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Quote:If the Bills go ahead and release Cassel, the Jaguars absolutely have to jump on him immediately.
Cassel has zero knowledge of the system and zero reps with anyone on this offense. Additionally, I'm not even sure that he's all that much better than Henne. The Matt Cassel who led New England to 11-5 in Tom Brady's offense was playing with far greater talent around him, and he had experience in the scheme.
Plugging him in as the top backup a week before the season starts and releasing Henne is basically throwing the season should anything happen to Bortles. If you're going to sign Cassel then release Henne a few weeks into the season, what's the point? You've already guaranteed Henne's salary for the year, and you've guaranteed Cassel's, too. Henne sucks, I get it, and I don't disagree, but your fixation on replacing him right now with whatever big-name, medium-name, little-name or no-name quarterback happens to be available is kind of pathetic. Chad Henne is the best we're going to get in 2015. Hopefully that changes in 2016, but the time for changing backup quarterbacks is in March or April, not September 2nd.
Quote:No one is going to argue (realistically that is) that Henne would ever lead us to a championship. His record just doesn't support that type of optimism in him. Are there better backups out there? Almost certainly, but that doesn't negate what Henne does bring to the table; he knows the system and he is a functional quarterback. He is what he is. He's not a Ferrari... but more like a well used pickup truck. It's undoubtedly true that there are better backups on other teams out there... but there are also worse one's too.
Knowing there are even worse backups than Henne means jack squat to me. Henne is among the worst, and he's not about to win games should he take over. He's not a well used pickup...he's more like a hearse. Cassel has shown he can learn different systems quickly. It's not like Henne knowing the system makes him any good.
Quote:Cassel has zero knowledge of the system and zero reps with anyone on this offense. Additionally, I'm not even sure that he's all that much better than Henne. The Matt Cassel who led New England to 11-5 in Tom Brady's offense was playing with far greater talent around him, and he had experience in the scheme.
Plugging him in as the top backup a week before the season starts and releasing Henne is basically throwing the season should anything happen to Bortles. If you're going to sign Cassel then release Henne a few weeks into the season, what's the point? You've already guaranteed Henne's salary for the year, and you've guaranteed Cassel's, too. Henne sucks, I get it, and I don't disagree, but your fixation on replacing him right now with whatever big-name, medium-name, little-name or no-name quarterback happens to be available is kind of pathetic. Chad Henne is the best we're going to get in 2015. Hopefully that changes in 2016, but the time for changing backup quarterbacks is in March or April, not September 2nd.
I wasn't talking about guaranteeing Henne's roster by keeping him on the roster week one. I'm talking about cutting Henne before the season starts and replacing him with Cassel. I'd rather take my chances with Cassel and his limited experience here than wtih Henne and all his experience. Matt Cassel is simply that much better.
Quote:I wasn't talking about guaranteeing Henne's roster by keeping him on the roster week one. I'm talking about cutting Henne before the season starts and replacing him with Cassel. I'd rather take my chances with Cassel and his limited experience here than wtih Henne and all his experience. Matt Cassel is simply that much better.
We're gonna have to disagree on that one. Cassel is better than Henne, I'll give you that, but if Bortles goes down, I'd rather have a below-mediocre quarterback that knows the system than a mediocre quarterback that doesn't in the game. If this were July, I'd be right there with you that Cassel needs to be investigated thoroughly, but it's September 2nd. If Bortles goes down for the season on the first snap on September 13th, Cassel with 10 days in the system would make us wish that we had Henne back.
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Quote:We're gonna have to disagree on that one. Cassel is better than Henne, I'll give you that, but if Bortles goes down, I'd rather have a below-mediocre quarterback that knows the system than a mediocre quarterback that doesn't in the game. If this were July, I'd be right there with you that Cassel needs to be investigated thoroughly, but it's September 2nd. If Bortles goes down for the season on the first snap on September 13th, Cassel with 10 days in the system would make us wish that we had Henne back.
Even if it's 10 days I'd rather have Cassel, but chances are it's much longer by the time we actually need him. By then Cassel will have had time to learn the system. If we don't have him and need him in say November, for starters there's virtually no chance he'd be available, and if he is you'd be bringing him in fresh without knowing the system and you'd have that same issue then.
I'm pretty sure at this point, Chenne's job consist of early morning tic-tac-toe and chinese checkers with Fowler, Marks, JT, and now Branch. He keeps their morale up with banana smoothies and makes sure Bortles' confidence is at an all time high, by saying something along the lines of " I've been in this league for 8 years now and I'm not even a quarter as good as you. " After taking care of his young chicks, the team mom "Henne" goes back home to play Madden. He then trades Bortles to the Texans and places himself as the starter for the Jags. Still he can't find success in the video game, because his stats are too hennefied and he finds his virtual self unable to complete a pass of more than 10 yards down the field. He hears the crowd screaming "Booo! We want Bortles!" and its triggering his PTSD that he developed from last years Colts game.
He instantly has a burning hatred for the Jaguars organization and fan-base. He wants them to suffer and pay for what they've done. He's thinking about skipping the banana smoothies and putting guacamole in it instead, and telling Bortles " you suck! ", but then suddenly it hits him... He has already caused enough agony and depression for the Jaguars. So he calms down and turns on the recorded Lions game, only to skip forward to his goaline drive. He starts it in slow-motion and watches the play where he dropped the ball on purpose and laughs for hours. He then gets on the computer to check out the Jags message board, and surprisingly sees a Chad Henne thread. "Oh no! " He shouts, "Could this be it? Are they on to me?" He quickly opens it and is shocked at Yo Boy's comments and how intelligent his analysis is. He continues to read and behold, he's surprised the majority of posters are Henne supporters/Apologist and actually think he's good! He laughs until he can no longer breathe, and eventually says "Those fools, they've seen dangerous levels of suck for a decade now! And they are still blind to it?! He laughs once more and then looks over to his money pool that consist of $4-million. He smiles and turns to his Jaguars dart board (with limited edition flaming tack darts) and nails us right in the bulls-eye. Henne wins again.
Fowler seems like a sharp kid... I bet he wins at chinese checkers most of the time.
Much like his football game, Henne is incapable of stringing together three solid games of Chinese Checkers in a row.
Cassel was able to go 10-5 in 2010 and take the Chiefs to the playoffs too, New England wasn't the only place he had some success.
Quote:Even if it's 10 days I'd rather have Cassel, but chances are it's much longer by the time we actually need him. By then Cassel will have had time to learn the system. If we don't have him and need him in say November, for starters there's virtually no chance he'd be available, and if he is you'd be bringing him in fresh without knowing the system and you'd have that same issue then.
I think you're dramatically overestimating how good Cassel is.
Have we evolved into the "our backup can beat up your backup" status?
Asking for a friend.
Quote:Have we evolved into the "our backup can beat up your backup" status?
Asking for a friend.
Our backup can play more like a backup against your backup. Use that line, it'll mess with him.
Quote:I think you're dramatically overestimating how good Cassel is.
Not when you compare him to Henne.
Quote:Not when you compare him to Henne.
The Jaguars are well-off enough cap wise that I would be pretty happy with a Bortles/Henne/Cassel depth chart at QB, but I doubt that Caldwell keeps three on his active roster, and even though Cassel is better than Henne (although by how much at this point is anyone's guess), Henne has experience in the system and could step in and run it if Bortles goes down.
Cassel does not and, imo, could not until learning it.
If they land Cassel, I don't recommend guaranteeing Henne's $2 mil salary by keeping him week one. If you want to keep him then cut him, and sign him week two. I'd be shocked if any other team were to sign Henne.
People really don't realize how many teams would try to go after Henne. He is a solid back-up.
Quote:People really don't realize how many teams would try to go after Henne. He is a solid back-up.
I wouldn't go so far as to call Henne solid, but he would be signed very quickly after we released him.
Quote:I wouldn't go so far as to call Henne solid, but he would be signed very quickly after we released him.
We don't need Henne- let someone else have him...This fanbase that is so used to mediocrity, it's crazy.
We need a backup that can develop and win games. Henne is not that guy.
Green Bay understands this concept. Hard to believe at one point they had, Favre, Brunell, and Warner on their roster as the 1,2, and 3. Then they got Aaron Rodgers, but, hey, let's all be content with Henne who will actually Lose games for us AND offers no upside or hope for development....Henne needs to go, and I don't care who he's replaced with.
Quote:Have we evolved into the "our backup can beat up your backup" status?
Asking for a friend.
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Quote:We don't need Henne- let someone else have him...This fanbase that is so used to mediocrity, it's crazy.
We need a backup that can develop and win games. Henne is not that guy.
Green Bay understands this concept. Hard to believe at one point they had, Favre, Brunell, and Warner on their roster as the 1,2, and 3. Then they got Aaron Rodgers, but, hey, let's all be content with Henne who will actually Lose games for us AND offers no upside or hope for development....Henne needs to go, and I don't care who he's replaced with.
The Packers backup right now is Scott Tolzein. A guy who started two regular season games in 2013. He had 1 TD and 5 INTs. So what concept do they understand exactly?
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