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Quote:He's a bust that should be traded while he still has value. Yada Yada

 

And he's a bigger, stronger Blaine Gabbert...

I wonder will Bortles hold himself accountable for the last INT?

 

He should have never changed the play being they were deep in their own territory. 

Quote:And he's a bigger, stronger Blaine Gabbert...

 

Don't forget he's more mobile...

Almost looks

 

Quote:I wonder will Bortles hold himself accountable for the last INT?

 

He should have never changed the play being they were deep in their own territory. 

 

Almost looks like some of the blame should be on Hurns on that play...

Quote:There are fairly amount of wait and see types which I respect. Others want to blame everyone else and give Blake's play a pass. Sorry but I won't the ints are a problem. Hopefully its not a trend that continue's. 

 

In the game day threads I was pretty critical of BB5 as well...

 

He's slightly inaccurate and has small issues with his touch on certain passes...  There're no doubt about that.

 

But I'm not going too worried about it, yet...

 

To me, I actually finally saw that the O-Line is really really weak.  BB5 stopped trusting them to make a clean pocket.  He started looking down for the first time...  Which I don't fault him for.

 

There were way too many times when the pass protection was lacking and he had to make a decision faster than he wanted too.  That in turn created a faster mental clock on plays when he actually did have time.

 

The play calling was actually OK today, in my opinion.  It's just a lack of real trust between the QB and the O-Line... Which unfortunately I don't think will change any time soon...

Quote:I wonder will Bortles hold himself accountable for the last INT?

 

He should have never changed the play being they were deep in their own territory. 

 

I agree with this for the most part.  He knew exactly where he wanted to go with that pass pre-snap.  

 

Whether he claims it in a press conference is irrelevant.  

 

The coaches and BB5 should really study that play and learn from it moving forward.

 

There was a stack of CBs and an LB.  One CB was showing blitz and came in, with BB5 not recognizing it.  It was a rookie mistake...  He should be able to learn from it.

Quote:Don't forget he's more mobile...

 

Bigger, stronger, more mobile than Gabbert doesn't = Gabbert... 

Drafting either Jameis or Mariota. Starting all over again. Sucks.

Quote:Almost looks

 

 

Almost looks like some of the blame should be on Hurns on that play...

 

Hurns should have finished the route, but the ball should have never been thrown in the first place.

Its hilarious reading the "it was the receiver's fault" excuses after every INT.

Quote:Drafting either Jameis or Mariota. Starting all over again. Sucks.

 

LOL, really?  

 

No way.  BB5 is gonna be a good one.  I didn't see anything this game to think we don't have our franchise QB

Quote:In the game day threads I was pretty critical of BB5 as well...

 

He's slightly inaccurate and has small issues with his touch on certain passes...  There're no doubt about that.

 

But I'm not going too worried about it, yet...

 

To me, I actually finally saw that the O-Line is really really weak.  BB5 stopped trusting them to make a clean pocket.  He started looking down for the first time...  Which I don't fault him for.

 

There were way too many times when the pass protection was lacking and he had to make a decision faster than he wanted too.  That in turn created a faster mental clock on plays when he actually did have time.

 

The play calling was actually OK today, in my opinion.  It's just a lack of real trust between the QB and the O-Line... Which unfortunately I don't think will change any time soon...

 

Points well made. He has seemed to regress in all phases. He's reverting to old habits and the coaches better get a hold of it before he gets worse. Every game he gets away with a couple of would be ints. Case in point the first series of the game. I noticed it in the preseason and told my buddy about it, but he wanted to over look it because he was mesmerized by his good plays. But for some reason the bad throws stuck with me. 

Quote:Its hilarious reading the "it was the receiver's fault" excuses after every INT.

 

It's also hilarious to think that just because a rookie throws some bonehead throws will become a bust is equally so

Quote:I agree with this for the most part.  He knew exactly where he wanted to go with that pass pre-snap.  

 

Whether he claims it in a press conference is irrelevant.  

 

The coaches and BB5 should really study that play and learn from it moving forward.

 

There was a stack of CBs and an LB.  One CB was showing blitz and came in, with BB5 not recognizing it.  It was a rookie mistake...  He should be able to learn from it.

 

I dont care whether he holds himself accountable in a press conference, I care if he holds himself accountable to his teammates on the sidelines.

 

It would be curious to know what Bortles's mindset was from pre-snap to making the throw.

Quote:It's also hilarious to think that just because a rookie throws some bonehead throws will become a bust is equally so

If Bortles turns out to be a bust, it will be because of the receivers. BB is not responsible for any wrong doings.

Quote:Bigger, stronger, more mobile than Gabbert doesn't = Gabbert... 

 

6 int's, 2 pick 6's 1 net TD = Blake Bortles. 

Quote:It's also hilarious to think that just because a rookie throws some bonehead throws will become a bust is equally so

 

No one has claimed he's a bust so stop saying that. 

Quote:Points well made. He has seemed to regress in all phases. He's reverting to old habits and the coaches better get a hold of it before he gets worse. Every game he gets away with a couple of would be ints. Case in point the first series of the game. I noticed it in the preseason and told my buddy about it, but he wanted to over look it because he was mesmerized by his good plays. But for some reason the bad throws stuck with me. 

 

And your point is also well made...

 

I really don't want to get too critical of the coaching staff today, especially since I'm pretty much the loudest crier of Fish as an OC...

 

But I just think the kid will get these things figured out.

 

From watching other young QB's he's not "OFF" on his throws.  He's just not quite as precise as you'd want him to be.  That's a big deal.

 

As for his INTs, it just seems like he's not yet fully figured out NFL secondaries.  Which is to be expected.  I think if Fish is truelly a great OC, he's gonna get BB5 the help he needs to learn what he's missing at this point in his career.

 

I'm going to wait until December before I start really thinking we need to fire the OC... At this point, I thought the offense did an OK job on all aspects that can be corrected.

 

I go back to the O-Line as the cause of failure for this game.  They just can't be trusted.  And that ain't getting fixed any time soon

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To me, I actually finally saw that the O-Line is really really weak.  BB5 stopped trusting them to make a clean pocket.  He started looking down for the first time...  Which I don't fault him for.

 

There were way too many times when the pass protection was lacking and he had to make a decision faster than he wanted too.  That in turn created a faster mental clock on plays when he actually did have time.

 

Absolute single worst case scenario.

Quote:It's also hilarious to think that just because a rookie throws some bonehead throws will become a bust is equally so

 

Manning's 28 INT's his rookie season begs to differ...

 

 

 

err.. wait..