(08-31-2023, 12:32 PM)Hard_Eight Wrote: [ -> ]Damn Hodges to IR...at least he'll get paid for the year.
On 1010 this morning the orthopedic surgeon they have as a weekly guest says the fact Hodges hasn't had surgery at this point is a good sign because it indicates the injury was most likely a dislocated kneecap with a possibility of ligament tears. He says a month on IR should be enough time to mostly recover, but there's still the potential for surgery if the ligaments are torn badly.
So, there's hope we see Hodges off IR in 4 weeks.
Heard on 1010xl Baalke commenting that both players must sit for at least 4 weeks. He was very non-committal on Hamilton as to when he'd be able to return.
(08-31-2023, 03:47 PM)Jaguar Warrior Wrote: [ -> ]Hamilton on IR? That's crazy, right after he signed a deal. He was gonna be a major player on the dline. Huge loss.
Have they said he's done for the year somewhere? As it stands, going on IR now means he could conceivably come back week 5. It doesn't automatically mean out for the year unless they've diagnosed his injury as such.
(08-31-2023, 04:35 PM)Jaguarmeister Wrote: [ -> ] (08-31-2023, 03:47 PM)Jaguar Warrior Wrote: [ -> ]Hamilton on IR? That's crazy, right after he signed a deal. He was gonna be a major player on the dline. Huge loss.
Have they said he's done for the year somewhere? As it stands, going on IR now means he could conceivably come back week 5. It doesn't automatically mean out for the year unless they've diagnosed his injury as such.
Since it is a non-football injury they don't have to say anything and they are staying close-lipped.
Hoping it's something he can recover this season. We need him.
(08-31-2023, 04:35 PM)Jaguarmeister Wrote: [ -> ] (08-31-2023, 03:47 PM)Jaguar Warrior Wrote: [ -> ]Hamilton on IR? That's crazy, right after he signed a deal. He was gonna be a major player on the dline. Huge loss.
Have they said he's done for the year somewhere? As it stands, going on IR now means he could conceivably come back week 5. It doesn't automatically mean out for the year unless they've diagnosed his injury as such.
Pretty sure it’s just 4 weeks he’s missing but they’ll need all the help they can get in week 2.
Wondering if Hamilton has some sort of serious illness, hoping it’s nothing life threatening.
(08-31-2023, 04:39 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ] (08-31-2023, 04:35 PM)Jaguarmeister Wrote: [ -> ]Have they said he's done for the year somewhere? As it stands, going on IR now means he could conceivably come back week 5. It doesn't automatically mean out for the year unless they've diagnosed his injury as such.
Pretty sure it’s just 4 weeks he’s missing but they’ll need all the help they can get in week 2.
Really need him for the run heavy teams like Houston and Atlanta to anchor down the middle against Pierce and Robinson
(09-01-2023, 10:10 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ] (08-31-2023, 04:39 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]Pretty sure it’s just 4 weeks he’s missing but they’ll need all the help they can get in week 2.
Really need him for the run heavy teams like Houston and Atlanta to anchor down the middle against Pierce and Robinson
They can put Fatukasi in the middle for that stuff. (if he's healthy!)
Hamilton is more effective as NT in pass sets.
That is where he excelled last year at moving the pocket and winning his one on ones.
He had the best pass pro win rate of all the Jags IDLs last year.
(09-01-2023, 10:48 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ] (09-01-2023, 10:10 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]Really need him for the run heavy teams like Houston and Atlanta to anchor down the middle against Pierce and Robinson
They can put Fatukasi in the middle for that stuff. (if he's healthy!)
Hamilton is more effective as NT in pass sets.
That is where he excelled last year at moving the pocket and winning his one on ones.
He had the best pass pro win rate of all the Jags IDLs last year.
For me, stopping the run isn't as important as creating pressure on passing downs from the middle. The tacks had the best rush defense in the league last year and look where it got them. They got torched in the passing game.
The Jags will likely be in more than a few shootouts this year and they need to pressure the QB. Not too worried about Richardson, Stroud or Ridder in the first 4 weeks but obviously worried about Mahomes.
Then they play Josh Allen in week 5. Hopefully he is back for that game.
(09-01-2023, 11:06 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ] (09-01-2023, 10:48 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]They can put Fatukasi in the middle for that stuff. (if he's healthy!)
Hamilton is more effective as NT in pass sets.
That is where he excelled last year at moving the pocket and winning his one on ones.
He had the best pass pro win rate of all the Jags IDLs last year.
For me, stopping the run isn't as important as creating pressure on passing downs from the middle. The tacks had the best rush defense in the league last year and look where it got them. They got torched in the passing game.
The Jags will likely be in more than a few shootouts this year and they need to pressure the QB. Not too worried about Richardson, Stroud or Ridder in the first 4 weeks but obviously worried about Mahomes.
Then they play Josh Allen in week 5. Hopefully he is back for that game.
I think we'll know this in week 4 if he travels with the team to London. I doubt he flies out by himself after the Falcons game
(09-01-2023, 10:48 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ] (09-01-2023, 10:10 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]Really need him for the run heavy teams like Houston and Atlanta to anchor down the middle against Pierce and Robinson
They can put Fatukasi in the middle for that stuff. (if he's healthy!)
Hamilton is more effective as NT in pass sets.
That is where he excelled last year at moving the pocket and winning his one on ones.
He had the best pass pro win rate of all the Jags IDLs last year.
That's not saying much, we don't have anyone that can constantly create pressure on the inside, hes our best DT. He excelled the most against the run. He's our starting NT, on early downs you want Hamilton at NT and Fatukasi at 5 tech opposite RRH. If it's 3rd and long Hamilton is likely coming off the field
I'm much more worried about Robinson and Pierce than I am Ridder and Stroud and it would be nice to have the big fella out there . Fatukasi played NT decent for the Jets so hopefully he can pick his play of from last year while he fills in for Hamilton until he gets back along with Ledbetter
(09-01-2023, 11:56 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]I'm much more worried about Robinson and Pierce than I am Ridder and Stroud and it would be nice to have the big fella out there . Fatukasi played NT decent for the Jets so hopefully he can pick his play of from last year while he fills in for Hamilton until he gets back along with Ledbetter
They may list Fatukasi as a DT but he has been rotated at NT the whole time he's been here.
They just didn't put him there in obvious pass situations and formations, opting for Hamilton there instead.
Fatukasi at NT vs the run is not new and should not be a concern. It was literally why they signed him initially.
He was the third highest rated IDL vs the run in the one year the Jets used him as a NT. His health is the only concern.
(09-01-2023, 12:54 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ] (09-01-2023, 11:56 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]I'm much more worried about Robinson and Pierce than I am Ridder and Stroud and it would be nice to have the big fella out there . Fatukasi played NT decent for the Jets so hopefully he can pick his play of from last year while he fills in for Hamilton until he gets back along with Ledbetter
They may list Fatukasi as a DT but he has been rotated at NT the whole time he's been here.
They just didn't put him there in obvious pass situations and formations, opting for Hamilton there instead.
Fatukasi at NT vs the run is not new and should not be a concern. It was literally why they signed him initially.
He was the third highest rated IDL vs the run in the one year the Jets used him as a NT. His health is the only concern.
Coey Peters got a lot of snaps at NT last year. They didn't sign Fatukasi to be our NT. They signed him to be a starter on and part of our base 3 man front with Hamilton at NT and Fatukasi at 3 tech to beef up our run game. He played nowhere near as good last year as he did with the Jets a couple years ago, he didn't live up to his contract and you can say it was just because he was hurt bit you have no clue if that's the only reseaon why he wasn't very good last year, we can only hope. Hopefully he plays up to his contract this year and can step up in Hamiltons absence. And it's definitely a concern from the way he played last year, he was nowhere near as good as Hamilton
(08-30-2023, 06:59 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah - if we're griping about the last 2 or 3 practice squad players, you know things are doing OK on the actual depth chart.
I feel good about everything but nickel, pass rush depth, and OL depth.
That list is usually 3 or 4 complete position groups - and this year it's a single starting position and depth at a few others.
Not bad, Baalke. Not bad.
Half the fan base: Balkes a clown
Balke: and i took that personally.
(09-01-2023, 10:44 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: [ -> ] (08-30-2023, 06:59 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah - if we're griping about the last 2 or 3 practice squad players, you know things are doing OK on the actual depth chart.
I feel good about everything but nickel, pass rush depth, and OL depth.
That list is usually 3 or 4 complete position groups - and this year it's a single starting position and depth at a few others.
Not bad, Baalke. Not bad.
Half the fan base: Balkes a clown
Balke: and i took that personally.
I remember not too long ago when there was a lot of hate for clowns.
(09-01-2023, 10:44 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: [ -> ] (08-30-2023, 06:59 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah - if we're griping about the last 2 or 3 practice squad players, you know things are doing OK on the actual depth chart.
I feel good about everything but nickel, pass rush depth, and OL depth.
That list is usually 3 or 4 complete position groups - and this year it's a single starting position and depth at a few others.
Not bad, Baalke. Not bad.
Half the fan base: Balkes a clown
Balke: and i took that personally.
You literally used the clown avatar protesting Khan for keeping Baalke along with that "half" of the fanbase.
You should be apologizing to the man.
(09-02-2023, 10:33 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ] (09-01-2023, 10:44 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: [ -> ]Half the fan base: Balkes a clown
Balke: and i took that personally.
You literally used the clown avatar protesting Khan for keeping Baalke along with that "half" of the fanbase.
You should be apologizing to the man.
In his and half the fanbase’s defense, rumor has it Baalke was the one who pitched hiring Meyer. It makes sense because he had a prior affinity for college coaches (eg, Chip Kelly). Drafting Tavon Walker at #1, against conventional wisdom, still looks like an ego-driven quest to be seen as the smartest guy in the room. Yes, he’s drafted well overall here and struck gold on some free agent acquisitions, but let’s not overlook Pederson’s considerable influence over the operations. I’m sure he had a hand in merging the position coaches’ draft assessments with the scouts’. Pederson, who reportedly was leery of working with Baalke given his arrogant reputation, likely requested to report directly to Khan rather than Baalke. Thus, Baalke seems like a chastened man, willing to allow the coaches to have a lot of input on personnel.
(09-02-2023, 04:22 PM)TheDogCatcher Wrote: [ -> ] (09-02-2023, 10:33 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]You literally used the clown avatar protesting Khan for keeping Baalke along with that "half" of the fanbase.
You should be apologizing to the man.
In his and half the fanbase’s defense, rumor has it Baalke was the one who pitched hiring Meyer. It makes sense because he had a prior affinity for college coaches (eg, Chip Kelly). Drafting Tavon Walker at #1, against conventional wisdom, still looks like an ego-driven quest to be seen as the smartest guy in the room. Yes, he’s drafted well overall here and struck gold on some free agent acquisitions, but let’s not overlook Pederson’s considerable influence over the operations. I’m sure he had a hand in merging the position coaches’ draft assessments with the scouts’. Pederson, who reportedly was leery of working with Baalke given his arrogant reputation, likely requested to report directly to Khan rather than Baalke. Thus, Baalke seems like a chastened man, willing to allow the coaches to have a lot of input on personnel.
I never once heard Baalke pushed Meyer. Meyer was buddy-buddy with Khan from everything I heard.