his mechanics). Not only did his mechanics regress, but I don't believe he improved in the mental aspects of the game either.

Quote:This would fix his mechanics but not his decision making and ability to read the defense, both of which lacked this season as well. This was supposed to be his point of emphasis in the off-season (and the reason he didn't spend as much time in Cali to work on his mechanics). Not only did his mechanics regress, but I don't believe he improved in the mental aspects of the game either.

Like Ive said before, Blake is and always will be a gunslinger. He loves taking chances and giving his guys an opportunity to make a play. Doesnt mean he cant be a QB to take us far with all the weapoms and defense we surrounded him with. Its not easy to find someone that can even do that. He showed he could last year.


His mechanics are making things look worse decision making wise. Like that pick 6 a couple weeks back where the CB jumped the route on the sideline pass? That wouldnt have happened if his throwing motion and footwork werent so sloppy causing the corner to be able to get over there due to how long it takes Blake to get it there.

Quote:FYI Caldwell and Bortles are still here.


This ain't over by a long shot.

 

Agree.  Especially if he does nothing with the QB position to protect his pick (like Shack with Byron.)

 

Then, it's another year or two - a new QB and GM, who may bring in yet another coach.

 

Which puts us two years from now, exactly where we are today.

Quote:Agree. Especially if he does nothing with the QB position to protect his pick (like Shack with Byron.)


Then, it's another year or two - a new QB and GM, who may bring in yet another coach.


Which puts us two years from now, exactly where we are today.

With this defense that Dave built and thr weapons at WR for a young QB, even if we grt a rookie QB we should be ahead in development/record. Winston lead the Bucs to a decent record his rookie year with a bad defense. Mariota in year two is leading TEN to the playoffs. Wentz with a solid D is likely getting 6 or so wind this year as a rookie.


I want to win but id sure as hell take those signs of being right on the cusp of competing in 2 years if Bortles flames out.

Caldwell is on the hot seat since hes been here 4 years and just fired his first hire. Sure, Id imagine he wants to make sure what he has in Bortles but I really dont think hes going to force bim on whoever thr new HC is next year and beyond if he obviously shows he isnt the guy after offseason work.

Quote:Like Ive said before, Blake is and always will be a gunslinger. He loves taking chances and giving his guys an opportunity to make a play. Doesnt mean he cant be a QB to take us far with all the weapoms and defense we surrounded him with. Its not easy to find someone that can even do that. He showed he could last year.


His mechanics are making things look worse decision making wise. Like that pick 6 a couple weeks back where the CB jumped the route on the sideline pass? That wouldnt have happened if his throwing motion and footwork werent so sloppy causing the corner to be able to get over there due to how long it takes Blake to get it there.

 

Being a gunslinger does not give you a free reign to chuck balls downfield. It also doesn't excuse you for missing open receivers. Furthermore, a gunslinger (a successful one) often gets away with it because he has an elite physical talent.

 

A gunslinger who throws ducks is the worst combination you'd want. Blake will never have the elite arm that Favre or Vick had in their primes. He does have a strong enough arm when his mechanics are right. He has one year left on his contract and one year left to prove that he can fix his mechanics and be capable of running an offense instead of just one that relies on the big plays. There's a reason why the mental aspect was a big emphasis for his development heading into this season, one that even he acknowledged he needed to improve upon.

Quote:Blake had a bad rookie year then went and got help from Tom House and threw for 35 tds and 18 int last year. Have him soend all offseason out there again and have a good offensive staff around him and he could get back to 2015 form.

 

Much is made of Blake's offseason prior to 2015 vs 2016.  Several posters tend to think his spending 4 weeks as opposed to 2 weeks working with House was the difference maker in 2015.  Maybe that's correct -- but I have my doubts. 

 

I think the crazy roller coaster of coaches having input on his throwing motion since he became a Jaguar has left him utterly confused. 

Between Fisch, Scelfo, Olson, Hackett and House all having something to say -- I believe he's suffered from too many cooks in the kitchen. 

 

Will more time with House help?  I have no idea. I'm less inclined to see a retired baseball player as the guy to help him than some.

 Whatever they do - I really hope that the new QB coach (or Hackett if he gets the job) can really get on the same page as House and Bortles and integrate House's efforts with some real NFL footwork development.  Bortles' reluctance to step into throws in 2016 has been dumbfounding to witness.  

Gus Bradley is clearly a likable and good man, it didn't work out here for him, I wish him success in the future.

Quote:Caldwell has made mistakes but so has every gm. Go take a look at Ozzie Newsomes drafts sonce 2013...


Caldwell should be kept. I would have sort of liked cleaning house completely but hes hit it big with some picks and the talent is here. Coaching is whst this team needs.


Blake had a bad rookie year then went and got help from Tom House and threw for 35 tds and 18 int last year. Have him soend all offseason out there again and have a good offensive staff around him and he could get back to 2015 form.

 

35/18 is a meaningless statistic.  absolutely meaningless.  was blake better last year? yes.  he was about a 6-7 win QB.  It's not nearly enough.  Even 2015 blake isn't nearly good enough to be the guy.  Look at what he does in the 1st half of games.

Quote:Much is made of Blake's offseason prior to 2015 vs 2016.  Several posters tend to think his spending 4 weeks as opposed to 2 weeks working with House was the difference maker in 2015.  Maybe that's correct -- but I have my doubts. 

 

I think the crazy roller coaster of coaches having input on his throwing motion since he became a Jaguar has left him utterly confused. 

Between Fisch, Scelfo, Olson, Hackett and House all having something to say -- I believe he's suffered from too many cooks in the kitchen. 

 

Will more time with House help?  I have no idea. I'm less inclined to see a retired baseball player as the guy to help him than some.

 Whatever they do - I really hope that the new QB coach (or Hackett if he gets the job) can really get on the same page as House and Bortles and integrate House's efforts with some real NFL footwork development.  Bortles' reluctance to step into throws in 2016 has been dumbfounding to witness.  

 

Or you can view it as having five different coaches trying to fix him with no success.

Quote:Much is made of Blake's offseason prior to 2015 vs 2016.  Several posters tend to think his spending 4 weeks as opposed to 2 weeks working with House was the difference maker in 2015.  Maybe that's correct -- but I have my doubts. 

 

I think the crazy roller coaster of coaches having input on his throwing motion since he became a Jaguar has left him utterly confused. 

Between Fisch, Scelfo, Olson, Hackett and House all having something to say -- I believe he's suffered from too many cooks in the kitchen. 

 

Will more time with House help?  I have no idea. I'm less inclined to see a retired baseball player as the guy to help him than some.

 Whatever they do - I really hope that the new QB coach (or Hackett if he gets the job) can really get on the same page as House and Bortles and integrate House's efforts with some real NFL footwork development.  Bortles' reluctance to step into throws in 2016 has been dumbfounding to witness.  

 

nobody will help him with his throwing motion.  He is who he is.  The sooner people realize that, the better.  He's not the guy.  He never was and he never will be, period.  I hope the new coach sees this as well and drafts/signs some competition.  Even decent competition like Brian Hoyer would more than likely beat out Bortles if the competition was fair.  Problem is, the offseason doesn't have nearly enough snaps to go around for a true competition to take place.  

Quote:Jaguar fans after 4 years of Bradley and finally receiving the news of his ouster:

 

 

 

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