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Quote:Soccer fans are unreasonably defensive.


Unreasonably? This is a thread on the SOCCER World Cup, yet soccer is constantly being berated by those who have no willingness to attempt to understand the sport, instead just go about attacking it branding it boring etc.


I'm a Brit who grew up playing & loving soccer, and even played at a relatively high level, with players who have gone on to be pro, even one who has played & scored for England in this world cup. But I love and prefer football. I would rather watch football, and often have to defend football here against soccer fans.


"why do they keep stopping?", "why are so many of them fat?", "he ran 2 yards and they're celebrating?" "This is boring".


If you don't understand something and don't want to, then of course you'll find it boring.


If you watch MMA and don't understand or appreciate the technical aspects, then the majority of the time you'll just see two guys rolling around on the mat hugging
I'm kind of glad we finished second in the group because being on this half of the bracket gives us an extra day of rest. 

Quote:Not in one overtime though.  Nobody switches sides in football, hockey, or basketball OT.
True, I don't see why there'd be an issue with it though.
Quote:Soccer fans are unreasonably defensive.
As are the folks who bash it.
Quote:Mexico has not been good leading up to the WC. However, they got lucky to get in, and since have been playing very inspired.

Yes, some of their fans are ludicrous. But that doesn't take away from how they're performing right now.


I don't think the Dutch will throttle them. I think it'll be very close, especially if Ochoa keeps up his stellar keeping.


NED are likely to win. But I wouldn't be shocked if Mexico pulled it off.


I heard an analyst say that Mexico hasn't been to the Quarterfinals since the '80s? idk exactly when.

Could this be the year they break that streak?
 


I had to look that up because it just didn't sound right, but it is. 1986 in the quarters.
Quote:I had to look that up because it just didn't sound right, but it is. 1986 in the quarters.
1986. Thanks Trav.

That's a long time.

Mexico did win the Gold Medal defeating Brazil in the last Olympics. But, that's not WC.


I remembered 2002 the US faced and defeated Mexico to advance into quarters.
Quote:1986. Thanks Trav.

That's a long time.

Mexico did win the Gold Medal defeating Brazil in the last Olympics. But, that's not WC.


I remembered 2002 the US faced and defeated Mexico to advance into quarters.
I remember that, another Dos a Cero !
Quote:As are the folks who bash it.
 

It is really strange how some people quite frankly go out of their way to bash soccer.
Quote:It is really strange how some people quite frankly go out of their way to bash soccer.
I really do think it stems from the fact that soccer in this country has grown so much the last 5-10 years and they can't stand it. No matter how much they bash it, that won't change. Per game attendance in the MLS is higher then the NBA, the MLS just expanded again and the league is really doing well. The popularity is only rising.

 

If you think soccer is boring, I'd suggest giving a couple MLS games a watch. Portland-Seattle (First and foremost), San Jose-LA, NY-DC United, Houston-FC Dallas to name a few.
Quote:It is really strange how some people quite frankly go out of their way to bash soccer.
People do the same bashing American football. Either way it bothers me because I love both sports. 
Quote:I really do think it stems from the fact that soccer in this country has grown so much the last 5-10 years and they can't stand it. No matter how much they bash it, that won't change. Per game attendance in the MLS is higher then the NBA, the MLS just expanded again and the league is really doing well. The popularity is only rising.

 

If you think soccer is boring, I'd suggest giving a couple MLS games a watch. Portland-Seattle (First and foremost), San Jose-LA, NY-DC United, Houston-FC Dallas to name a few.
 

And I think alot of people view it as not an "American" sport. But it's also one of those things where it's mostly the old guard bashing it. People 40 and under are the ones driving it's popularity.

 

I think it's also really cool that Jacksonville has emerged as one of the bigger soccer markets.
Quote:It is really strange how some people quite frankly go out of their way to bash soccer.
 

It really is amazing. I think hockey sucks, but I don't go out of my way to bash the sport and people who like it.
Quote:Unreasonably? This is a thread on the SOCCER World Cup, yet soccer is constantly being berated by those who have no willingness to attempt to understand the sport, instead just go about attacking it branding it boring etc.


I'm a Brit who grew up playing & loving soccer, and even played at a relatively high level, with players who have gone on to be pro, even one who has played & scored for England in this world cup. But I love and prefer football. I would rather watch football, and often have to defend football here against soccer fans.


"why do they keep stopping?", "why are so many of them fat?", "he ran 2 yards and they're celebrating?" "This is boring".


If you don't understand something and don't want to, then of course you'll find it boring.


If you watch MMA and don't understand or appreciate the technical aspects, then the majority of the time you'll just see two guys rolling around on the mat hugging
well put.. i like how u use "soccer" too.. i know that something that gets the brits panties in a wad..."they stole our name and ruined our game"blah blah blah blah... i think both sports have closed minded individuals who have never watched the other sport but still feel the need to say something.... i visited the fulham board the other day and about halfway through the first thread i saw about the jaguars, thats exactly what happen... some d bag said "oh yeah football, u mean that sport that takes 4 hours with 14 min of action", at which point a crew of d bag's chimed in.... morons will be morons i guess.... i played both sports as a kid and love them both so it sucks to see such a rift in the fan bases, but ive gotten use to it.
We're 1-1-1.  Scored 4 goals.  Gave up 4 goals.   I felt terrible when we tied on Sunday but felt great after we lost yesterday.  

 

I'm so confused.

Quote:We're 1-1-1. Scored 4 goals. Gave up 4 goals. I felt terrible when we tied on Sunday but felt great after we lost yesterday.


I'm so confused.


I'm not surprised a round robin scoring system is too sophisticated for The Tropical Depression to understand.
Quote:Unreasonably? This is a thread on the SOCCER World Cup, yet soccer is constantly being berated by those who have no willingness to attempt to understand the sport, instead just go about attacking it branding it boring etc.


I'm a Brit who grew up playing & loving soccer, and even played at a relatively high level, with players who have gone on to be pro, even one who has played & scored for England in this world cup. But I love and prefer football. I would rather watch football, and often have to defend football here against soccer fans.


"why do they keep stopping?", "why are so many of them fat?", "he ran 2 yards and they're celebrating?" "This is boring".


If you don't understand something and don't want to, then of course you'll find it boring.


If you watch MMA and don't understand or appreciate the technical aspects, then the majority of the time you'll just see two guys rolling around on the mat hugging
 

You kind of just made my point. All I stated was "soccer fans are unreasonably defensive about soccer". I didn't even say anything bad about your beloved sport, as I am very much enjoying the World Cup. However, the little I said was enough to illicit a "from the bottom of your broken heart" response. Chill out and quit being so defensive.

 

 

Like TMD said, the problem is you guys are so insistent on talking up your sport that you refuse to acknowledge any possible shortcomings. If I mentioned how lame the flopping has been, I'm sure it would illicit a "they fake injuries in all sports!!" response. If I mentioned that I think their celebrations are extreme, it would probably illicit a "you just don't understand the emotions!!" response.

 

I have no problem with talking about stupid NFL rules (like where teams kick from now), stupid MLB traditions (like coaches stalling the game by visiting the mound to allow their relief pitcher to warm up), or stupid NBA divas. For some reason, though, soccer fanboys get unreasonably defensive over any and all criticism of the game.
Quote:You kind of just made my point. All I stated was "soccer fans are unreasonably defensive about soccer". I didn't even say anything bad about your beloved sport, as I am very much enjoying the World Cup. However, the little I said was enough to illicit a "from the bottom of your broken heart" response. Chill out and quit being so defensive.



Like TMD said, the problem is you guys are so insistent on talking up your sport that you refuse to acknowledge any possible shortcomings. If I mentioned how lame the flopping has been, I'm sure it would illicit a "they fake injuries in all sports!!" response. If I mentioned that I think their celebrations are extreme, it would probably illicit a "you just don't understand the emotions!!" response.


I have no problem with talking about stupid NFL rules (like where teams kick from now), stupid MLB traditions (like coaches stalling the game by visiting the mound to allow their relief pitcher to warm up), or stupid NBA divas. For some reason, though, soccer fanboys get unreasonably defensive over any and all criticism of the game.


Ok.
Quote:And I think alot of people view it as not an "American" sport. But it's also one of those things where it's mostly the old guard bashing it. People 40 and under are the ones driving it's popularity.


I think that seems to be an undertone in most of the articles and commentary I have seen. Soccer is not an American sport like baseball!! They sort of leave out that neither are golf or basketball.


I dont care if people dislike soccer. I laugh when so many (mostly older white) people feel the need to constantly remind us that they don't care about soccer.
Quote:You kind of just made my point. All I stated was "soccer fans are unreasonably defensive about soccer". I didn't even say anything bad about your beloved sport, as I am very much enjoying the World Cup. However, the little I said was enough to illicit a "from the bottom of your broken heart" response. Chill out and quit being so defensive.

 

 

Like TMD said, the problem is you guys are so insistent on talking up your sport that you refuse to acknowledge any possible shortcomings. If I mentioned how lame the flopping has been, I'm sure it would illicit a "they fake injuries in all sports!!" response. If I mentioned that I think their celebrations are extreme, it would probably illicit a "you just don't understand the emotions!!" response.

 

I have no problem with talking about stupid NFL rules (like where teams kick from now), stupid MLB traditions (like coaches stalling the game by visiting the mound to allow their relief pitcher to warm up), or stupid NBA divas. For some reason, though, soccer fanboys get unreasonably defensive over any and all criticism of the game.
People get defensive when attacked. It is reasonable for fans to be defensive when they are attacked, not unreasonable.
Right.


So some people don't understand (or simply don't like soccer). Other people disagree with them and are told they are "unreasonably defensive".


I think we've just about covered that one..


Can we now get back to talking about the World Cup again ?


Predictions.. Who will be our quarter finalists ?


I'll go for..


Brazil, Colombia, Netherlands, Greece, France, Germany Argentina and USA