(02-28-2024, 05:14 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ] (02-28-2024, 05:09 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]I wasnt talking about you. Baalke has been doing a better job
It's a hard job, for sure. I think it's easier when it's just average joe's and jane's looking at big boards, youtube highlights and not actually in a War Room with 15 minutes on the clock and a bunch of people looking at you like a puppy with beggar's look in their eyes.
Only one team wins the Superbowl every year, and, while it's impressive that some teams can build really good rosters and find really good players in various rounds? It means [BLEEP] all once their contracts expire, someone gets injured or they simply keep falling short and run out of time.
Nobody's going to remember John Lynch and Kyle Shanahan the way that they will remember Brett Veach and Andy Reid. It's just the way it is.
The draft should be the easy part because at that point the board is made and just follow your board. The one thing we don't get is the interviews. The interview process is something that should break some players you have rated equally if one interview goes better than the other. They also deep dive into their background something we can't really do.
(02-28-2024, 05:22 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ] (02-28-2024, 05:14 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]It's a hard job, for sure. I think it's easier when it's just average joe's and jane's looking at big boards, youtube highlights and not actually in a War Room with 15 minutes on the clock and a bunch of people looking at you like a puppy with beggar's look in their eyes.
Only one team wins the Superbowl every year, and, while it's impressive that some teams can build really good rosters and find really good players in various rounds? It means [BLEEP] all once their contracts expire, someone gets injured or they simply keep falling short and run out of time.
Nobody's going to remember John Lynch and Kyle Shanahan the way that they will remember Brett Veach and Andy Reid. It's just the way it is.
The draft should be the easy part because at that point the board is made and just follow your board. The one thing we don't get is the interviews. The interview process is something that should break some players you have rated equally if one interview goes better than the other. They also deep dive into their background something we can't really do.
Yeah. I remember over the years hearing some interesting things about all of that. The most notorious one about Dez Bryant's mom being asked if she was a prostitute. That was wild to me.
The other one I found interesting was how one team had hired a PI type of guy to keep tabs on Justin Blackmon leading up to the draft and they took a count of how many times he kept frequenting a bar in his hometown area.
I get it. It's millions of dollars up for grabs. It's a specific pick in a few rounds that could make or break a team's fortunes, just like that. I agree, though, it SHOULD be the easy part, but, it's clearly not.
The General Manager role changes just as much as the Head Coaching job does around the NFL. That's why I have a great deal of admiration and respect for guys like Ozzie Newsome & Bill Polian (Even though his take on Lamar Jackson was horribly wrong and way off evaluation wise).
Everybody thought Tom Dimitroff was the next big thing. After a 12 year run with the Falcons he's nowhere to be found now. Think he's been out of football since 2020.
(02-28-2024, 05:22 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ] (02-28-2024, 05:14 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]It's a hard job, for sure. I think it's easier when it's just average joe's and jane's looking at big boards, youtube highlights and not actually in a War Room with 15 minutes on the clock and a bunch of people looking at you like a puppy with beggar's look in their eyes.
Only one team wins the Superbowl every year, and, while it's impressive that some teams can build really good rosters and find really good players in various rounds? It means [BLEEP] all once their contracts expire, someone gets injured or they simply keep falling short and run out of time.
Nobody's going to remember John Lynch and Kyle Shanahan the way that they will remember Brett Veach and Andy Reid. It's just the way it is.
The draft should be the easy part because at that point the board is made and just follow your board. The one thing we don't get is the interviews. The interview process is something that should break some players you have rated equally if one interview goes better than the other. They also deep dive into their background something we can't really do.
It's not as easy as just following a draft board, particularly when you're adding in draft-day trades. I think something that doesn't get talked about enough, is all of the non-executed trades. The GM has to continuously value draft capital (picks) vs the players that are still available. Whether player X is or isn't worth trading up for and if so how much is he worth? Do you think player Y will be available after trading down, is taking a chance he's not worth a 2nd round pick, or is it worth a 2nd and next years 3rd, etc.
(02-28-2024, 09:41 PM)cland Wrote: [ -> ] (02-28-2024, 05:22 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]The draft should be the easy part because at that point the board is made and just follow your board. The one thing we don't get is the interviews. The interview process is something that should break some players you have rated equally if one interview goes better than the other. They also deep dive into their background something we can't really do.
It's not as easy as just following a draft board, particularly when you're adding in draft-day trades. I think something that doesn't get talked about enough, is all of the non-executed trades. The GM has to continuously value draft capital (picks) vs the players that are still available. Whether player X is or isn't worth trading up for and if so how much is he worth? Do you think player Y will be available after trading down, is taking a chance he's not worth a 2nd round pick, or is it worth a 2nd and next years 3rd, etc.
The trades can get a little tricky. But the good ones know how to handle the trades. Each scenario could be different. As far as trading up, it's just how bad do you want the player and what capital are you are willing to give up.
Trading down, like you said. How do you have the guys ranked who you feel will be there where you trade back to, what are you getting in the trade etc. Unlimited scenarios
I watched this last week, it's a good watch if anyone has time. The Lions war room
https://youtu.be/NQsk1VLyeo8?si=TYAKfruwVpk_S2YF
(02-28-2024, 05:02 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (02-28-2024, 04:38 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]This team would have a much better roster than it has the last 15 years
LOL, maybe actually throwing darts at a list of names each draft would probably have been better. Letting some of you yahoos in on the decisions would be like giving a toddler a rattlesnake.
darft is one thing. We just gotta keep the message board away from FA!
(02-28-2024, 05:14 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]Nobody's going to remember John Lynch and Kyle Shanahan the way that they will remember Brett Veach and Andy Reid. It's just the way it is.
I don’t think you’re allowed to deliver that line without some backing piano.
https://youtu.be/T7XfV9rwOy8?si=dw4k8pD7TQYvpS1V
(02-28-2024, 09:41 PM)cland Wrote: [ -> ] (02-28-2024, 05:22 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]The draft should be the easy part because at that point the board is made and just follow your board. The one thing we don't get is the interviews. The interview process is something that should break some players you have rated equally if one interview goes better than the other. They also deep dive into their background something we can't really do.
It's not as easy as just following a draft board, particularly when you're adding in draft-day trades. I think something that doesn't get talked about enough, is all of the non-executed trades. The GM has to continuously value draft capital (picks) vs the players that are still available. Whether player X is or isn't worth trading up for and if so how much is he worth? Do you think player Y will be available after trading down, is taking a chance he's not worth a 2nd round pick, or is it worth a 2nd and next years 3rd, etc.
Thank you, I wanted to say the same idea but words is not my strong suit this morning. So much more than running the sims that some websites run. Or just making a board and waiting patiently for your pick to come up and take the top guy left unselected.
(02-28-2024, 09:41 PM)cland Wrote: [ -> ] (02-28-2024, 05:22 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]The draft should be the easy part because at that point the board is made and just follow your board. The one thing we don't get is the interviews. The interview process is something that should break some players you have rated equally if one interview goes better than the other. They also deep dive into their background something we can't really do.
It's not as easy as just following a draft board, particularly when you're adding in draft-day trades. I think something that doesn't get talked about enough, is all of the non-executed trades. The GM has to continuously value draft capital (picks) vs the players that are still available. Whether player X is or isn't worth trading up for and if so how much is he worth? Do you think player Y will be available after trading down, is taking a chance he's not worth a 2nd round pick, or is it worth a 2nd and next years 3rd, etc.
To add, just following your draft board without regard to how the draft is unfolding or without regard to positional strengths and weaknesses of a particular class will, more likely than not, have you leaving with a less optimal group of selections.
As an example, let’s say on your board the WR group of a given draft class is very strong and deep and defensive tackle has a big drop off after the first couple of guys and these two positions are also your biggest needs. You’re on the clock in the late 1st. There are 3 worthy receivers left on the board which you have graded at 90, 89 and 88. There’s also one worthy DT left which you have graded at 85 and then the next guy after him is in the mid 70’s. Other positional grades outside of WR top out in the high 70’s. You pick again in the top half of the 2nd and there’s a decent chance that WR graded at 88 is still there. What do you do in the 1st? Do you risk missing out on one of those 3 highly rated WRs or do you stay true to your board and take the 90 grade and wind up with some mid guy at another position in the 2nd? Add in that the 31 other big boards all have the players graded slightly differently if not significantly so.
I don't think there’s necessarily a right answer to the above scenario unless you can be assured of getting the DT and one of the 3 WRs, but you can’t be assured of that when you make the decision on how to spend your 1st. It’s not as simple as just “following your board” or at least it shouldn’t be. There are tough decisions like that regularly I’d think. More so in the earlier rounds I’m sure. If you just follow your board I think you’re gonna wind up getting finessed by other GMs and I’m generally a BAP guy. Just obviously not pure BAP as I recognize where it could potentially steer you wrong. Pure need is a recipe for disaster though. You can just put me in the BADC (Best Available Draft Class) camp.
(02-29-2024, 08:58 AM)Mikey Wrote: [ -> ] (02-28-2024, 09:41 PM)cland Wrote: [ -> ]It's not as easy as just following a draft board, particularly when you're adding in draft-day trades. I think something that doesn't get talked about enough, is all of the non-executed trades. The GM has to continuously value draft capital (picks) vs the players that are still available. Whether player X is or isn't worth trading up for and if so how much is he worth? Do you think player Y will be available after trading down, is taking a chance he's not worth a 2nd round pick, or is it worth a 2nd and next years 3rd, etc.
Thank you, I wanted to say the same idea but words is not my strong suit this morning. So much more than running the sims that some websites run. Or just making a board and waiting patiently for your pick to come up and take the top guy left unselected.
It's not a rule where you have to make a trade. If you feel like you aren't competent enough to make a trade in your favor then don't make a trade. If you have a good board made up and you take the top guy you will be successful in this league. You can fill needs in FA. Our problem is just our board has sucked over the years
(02-29-2024, 09:58 AM)Jaguarmeister Wrote: [ -> ] (02-28-2024, 09:41 PM)cland Wrote: [ -> ]It's not as easy as just following a draft board, particularly when you're adding in draft-day trades. I think something that doesn't get talked about enough, is all of the non-executed trades. The GM has to continuously value draft capital (picks) vs the players that are still available. Whether player X is or isn't worth trading up for and if so how much is he worth? Do you think player Y will be available after trading down, is taking a chance he's not worth a 2nd round pick, or is it worth a 2nd and next years 3rd, etc.
To add, just following your draft board without regard to how the draft is unfolding or without regard to positional strengths and weaknesses of a particular class will more likely than not have you leaving with a less optimal group of selections.
As an example, let’s say on your board the WR group of a given draft class is very strong and deep and defensive tackle has a big drop off after the first couple of guys and these two positions are also your biggest needs. You’re on the clock in the late 1st. There are 3 worthy receivers left on the board which you have graded at 90, 89 and 88. There’s also one worthy DT left which you have graded at 85 and then the next guy after him is in the mid 70’s. Other positional grades outside of WR top out in the high 70’s. You pick again in the top half of the 2nd and there’s a decent chance that WR graded at 88 is still there. What do you do in the 1st? Do you risk missing out on one of those 3 highly rated WRs or do you stay true to your board and take the 90 grade and wind up with some mid guy at another position in the 2nd? Add in that the 31 other big boards all have the players graded slightly differently if not significantly so.
I don't think there’s necessarily a right answer to the above scenario unless you can be assured of getting the DT and one of the 3 WRs, but you can’t be assured of that when you make the decision on how to spend your 1st. It’s not as simple as just “following your board” or at least it shouldn’t be. There are tough decisions like that regularly I’d think. More so in the earlier rounds I’m sure. If you just follow your board I think you’re gonna wind up getting finessed by other GMs and I’m generally a BAP guy. Just obviously not pure BAP as I recognize where it could potentially steer you wrong. Pure need is a recipe for disaster though. You can just put me in the BADC (Best Available Draft Class) camp.
- Best available according to your board
- Positional Value
- Positional depth in particular draft class
- Prioritized Needs
- Projected depth of class at all of your needs
If anyone is not accounting for ALL of these factors - they are bungling their draft.
If any GM looks at a camera and tells you he's going to take the top player available from his board at every pick he is lying through his teeth. That's a fairy tale.
When you get down to the nitty-gritty of it - it is about exactly how far you deviate from your board to take a player that will be more valuable to your team than a player available you graded slightly higher but don't need.
That fine line between choosing value over grade and flat out
"reaching."
(02-29-2024, 12:45 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ] (02-29-2024, 09:58 AM)Jaguarmeister Wrote: [ -> ]To add, just following your draft board without regard to how the draft is unfolding or without regard to positional strengths and weaknesses of a particular class will more likely than not have you leaving with a less optimal group of selections.
As an example, let’s say on your board the WR group of a given draft class is very strong and deep and defensive tackle has a big drop off after the first couple of guys and these two positions are also your biggest needs. You’re on the clock in the late 1st. There are 3 worthy receivers left on the board which you have graded at 90, 89 and 88. There’s also one worthy DT left which you have graded at 85 and then the next guy after him is in the mid 70’s. Other positional grades outside of WR top out in the high 70’s. You pick again in the top half of the 2nd and there’s a decent chance that WR graded at 88 is still there. What do you do in the 1st? Do you risk missing out on one of those 3 highly rated WRs or do you stay true to your board and take the 90 grade and wind up with some mid guy at another position in the 2nd? Add in that the 31 other big boards all have the players graded slightly differently if not significantly so.
I don't think there’s necessarily a right answer to the above scenario unless you can be assured of getting the DT and one of the 3 WRs, but you can’t be assured of that when you make the decision on how to spend your 1st. It’s not as simple as just “following your board” or at least it shouldn’t be. There are tough decisions like that regularly I’d think. More so in the earlier rounds I’m sure. If you just follow your board I think you’re gonna wind up getting finessed by other GMs and I’m generally a BAP guy. Just obviously not pure BAP as I recognize where it could potentially steer you wrong. Pure need is a recipe for disaster though. You can just put me in the BADC (Best Available Draft Class) camp.
- Best available according to your board
- Positional Value
- Positional depth in particular draft class
- Prioritized Needs
- Projected depth of class at all of your needs
If anyone is not accounting for ALL of these factors - they are bungling their draft.
If any GM looks at a camera and tells you he's going to take the top player available from his board at every pick he is lying through his teeth. That's a fairy tale.
No one is ever a pure BAP drafter, mainly because people that draft kickers and punters get laughed at.
(02-29-2024, 12:45 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ] (02-29-2024, 09:58 AM)Jaguarmeister Wrote: [ -> ]To add, just following your draft board without regard to how the draft is unfolding or without regard to positional strengths and weaknesses of a particular class will more likely than not have you leaving with a less optimal group of selections.
As an example, let’s say on your board the WR group of a given draft class is very strong and deep and defensive tackle has a big drop off after the first couple of guys and these two positions are also your biggest needs. You’re on the clock in the late 1st. There are 3 worthy receivers left on the board which you have graded at 90, 89 and 88. There’s also one worthy DT left which you have graded at 85 and then the next guy after him is in the mid 70’s. Other positional grades outside of WR top out in the high 70’s. You pick again in the top half of the 2nd and there’s a decent chance that WR graded at 88 is still there. What do you do in the 1st? Do you risk missing out on one of those 3 highly rated WRs or do you stay true to your board and take the 90 grade and wind up with some mid guy at another position in the 2nd? Add in that the 31 other big boards all have the players graded slightly differently if not significantly so.
I don't think there’s necessarily a right answer to the above scenario unless you can be assured of getting the DT and one of the 3 WRs, but you can’t be assured of that when you make the decision on how to spend your 1st. It’s not as simple as just “following your board” or at least it shouldn’t be. There are tough decisions like that regularly I’d think. More so in the earlier rounds I’m sure. If you just follow your board I think you’re gonna wind up getting finessed by other GMs and I’m generally a BAP guy. Just obviously not pure BAP as I recognize where it could potentially steer you wrong. Pure need is a recipe for disaster though. You can just put me in the BADC (Best Available Draft Class) camp.
- Best available according to your board
- Positional Value
- Positional depth in particular draft class
- Prioritized Needs
- Projected depth of class at all of your needs
If anyone is not accounting for ALL of these factors - they are bungling their draft.
If any GM looks at a camera and tells you he's going to take the top player available from his board at every pick he is lying through his teeth. That's a fairy tale.
When you get down to the nitty-gritty of it - it is about exactly how far you deviate from your board to take a player that will be more valuable to your team than a player available you graded slightly higher but don't need.
That fine line between choosing value over grade and flat out "reaching."
Agreed. Also, I think a pick like Muma winds up happening because he was probably graded head and shoulders better than anyone left on your board (BAP), but you were probably hoping/expecting someone else at a different position to have been there. The draft didn't unfold the way you wanted/expected, but you made the "best decision" you could given the new circumstances when you were on the clock. If the mandate is just "build board/draft top guy" at each selection every round without care, you can input that into a computer and have it auto draft for you and get the same results. No need for a GM after the board is built if that's the case. I don't think that's necessarily what happened at the Muma pick even if it looks like it after the fact. In other words, I don't think the failure was in the pick, it was in the preparation for the draft. In Baalke's defense, it's a very difficult task to prepare for 31 other hidden agendas while protecting your own. You're not going to win every pick, every scenario or every draft, you just have to win more than you lose to be considered good. I think even those of us in the "Calm the [BLEEP] Down" camp with regards to firing Baalke are of the opinion that he doesn't have a lot of wiggle room left for failure moving forward though.
(02-29-2024, 02:00 PM)Jaguarmeister Wrote: [ -> ] (02-29-2024, 12:45 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]- Best available according to your board
- Positional Value
- Positional depth in particular draft class
- Prioritized Needs
- Projected depth of class at all of your needs
If anyone is not accounting for ALL of these factors - they are bungling their draft.
If any GM looks at a camera and tells you he's going to take the top player available from his board at every pick he is lying through his teeth. That's a fairy tale.
When you get down to the nitty-gritty of it - it is about exactly how far you deviate from your board to take a player that will be more valuable to your team than a player available you graded slightly higher but don't need.
That fine line between choosing value over grade and flat out "reaching."
Agreed. Also, I think a pick like Muma winds up happening because he was probably graded head and shoulders better than anyone left on your board (BAP), but you were probably hoping/expecting someone else at a different position to have been there. The draft didn't unfold the way you wanted/expected, but you made the "best decision" you could given the new circumstances when you were on the clock. If the mandate is just "build board/draft top guy" at each selection every round without care, you can input that into a computer and have it auto draft for you and get the same results. No need for a GM after the board is built if that's the case. I don't think that's necessarily what happened at the Muma pick even if it looks like it after the fact. In other words, I don't think the failure was in the pick, it was in the preparation for the draft. In Baalke's defense, it's a very difficult task to prepare for 31 other hidden agendas while protecting your own. You're not going to win every pick, every scenario or every draft, you just have to win more than you lose to be considered good. I think even those of us in the "Calm the [BLEEP] Down" camp with regards to firing Baalke are of the opinion that he doesn't have a lot of wiggle room left for failure moving forward though.
Yeah.
He's painted himself into a corner a bit.
As I see it - he has a list of requirements to prove he's worthy of keeping the job:
- Improve the OL enough to bring run game back from the dead
- Get TL enough protection to get through the season mostly healthy and able to take more PA shots downfield
- Find more interior push on IDL
- Get Nielsen enough of what he needs to shore up the secondary to mid-tier level (yard allowed + RZ performance)
- Manage contracts for obvious FAs and impending deals adequately
Another thing that would really help him is Walker continuing to improve at edge and however else Nielsen deploys him + last years early picks showing value in the offense in year 2
That's a lot.
Do-able - but a lot.
(02-29-2024, 02:21 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ] (02-29-2024, 02:00 PM)Jaguarmeister Wrote: [ -> ]Agreed. Also, I think a pick like Muma winds up happening because he was probably graded head and shoulders better than anyone left on your board (BAP), but you were probably hoping/expecting someone else at a different position to have been there. The draft didn't unfold the way you wanted/expected, but you made the "best decision" you could given the new circumstances when you were on the clock. If the mandate is just "build board/draft top guy" at each selection every round without care, you can input that into a computer and have it auto draft for you and get the same results. No need for a GM after the board is built if that's the case. I don't think that's necessarily what happened at the Muma pick even if it looks like it after the fact. In other words, I don't think the failure was in the pick, it was in the preparation for the draft. In Baalke's defense, it's a very difficult task to prepare for 31 other hidden agendas while protecting your own. You're not going to win every pick, every scenario or every draft, you just have to win more than you lose to be considered good. I think even those of us in the "Calm the [BLEEP] Down" camp with regards to firing Baalke are of the opinion that he doesn't have a lot of wiggle room left for failure moving forward though.
Yeah.
He's painted himself into a corner a bit.
As I see it - he has a list of requirements to prove he's worthy of keeping the job:- Improve the OL enough to bring run game back from the dead
- Get TL enough protection to get through the season mostly healthy and able to take more PA shots downfield
- Find more interior push on IDL
- Get Nielsen enough of what he needs to shore up the secondary to mid-tier level (yard allowed + RZ performance)
- Manage contracts for obvious FAs and impending deals adequately
Another thing that would really help him is Walker continuing to improve at edge and however else Nielsen deploys him + last years early picks showing value in the offense in year 2
That's a lot.
Do-able - but a lot.
A sleeper for next year is 100% Antonio Johnson
Was preety good during the season in limited reps
I expected neilsen to take him to the next level
(02-29-2024, 12:28 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ] (02-29-2024, 08:58 AM)Mikey Wrote: [ -> ]Thank you, I wanted to say the same idea but words is not my strong suit this morning. So much more than running the sims that some websites run. Or just making a board and waiting patiently for your pick to come up and take the top guy left unselected.
It's not a rule where you have to make a trade. If you feel like you aren't competent enough to make a trade in your favor then don't make a trade. If you have a good board made up and you take the top guy you will be successful in this league. You can fill needs in FA. Our problem is just our board has sucked over the years
This is how you darft 3 ILB in two years while already having one of the best in the league acquired via FA, though. Grape jerb.
(03-01-2024, 02:31 AM)StrayaJag Wrote: [ -> ] (02-29-2024, 02:21 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah.
He's painted himself into a corner a bit.
As I see it - he has a list of requirements to prove he's worthy of keeping the job:- Improve the OL enough to bring run game back from the dead
- Get TL enough protection to get through the season mostly healthy and able to take more PA shots downfield
- Find more interior push on IDL
- Get Nielsen enough of what he needs to shore up the secondary to mid-tier level (yard allowed + RZ performance)
- Manage contracts for obvious FAs and impending deals adequately
Another thing that would really help him is Walker continuing to improve at edge and however else Nielsen deploys him + last years early picks showing value in the offense in year 2
That's a lot.
Do-able - but a lot.
A sleeper for next year is 100% Antonio Johnson
Was preety good during the season in limited reps
I expected neilsen to take him to the next level
I'm excited to see what Nielsen/Kris Richard/Cory Robinson do to develop all of those DBs. There is young talent on the roster in need of taking the next step. Johnson made some plays and showed mostly good instincts. He could certainly compete for a start or end up as quality depth.
In the same way - I'm eager to see what Matt House can do to keep bringing Lloyd along inside and what Garrett does for our IDL (hopefully with a new addition of talent coming in.)
(03-01-2024, 10:17 AM)Mikey Wrote: [ -> ] (02-29-2024, 12:28 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]It's not a rule where you have to make a trade. If you feel like you aren't competent enough to make a trade in your favor then don't make a trade. If you have a good board made up and you take the top guy you will be successful in this league. You can fill needs in FA. Our problem is just our board has sucked over the years
This is how you darft 3 ILB in two years while already having one of the best in the league acquired via FA, though. Grape jerb.
They all would of been great picks if they are the best player out of all the players left on the board. Their board has sucked though, thats the problem. I also don't think they drafted 3 ILB, it was 3 LB's. We shall see if they start OLB this year. The problem with our 2nd round pick last year wasn't that we took a TE, it's a TE that isn't that good. If we took LA Porta with that 2nd round pick it would of been a great pick. With that said hopefully Strange lights it up this year and he can prove it was a good pick
Players can't prove if they're a good draft pick if they don't see the field.
LaPorta wouldn't have been playing even half the amount of time he got in Detroit if he was a Jag.... Since they have Engram.
You are aloud to have 2 TEs on the field at the same time. Strange didn't see the field nowhere near as much because when they gave him an opportunity he sucked, It's not because we have Engram, I guarantee they planned on Strange having a much bigger impact than he did, he just sucked. Did you not watch football when the Pats had Gronk and Hernandez?