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Quote:The uproar is over rouge cops black, white, etc continuously not being held accountable for their actions.


One of my Caucasian co workers who posted a "black lives matter" status is being killed on Facebook. She is being called a [BAD WORD REMOVED] lover, etc.


There are people in Chicago protesting against black on black violence as I type this.


Right, and you see nothing about that in the media. All the media cares about is causing riots and race wars.
Quote:Then first of all, based on this...  You are training people that go into the police force to be pigs.  I'm sorry, but that's the bottom line.  To Stop Action based on your defending these pigs means that the action to stop is the life of that "perp".  Point blank shot to the head, but you need 4 more shots to stop the action?????  Are you numb to reality??? 

 

JIB, you're a rare breed.  What's best is that you are also a minority breed that is being left behind as rationality is finally gaining ground again.

 

If putting 5 or 6 shots point blank is justifiable in your mind, you are advocating a pig force, not a peacekeeping force.  I'm not down with that.  

 

With all due respect to you and the pigs that are trained this way.  It's not 'murica to have officers that kill first and then worry about their paid admin leave...  Sorry bro.  But you're on the wrong side of this.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

With all due respect to you.  And no respect due to the PIGS


You really think you're winning this debate by emphasizing pigs?


A local affiliate in Dallas is running video of what is reportedly someone opening fire with a rifle, hitting two police officers during a protest. You must be overjoyed.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...owner.html




Store owner has video that shows entire shooting.. Store owner says police illegally siezed the video.. Although he had prior arrest he didnt deserve to die.. Not like that...
tipping point in Dallas this is why I won't live in the city. 
Quote:<a class="bbc_url" href='http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3679728/Third-set-cameras-captured-second-Alton-Sterling-s-shooting-cops-officers-seized-recording-without-warrant-refusing-hand-owner.html'>http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3679728/Third-set-cameras-captured-second-Alton-Sterling-s-shooting-cops-officers-seized-recording-without-warrant-refusing-hand-owner.html</a>

Store owner has video that shows entire shooting.. Store owner says police illegally siezed the video.. Although he had prior arrest he didnt deserve to die.. Not like that...


You're right. And if he hadn't resisted, and hadn't been carrying a gun illegally, he'd probably be alive right now.
Quote:You really think you're winning this debate by emphasizing pigs?


A local affiliate in Dallas is running video of what is reportedly someone opening fire with a rifle, hitting two police officers during a protest. You must be overjoyed.
 

Yes, I do.  They are PIGS.  Why should I give them any respect?  I repsect the law.  And I respect those that enforce the law.  I'm not going to give any deference to those that hide behind authority and commit murder.  Those are pigs to me.  

 

I can find the line between corruption within a beuraucracy and respect for those that serve it.  These pigs need to be called out for what they are in order to seperate them from those that are actual lawful officers of justice.

 

To defend these pigs is to smear the entire system they work within.  Though, it may be said there needs to be changes to the system as well.  For one, we need to end this war on drugs that makes all of us suspects.  

 

Again, if you are training people to shoot first and ask questions later, you're training a pig force.  Did you know that our current "police force" kills citizens at a rate almost 100X's higher than other "developed" countries?  We house 25% of all criminals and only have 5% of the entire world population.  I mean, we have a sick system.  These deaths and attacks on the poor black AND white AND brown of our society is a symptom of a really sick system.  

 

It's time to face the fact that we aren't exceptional when compared to other developed nations.  We've lost our way, and it's not Trump that is gonna make us great again.

 

Also, I find it hilarious that you are willng to jump to conclusions with a dallas video reportedly showing an attack on cops.  But when it comes to citizens that are shown on video being murdered by pigs, you want to wait for all the evidence and give as much benefit of the doubt to those murderers.  You realize that a citizenry that is upset with a valid injustice that has been happening for decades does not lay the blame of people that are recognizing it.  But, I get your point.  You are using partisanship to create a wedge issue.  But, like I said to JIB.  You are a rare breed.  A breed that is slowly being pushed aside by history.
Quote:Right, and you see nothing about that in the media. All the media cares about is causing riots and race wars.
 

To many people of a disadvantaged class, the race/class war has been going on for a while...  That's why these video's of black people that didn't deserve to die causes such frustration.  You don't understand that?  
Quote:Yes, I do.  They are PIGS.  Why should I give them any respect?  I repsect the law.  And I respect those that enforce the law.  I'm not going to give any deference to those that hide behind authority and commit murder.  Those are pigs to me.  

 

I can find the line between corruption within a beuraucracy and respect for those that serve it.  These pigs need to be called out for what they are in order to seperate them from those that are actual lawful officers of justice.

 

To defend these pigs is to smear the entire system they work within.  Though, it may be said there needs to be changes to the system as well.  For one, we need to end this war on drugs that makes all of us suspects.  

 

Again, if you are training people to shoot first and ask questions later, you're training a pig force.  Did you know that our current "police force" kills citizens at a rate almost 100X's higher than other "developed" countries?  We house 25% of all criminals and only have 5% of the entire world population.  I mean, we have a sick system.  These deaths and attacks on the poor black AND white AND brown of our society is a symptom of a really sick system.  

 

It's time to face the fact that we aren't exceptional when compared to other developed nations.  We've lost our way, and it's not Trump that is gonna make us great again.

 

Also, I find it hilarious that you are willng to jump to conclusions with a dallas video reportedly showing an attack on cops.  But when it comes to citizens that are shown on video being murdered by pigs, you want to wait for all the evidence and give as much benefit of the doubt to those murderers.  You realize that a citizenry that is upset with a valid injustice that has been happening for decades does not lay the blame of people that are recognizing it.  But, I get your point.  You are using partisanship to create a wedge issue.  But, like I said to JIB.  You are a rare breed.  A breed that is slowly being pushed aside by history.


Right. It's just a coincidence that two officers in Dallas were shot during a protest of the shootings in MN and LA. That's a partisan thing? Really?
Quote:Right. It's just a coincidence that two officers in Dallas were shot during a protest of the shootings in MN and LA. That's a partisan thing? Really?
 

I don't know.  I'd like to wait for all the evidence to be laid out.  Isn't that your standard defense for whenever a PIG murders a citizen?
2 cops shot in Dallas right now. I guess if they were African American, the media will justify it.
 You realize that a citizenry that is upset with a valid injustice that has been happening for decades does not lay the blame of people that are recognizing it.   An attack that is created by that valid injustice does not create a situation where the injustice is no longer valid.

 

Just as all law enforcement officers and those that enter the police force are not PIGS.  But PIGS are created by a corrupt system.  

 

Unlike you, I'm not denouncing an entire population.  I'm actually seperating out the PIGS from the system that creates them and the officers that actually do thier job.

 

Whereas, as per the usual for you, you create an entire straw man population that you can denounce.  

 

YUGE difference, friend.

Quote:2 cops shot in Dallas right now. I guess if they were African American, the media will justify it.
 

You and FBT should get a room on International Drive...
Quote:2 cops shot in Dallas right now. I guess if they were African American, the media will justify it.
 

You're quite the media expert, aren't you? Are they all members of the same club?

 

When did this conspiracy/paranoia become so evident to you?
Quote:I don't know.  I'd like to wait for all the evidence to be laid out.  Isn't that your standard defense for whenever a PIG murders a citizen?


Pretty sure someone taking an elevated position with a rifle and opening fire on a large crowd but somehow managing to hit only two targets who just happened to be cops tells the tale, so you should be celebrating. Two of your pigs have paid the price you demand.
Quote: You realize that a citizenry that is upset with a valid injustice that has been happening for decades does not lay the blame of people that are recognizing it.   An attack that is created by that valid injustice does not create a situation where the injustice is no longer valid.



 
Just as all law enforcement officers and those that enter the police force are not PIGS.  But PIGS are created by a corrupt system.  



 
Unlike you, I'm not denouncing an entire population.  I'm actually seperating out the PIGS from the system that creates them and the officers that actually do thier job.



 
Whereas, as per the usual for you, you create an entire straw man population that you can denounce.  



 
YUGE difference, friend.


So shooting those cops is valid justice? Just making sure we are clear here.

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Quote:So shooting those cops is valid justice? Just making sure we are clear here.


This is more of an example of twisting words...
Quote:You're quite the media expert, aren't you? Are they all members of the same club?


When did this conspiracy/paranoia become so evident to you?


Its actually quite obvious. For the past few years, any African American killed by a police officer was portrayed as an Angel. Meanwhile failing to mention there 6 page rap sheet, not saying thats a reason to be killed but just the media pushing there agenda.
Quote:Its actually quite obvious. For the past few years, any African American killed by a police officer was portrayed as an Angel. Meanwhile failing to mention there 6 page rap sheet, not saying thats a reason to be killed but just the media pushing there agenda.
 

So Huffington and Ailes are the same?

 

When you throw around terms like "the media" you make it clear you have no point, just an agenda. That is, nothing to be taken too seriously.
One officer is dead. Crazy.
2 snipers were targeting police officers.
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