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Little
Damien Lewis
JPJ
Robert Hunt
Anton

Unless they restructure Cam. Then he can start at LT and Little can be swing.

(02-10-2024, 11:53 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]Little
Damien Lewis
JPJ
Robert Hunt
Anton

Unless they restructure Cam. Then he can start at LT and Little can be swing.

Lewis is a name I had not seen associated with the Jaguars, but he is definitely someone that should be on their radar. He is only going to be 27 and looks like a guy who has even more upside. John Shipley actually mentioned him as a potential target and the price would be very affordable at less than $10 million per year.

Your projected line would naturally take a little time to get into sync, but I believe the potential is there to be very good. Little is the only question-mark due to his injuries and limited time at left tackle, but I have a feeling his best football is yet to come. 

The ages of these players beginning with Little are 24, 26, 21, 27 and 22. They could grow together with Lawrence and give the offensive line the strength and stability that has been absent for too long.

(02-10-2024, 11:53 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]Little
Damien Lewis
JPJ
Robert Hunt
Anton

Unless they restructure Cam. Then he can start at LT and Little can be swing.

I am assuming JPJ = Jackson Powers from Oregon.  I am not really sold on him as reports from the senior bowl have him with questionable footwork and a need to improve his ability to anchor against better competition.  He was reported to be getting pushed back quite a bit.  Our guys were there so they should know so no big deal. We already have one center who does that. Just cautious..

Also, Little needs to really improve his run blocking to be a starter..

(02-10-2024, 01:46 PM)Jag149 Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-10-2024, 11:53 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]Little
Damien Lewis
JPJ
Robert Hunt
Anton

Unless they restructure Cam. Then he can start at LT and Little can be swing.

I am assuming JPJ = Jackson Powers from Oregon.  I am not really sold on him as reports from the senior bowl have him with questionable footwork and a need to improve his ability to anchor against better competition.  He was reported to be getting pushed back quite a bit.  Our guys were there so they should know so no big deal. We already have one center who does that. Just cautious..

Also, Little needs to really improve his run blocking to be a starter..

Can you please link these reports?

Every single one I’ve seen said he dominated the senior bowl.

(02-10-2024, 01:48 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-10-2024, 01:46 PM)Jag149 Wrote: [ -> ]I am assuming JPJ = Jackson Powers from Oregon.  I am not really sold on him as reports from the senior bowl have him with questionable footwork and a need to improve his ability to anchor against better competition.  He was reported to be getting pushed back quite a bit.  Our guys were there so they should know so no big deal. We already have one center who does that. Just cautious..

Also, Little needs to really improve his run blocking to be a starter..

Can you please link these reports?

Every single one I’ve seen said he dominated the senior bowl.

It was on the Hacker After Dark (1010) last night.   He had a scout, Brad Spielberger from PFF on last night. This is what he said. He also discussed a few other players. How good an judge he is I have no idea, but there has to be something there.

If you go to 1010 you can hear what he said.

Its good to see more people jumping on the Powers-Johnson bandwagon. Center is a underrated position imo. If you look at the 4 championship teams 2 centers were drafted in the first and another in the second, most of the best olines have really good centers. Jonah Jackson is another possibility at LG for us as well. Hopefully we are able to get one of Hunt or Dotson in FA to fill RG

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(02-10-2024, 02:04 PM)Jag149 Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-10-2024, 01:48 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]Can you please link these reports?

Every single one I’ve seen said he dominated the senior bowl.

It was on the Hacker After Dark (1010) last night.   He had a scout, Brad Spielberger from PFF on last night. This is what he said. He also discussed a few other players. How good an judge he is I have no idea, but there has to be something there.

If you go to 1010 you can hear what he said.

He was the best offensive player at the SB.  Dominating Performances by Jackson Powers-Johnson, Quinyon Mitchell Earn Player of the Week Honors at Senior Bowl (profootballnetwork.com)

(02-10-2024, 02:16 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]Its good to see more people jumping on the Powers-Johnson bandwagon.  Center is a underrated position imo.  If you look at the 4 championship teams 2 centers were drafted in the first and another in the second, most of the best olines have really good centers.  Jonah Jackson is another possibility at LG for us as well. Hopefully we are able to get one of Hunt or Dotson in FA to fill RG

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(02-10-2024, 02:04 PM)Jag149 Wrote: [ -> ]It was on the Hacker After Dark (1010) last night.   He had a scout, Brad Spielberger from PFF on last night. This is what he said. He also discussed a few other players. How good an judge he is I have no idea, but there has to be something there.

If you go to 1010 you can hear what he said.

He was the best offensive player at the SB.  Dominating Performances by Jackson Powers-Johnson, Quinyon Mitchell Earn Player of the Week Honors at Senior Bowl (profootballnetwork.com)

Nice article. I was just letting the board know what was said.  Actually the guy covered a bunch of cap stuff. (AND for the Baalkie haters he politely roasted him) Not a bad listen after you get by the beginning..

[*]https://1010xl.com/post/shows/hacker-after-dark/

Whatever the Jags do in the draft this season, they need to bring in Conner Williams for depth. If healthy he's better than anyone they are going to draft AND Fortner. Give him a one year contract at 10 million and see what he can do. I'm saying 10 million because someone else is going to take a chance on him and offer 8 million for the year.

(02-10-2024, 03:11 PM)AnOldBrownie Wrote: [ -> ]Whatever the Jags do in the draft this season, they need to bring in Conner Williams for depth.  If healthy he's better than anyone they are going to draft AND Fortner.  Give him a one year contract at 10 million and see what he can do.    I'm saying 10 million because someone else is going to take a chance on him and offer 8 million for the year.

If we draft JPJ I don't think Williams will be better than him, even from day 1

(02-10-2024, 03:11 PM)AnOldBrownie Wrote: [ -> ]Whatever the Jags do in the draft this season, they need to bring in Conner Williams for depth.  If healthy he's better than anyone they are going to draft AND Fortner.  Give him a one year contract at 10 million and see what he can do.    I'm saying 10 million because someone else is going to take a chance on him and offer 8 million for the year.

I don't think Williams would be ready for the opener. Placed on IR (ACL) 12/13/23.  I know it will be tempting....lol

(02-10-2024, 02:16 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]Its good to see more people jumping on the Powers-Johnson bandwagon.  Center is a underrated position imo.  If you look at the 4 championship teams 2 centers were drafted in the first and another in the second, most of the best olines have really good centers.  Jonah Jackson is another possibility at LG for us as well. Hopefully we are able to get one of Hunt or Dotson in FA to fill RG

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(02-10-2024, 02:04 PM)Jag149 Wrote: [ -> ]It was on the Hacker After Dark (1010) last night.   He had a scout, Brad Spielberger from PFF on last night. This is what he said. He also discussed a few other players. How good an judge he is I have no idea, but there has to be something there.

If you go to 1010 you can hear what he said.

He was the best offensive player at the SB.  Dominating Performances by Jackson Powers-Johnson, Quinyon Mitchell Earn Player of the Week Honors at Senior Bowl (profootballnetwork.com)

Here is another article on the SB. This is PFF take.  A bit different than profootballnetwork.  No mention of Jackson Powers-Johnson. Not surprising as it is very early in the eval process, but that is what makes it fun...

https://www.pff.com/news/draft-full-2023...tice-recap

(02-10-2024, 05:11 PM)Jag149 Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-10-2024, 02:16 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]Its good to see more people jumping on the Powers-Johnson bandwagon.  Center is a underrated position imo.  If you look at the 4 championship teams 2 centers were drafted in the first and another in the second, most of the best olines have really good centers.  Jonah Jackson is another possibility at LG for us as well. Hopefully we are able to get one of Hunt or Dotson in FA to fill RG

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He was the best offensive player at the SB.  Dominating Performances by Jackson Powers-Johnson, Quinyon Mitchell Earn Player of the Week Honors at Senior Bowl (profootballnetwork.com)

Here is another article on the SB. This is PFF take.  A bit different than profootballnetwork.  No mention of Jackson Powers-Johnson. Not surprising as it is very early in the eval process, but that is what makes it fun...

https://www.pff.com/news/draft-full-2023...tice-recap

There’s no mention of him because it’s from last year lol

(02-10-2024, 05:15 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-10-2024, 05:11 PM)Jag149 Wrote: [ -> ]Here is another article on the SB. This is PFF take.  A bit different than profootballnetwork.  No mention of Jackson Powers-Johnson. Not surprising as it is very early in the eval process, but that is what makes it fun...

https://www.pff.com/news/draft-full-2023...tice-recap

There’s no mention of him because it’s from last year lol

yep, my bad...just been reading and confusing myself,...lol

not my last mistake, but when I make one I get my money's worth.

(02-10-2024, 03:11 PM)AnOldBrownie Wrote: [ -> ]Whatever the Jags do in the draft this season, they need to bring in Conner Williams for depth.  If healthy he's better than anyone they are going to draft AND Fortner.  Give him a one year contract at 10 million and see what he can do.    I'm saying 10 million because someone else is going to take a chance on him and offer 8 million for the year.

You can get healthy Jon Feliciano for 2 years/$8million and he can play all three interior line spots. I'd pay him whatever he wants to come here while the rookies grow up.

(02-10-2024, 05:45 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-10-2024, 03:11 PM)AnOldBrownie Wrote: [ -> ]Whatever the Jags do in the draft this season, they need to bring in Conner Williams for depth.  If healthy he's better than anyone they are going to draft AND Fortner.  Give him a one year contract at 10 million and see what he can do.    I'm saying 10 million because someone else is going to take a chance on him and offer 8 million for the year.

You can get healthy Jon Feliciano for 2 years/$8million and he can play all three interior line spots. I'd pay him whatever he wants to come here while the rookies grow up.

He'd be great value due to his ability to play multiple positions on the line. If they want JPJ and he's already taken, Feliciano could start at center and they could still get one of Fuaga, Fautanu or Latham. If they get JPJ, Feliciano could start at guard or provide quality depth.

(02-10-2024, 11:31 AM)Newton Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah lack of interior line strength is the number 1 priority to correct. Pass blocking is really important (not that they were great at that), but the ability to reliably run for 1-2 yards is incredibly important. Short yardage situations kept us out of the playoffs.

If the running game could improve to middle of the pack, the pass blocking would improve just by the sheer amount of respect that would have to be taken into consideration with the running game.

It would open up shorter down situations and something that we all know Lawrence can REALLY thrive off of and that's the play action game. Virtually every time this kid gets a very limited opportunity to work off a successfully blocked play action design he has big play ability downfield.

It was completely suffocated out of the play book last year. Etienne is also too good of a player to be limited to just a pair of 100 yard rushing games on the year. That was a somber statistic as well in and of itself.

(02-10-2024, 05:45 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-10-2024, 03:11 PM)AnOldBrownie Wrote: [ -> ]Whatever the Jags do in the draft this season, they need to bring in Conner Williams for depth.  If healthy he's better than anyone they are going to draft AND Fortner.  Give him a one year contract at 10 million and see what he can do.    I'm saying 10 million because someone else is going to take a chance on him and offer 8 million for the year.

You can get healthy Jon Feliciano for 2 years/$8million and he can play all three interior line spots. I'd pay him whatever he wants to come here while the rookies grow up.

I'll take 2 of those !

I think a South Pacific scouting trip is in order. Go to Hawaii, American Samoa, Fiji, and all islands in between. Recruit the biggest, meanest road grading Samoans that are currently on this planet. 6'5' 350 lb are the minimum specs required. Sign em, bring em home, coach em up, and unleash them on the rest of the league. The sort of line that even Tank Bigsby could get 90 to 100 ypg behind.

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(02-10-2024, 06:57 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-10-2024, 11:31 AM)Newton Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah lack of interior line strength is the number 1 priority to correct. Pass blocking is really important (not that they were great at that), but the ability to reliably run for 1-2 yards is incredibly important. Short yardage situations kept us out of the playoffs.

If the running game could improve to middle of the pack, the pass blocking would improve just by the sheer amount of respect that would have to be taken into consideration with the running game.

It would open up shorter down situations and something that we all know Lawrence can REALLY thrive off of and that's the play action game. Virtually every time this kid gets a very limited opportunity to work off a successfully blocked play action design he has big play ability downfield.

It was completely suffocated out of the play book last year. Etienne is also too good of a player to be limited to just a pair of 100 yard rushing games on the year. That was a somber statistic as well in and of itself.

ETN needs to take a lesson from little bro Trevor and start bouncing his runs outside when there is no hole to go thru. He thinks he's Mike Alstott/Eddie George/Larry Czonka when hes actually Chris Johnson/Mercury Morris.  Running up the backs of your O line is never a formula for success.

(02-14-2024, 02:28 AM)NewJagsCity Wrote: [ -> ]I think a South Pacific scouting trip is in order. Go to Hawaii, American Samoa, Fiji, and all islands in between. Recruit the biggest, meanest road grading Samoans that are currently on this planet. 6'5' 350 lb are the minimum specs required. Sign em, bring em home, coach em up, and unleash them on the rest of the league. The sort of line that even Tank Bigsby could get 90 to 100 ypg behind.

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(02-10-2024, 06:57 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]If the running game could improve to middle of the pack, the pass blocking would improve just by the sheer amount of respect that would have to be taken into consideration with the running game.

It would open up shorter down situations and something that we all know Lawrence can REALLY thrive off of and that's the play action game. Virtually every time this kid gets a very limited opportunity to work off a successfully blocked play action design he has big play ability downfield.

It was completely suffocated out of the play book last year. Etienne is also too good of a player to be limited to just a pair of 100 yard rushing games on the year. That was a somber statistic as well in and of itself.

ETN needs to take a lesson from little bro Trevor and start bouncing his runs outside when there is no hole to go thru. He thinks he's Mike Alstott/Eddie George/Larry Czonka when hes actually Chris Johnson/Mercury Morris.  Running up the backs of your O line is never a formula for success.

ETN is not at fault. He was breaking tackles in the backfield on nearly every run after the bye week.

(02-14-2024, 09:20 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-14-2024, 02:28 AM)NewJagsCity Wrote: [ -> ]I think a South Pacific scouting trip is in order. Go to Hawaii, American Samoa, Fiji, and all islands in between. Recruit the biggest, meanest road grading Samoans that are currently on this planet. 6'5' 350 lb are the minimum specs required. Sign em, bring em home, coach em up, and unleash them on the rest of the league. The sort of line that even Tank Bigsby could get 90 to 100 ypg behind.

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ETN needs to take a lesson from little bro Trevor and start bouncing his runs outside when there is no hole to go thru. He thinks he's Mike Alstott/Eddie George/Larry Czonka when hes actually Chris Johnson/Mercury Morris.  Running up the backs of your O line is never a formula for success.

ETN is not at fault. He was breaking tackles in the backfield on nearly every run after the bye week.

There were a few times I thought Cam was introducing his DT buddy to ETN.