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(11-25-2022, 09:34 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-25-2022, 08:28 PM)copycat Wrote: [ -> ]Are you really that self unaware?

I said my point was that Musk owning Twitter might end badly, post 279.
FSG said that wasn't my point, post 286.
I asked him to tell me what my point is, obviously sarcastically, post 289.
Sneakers said I admitted something, post 291.

What did I admit? I made a sarcastic joke.

Your attempted point was about the ethics of him trolling people, not about it "ending badly." You once again tried to make the discussion something it wasmt.

(11-26-2022, 10:34 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-25-2022, 09:34 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]I said my point was that Musk owning Twitter might end badly, post 279.
FSG said that wasn't my point, post 286.
I asked him to tell me what my point is, obviously sarcastically, post 289.
Sneakers said I admitted something, post 291.

What did I admit? I made a sarcastic joke.

Your attempted point was about the ethics of him trolling people, not about it "ending badly." You once again tried to make the discussion something it wasmt.

The ethics of him trolling his own users are questionable, BECAUSE him trolling his own users might end badly.

The problem with Elon and Twitter and why he's causing so much of an uproar, is because he's leveling the playing field and instilling common sense.

Mikey hasn't quite figured out the cause and effect of establishment ire.

All of that is fine. Moderation policies needed to be fixed.
But that can be done slowly, giving the human moderators time to catch up, and it doesn't require the actual owner of the site to put out hot takes and controversial posts. Leave those to the folks you're unbanning.

(11-27-2022, 09:53 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]All of that is fine.  Moderation policies needed to be fixed.
But that can be done slowly, giving the human moderators time to catch up, and it doesn't require the actual owner of the site to put out hot takes and controversial posts.  Leave those to the folks you're unbanning.

That’s a reasonable assessment. Musk should dial back his rhetoric. He’s Trumping himself.

(11-26-2022, 10:47 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-26-2022, 10:34 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Your attempted point was about the ethics of him trolling people, not about it "ending badly." You once again tried to make the discussion something it wasmt.

The ethics of him trolling his own users are questionable, BECAUSE him trolling his own users might end badly.

For the nth time, that's not ethics, it's business.  If you don't understand the difference between the two, why don't you look up their respective definitions?

(11-27-2022, 10:09 AM)Sneakers Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-26-2022, 10:47 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]The ethics of him trolling his own users are questionable, BECAUSE him trolling his own users might end badly.

For the nth time, that's not ethics, it's business.  If you don't understand the difference between the two, why don't you look up their respective definitions?

Are you trying to tell me that ethics has nothing to do with business? That ethics has nothing to say about buying a large asset and making it less valuable? That ethics has nothing to say about starting arguments online?

(11-27-2022, 01:24 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-27-2022, 10:09 AM)Sneakers Wrote: [ -> ]For the nth time, that's not ethics, it's business.  If you don't understand the difference between the two, why don't you look up their respective definitions?

Are you trying to tell me that ethics has nothing to do with business? That ethics has nothing to say about buying a large asset and making it less valuable? That ethics has nothing to say about starting arguments online?

You must live in an ivory tower.  Ethics and morals are typically not of great concern in the corporate business world.  Ditto politics and professional sports.  I'm not saying that's a good thing, but it's the reality of the time we're living in.  

Ethics are irrelevant to diminishing value, UNLESS the buyer (Musk) intentionally devalued the asset (Twitter), in which case, he could potentially have both civil and criminal exposure.  Are you suggesting that was his intent?  If so, he failed.  Twitter stock is worth more today than the day he bought the company.  Any other loss in stock value through management decisions (should such occur) is still not a matter of ethics, regardless of how poor those decisions might be.

What in the world does ethics have to do with starting arguments online?  If I said, "It gets dark at night.", you would argue about it.  Does that bring your ethics into question?

If I ever argued against it getting dark at night, my ethics should be the least of your concerns.
Yes, it gets dark at night.
You seem obsessed with me though. Any other poster said some of the things I say, you'd leave it alone. Me, you feel a need to not just nitpick but lecture me. What has gone so great in your life that you feel qualified to teach someone you know nothing about?
You got a college degree? What was your GPA? How long ago was that? Right, I don't want you to answer either.

Bwwaaaahahahahaaaaaa

Mikey, stop making the thread about yourself again.

Sneakers, ethics is a concern so long as the customer cares about it.

(11-28-2022, 09:02 AM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]Mikey, stop making the thread about yourself again.

Sneakers, ethics is a concern so long as the customer, or the workers, or the payment platform, or the US Treasury Department cares about it.

FTFY

Define payment platform.

As to the US Treasury Department, there is a difference between ethical and legal. They have no say in what is ethical. The people decide that.

(11-28-2022, 11:00 AM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]Define payment platform.

As to the US Treasury Department, there is a difference between ethical and legal. They have no say in what is ethical. The people decide that.

For example, VISA recently locked out some adult websites because they were allowing newly uploaded videos to be viewed by the public without vetting those videos for child abuse content.

For example, the Treasury Department just added more Iranian people and companies to its blacklist over how police are responding to protestors there.  A domestic company doesn't have to worry about the Treasury Department making judgements beyond what the law requires, but, foreign companies do.

Stuff fixin to hit the fan lolololol

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1597...xjUwQ&s=19

I hate to admit I'm actually interested in seeing what gets exposed and how much MSM will actually say about it.

(11-28-2022, 05:17 PM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]Stuff fixin to hit the fan lolololol

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1597...xjUwQ&s=19

This could be as good as Wikileaks in 2016.

I'm not expecting much in terms of surprises from Musk's revelations. I don't think he's going to reveal how the algorithm and shadowbanning and throttling have worked. Because every indication is Musk still wants to use those tools behind the curtain.
Something interesting he might be able to reveal is the bias. There probably were(and still are) some more right wing or centrist moderators over there who wanted to punish some of the more extreme or inciteful left wing accounts, that were never punished. Those internal arguments might be very interesting, if there is record of them.