Quote:It was another GOP driven hysteria that turned out to be a load of dung. It's been proven they freaked out over nothing and so have dropped it by the way side to never speak of it again.
It's annoying that no one is respectable enough to come in here and admit the hysteria was blown out of proportion.
Quote:It's annoying that no one is respectable enough to come in here and admit the hysteria was blown out of proportion.
Quote:Where you at Eric!
You must be referring to me not being convinced they know everything about the strain that broke out in Africa and Obama brought over here.
No I don't think its outrageous to be concerned when a virus with that high of a mortality rate is being brought back here to be studied.
They knew that it was a contact / droplet precaution. You seriously REFUSE to concede anything. You must be a very insecure person to have to convince yourself that you're never wrong.
Quote:They knew that it was a contact / droplet precaution. You seriously REFUSE to concede anything. You must be a very insecure person to have to convince yourself that you're never wrong.
How insecure does it make someone to demand to be told they were right? Seems a little needy to me.
Quote:They knew that it was a contact / droplet precaution. You seriously REFUSE to concede anything. You must be a very insecure person to have to convince yourself that you're never wrong.
I've concede points several times on this subject i still have concerns the whole story has not been told.
And based on the initial problems I do believe this strain or version of the virus was and is more contagious then they initially thought.
I know that just boils your blood but oh well.....
Quote:You must be referring to me not being convinced they know everything about the strain that broke out in Africa and Obama brought over here.
No I don't think its outrageous to be concerned when a virus with that high of a mortality rate is being brought back here to be studied.
Fear mongering and concern are two different things.
Quote:Fear mongering and concern are two different things.
I don't really know that it was fear mongering what with all the other infectious diseases we are seeing show up right now. Measles at Disneyland, Pertussis in several states, Mumps in the NHL, etc. are signs that we need to be mindful of our public health. The Ebola event needed to be taken very seriously because the outcome could've been horrific had we lost control of it.
Quote:Fear mongering and concern are two different things.
How have I fear mongered?
Quote:I don't really know that it was fear mongering what with all the other infectious diseases we are seeing show up right now. Measles at Disneyland, Pertussis in several states, Mumps in the NHL, etc. are signs that we need to be mindful of our public health. The Ebola event needed to be taken very seriously because the outcome could've been horrific had we lost control of it.
Again, big difference between taking something seriously and what was being done in the media and a lot of things I heard from the right.
Quote:I don't really know that it was fear mongering what with all the other infectious diseases we are seeing show up right now. Measles at Disneyland, Pertussis in several states, Mumps in the NHL, etc. are signs that we need to be mindful of our public health. The Ebola event needed to be taken very seriously because the outcome could've been horrific had we lost control of it.
I don't know much about these instances but could they be related to the anti-vaxer movement?
Quote:How have I fear mongered?
I don't think you did. I do think you truly believe their is a conspiracy in place (not telling us everything) but that stems from your distrust of government in power right now and to a lesser extent in general.
The big fear monger is currently banned and others just do fly by insults and fearmongering similar to their overlords in the media.
Quote:I don't think you did. I do think you truly believe their is a conspiracy in place (not telling us everything) but that stems from your distrust of government in power right now and to a lesser extent in general.
The big fear monger is currently banned and others just do fly by insults and fearmongering similar to their overlords in the media.
No, I don't think eric was on that level, but I do think he overstated how significant of a risk it was and also was wrong about isolation.
Quote:No, I don't think eric was on that level, but I do think he overstated how significant of a risk it was and also was wrong about isolation.
I'm glad Obama got it under control. That's how it works if he brought it here right? j/k :teehee:
Quote:No, I don't think eric was on that level, but I do think he overstated how significant of a risk it was and also was wrong about isolation.
I don't have a problem saying the risk wasn't as bad as many including myself feared. I still prefer isolation and think it's the safest route.
Quote:I'm glad Obama got it under control. That's how it works if he brought it here right? j/k :teehee:
Indeed Obama and his administration have done a sufficient job containing any Ebola outbreak.
Quote:I don't have a problem saying the risk wasn't as bad as many including myself feared. I still prefer isolation and think it's the safest route.
Indeed Obama and his administration have done a sufficient job containing any Ebola outbreak.
While I agree with trying to minimize risk, what's the point having one of, if not the best, disease control centers in the world if it's not used at the bare minimum to help our own citizens? Let alone other countries?
Quote:While I agree with trying to minimize risk, what's the point having one of, if not the best, disease control centers in the world if it's not used at the bare minimum to help our own citizens? Let alone other countries?
My concern was and still is with bringing this strain of Ebola back was the reality that so many health care workers where contracting it. That to me suggested they hadn't grasped either how it was being passed to these people trained to treat the disease and avoid infection or it was way more contagious then they where letting on.
In the past these outbreaks have always been studied and treated in the host nation or area of the break out. Bringing the virus here was risky but thankfully sufficient precautions where taken and all seems ok. I haven't heard however how it's going in Africa the news seems to have just dropped it over night.
Quote:My concern was and still is with bringing this strain of Ebola back was the reality that so many health care workers where contracting it. That to me suggested they hadn't grasped either how it was being passed to these people trained to treat the disease and avoid infection or it was way more contagious then they where letting on.
In the past these outbreaks have always been studied and treated in the host nation or area of the break out. Bringing the virus here was risky but thankfully sufficient precautions where taken and all seems ok. I haven't heard however how it's going in Africa the news seems to have just dropped it over night.
Prez commented on that in the SotU that it has been contained for the most part. From what I understand it's still bad in some areas due to the customs of dealing with the deceased. It's going to be a long struggle in those areas due to ingrained customs.
Quote:I don't know much about these instances but could they be related to the anti-vaxer movement?
That does appear to the be the case with the Measles issue in California. Since the MMR vaccine is the primary target of the Anti-Vaxxers it does expose a significant portion of the domestic population to the Measles, Mumps and Rubella. The Disney outbreak could simply be an international tourist who brought it with them, much like the Ebola issue, but it's up to 70 confirmed cases now including some employees.
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20150122...0c0ac.html
Quote:That does appear to the be the case with the Measles issue in California. Since the MMR vaccine is the primary target of the Anti-Vaxxers it does expose a significant portion of the domestic population to the Measles, Mumps and Rubella. The Disney outbreak could simply be an international tourist who brought it with them, much like the Ebola issue, but it's up to 70 confirmed cases now including some employees.
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20150122...0c0ac.html
Anti-vaxers ought be tried for child abuse, IMO