Quote:I clicked on your post hoping for a link.
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yeah idk how that happened. whenever i post from my phone it does whatever it wants.
anyway, good last drive for jameis, overall pretty crappy game. if you were to watch that game and watch louisville vs miami who are you gonna say is the better qb? supposed to play your best in the biggest games. thats what teddy does. jameis almost cost them the game.
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You assert some Bridgewater proponents are advancing some agenda.
If it is an agenda other than doing what they think is best for the Jaguars, what is it?
Nothing more sinsiter than just wanting what THEY feel is best for the Jags.
Well, it was that way at first. Once they got their hero, it was no looking back. I mean, it's one thing to say the man's a good QB prospect - which he is - and another thing to want the team to perform so badly that they would be assured first shot at his selection. There's just something really selfish about it, and it reminds me of the Tebowites a couple years back. They are so hell-bent on being proven right that they don't care what happens to the team in the process. There just doesn't seem to be any inkling to them that they could be wrong. It's just kinda like watching Skip Bayless or listening to Angry Know-it-All Agenda-Driven radio talk show host.
Just put the blinders on, get your "Teddy or bust" sig or avatar, and pound away for the next ten months. Sound familiar to the way business has been conducted here in past seasons?
This team has survived the blackouts of 2009. I'm not sure it could survive an 0-16 season. At the end of it all, Teddy might still not live up to his draft day rank, and we all know that's happened before on this team. I'm not afraid of drafting Bridgewater, but I want to see ALL the options, and use ALL the data before the team drafts.
Quote:Nothing more sinsiter than just wanting what THEY feel is best for the Jags.
Well, it was that way at first. Once they got their hero, it was no looking back. I mean, it's one thing to say the man's a good QB prospect - which he is - and another thing to want the team to perform so badly that they would be assured first shot at his selection. There's just something really selfish about it, and it reminds me of the Tebowites a couple years back. They are so hell-bent on being proven right that they don't care what happens to the team in the process. There just doesn't seem to be any inkling to them that they could be wrong. It's just kinda like watching Skip Bayless or listening to Angry Know-it-All Agenda-Driven radio talk show host.
Just put the blinders on, get your "Teddy or bust" sig or avatar, and pound away for the next ten months. Sound familiar to the way business has been conducted here in past seasons?
This team has survived the blackouts of 2009. I'm not sure it could survive an 0-16 season. At the end of it all, Teddy might still not live up to his draft day rank, and we all know that's happened before on this team. I'm not afraid of drafting Bridgewater, but I want to see ALL the options, and use ALL the data before the team drafts.
Which is more selfish? Wanting two-three wins in a non-playoff season just so you can be "satisfied" for those two weeks as a season ticket holder? Or feeling the pain this season, no matter how difficult it may be so that the team will have long-term viability?
This is far from the Tebow-drive, whose supporters primarily cared for Tebow and could care less what happened to the Jaguars. They just wanted their hero, regardless of what people say his weaknesses are. However, those who want Bridgewater want him in Jacksonville because we DO care for the long-term and sustainable success of this franchise. We believe that getting Bridgewater affords Jacksonville of the best possible chance of finding that success. Is it the only chance? Of course, not. History has shown us that there are many different ways to win in the NFL. But the best, surest, and easiest way to do so is to hit a homerun with your QB. That we also do so while not giving our division rival a chance at him (like we did Luck) even adds fuel to that fire.
As I said in a prior post regarding Bridgewater's "hype" as you call it...I frequent other boards, and his "hype" has been consistent.
When Jags and Bucs were both winless, fans of both those teams wanted Bridgewater. When the Bucs started to win and it looked like Houston/Jags were candidates for #1, then Texans fans and Jaguars fans wanted Bridgewater. Now that there are rumors that the Texans MIGHT be eyeing Bortles with the #1, even St. Louis fans are getting in the mix of wanting Bridgewater (and they are in a far better shape at the QB position than either the Jaguars or the Texans).
It's not even just the fans of the teams who have a shot at Bridgewater who have been vocal. I've seen Tennessee fans comment at the thought of having to deal with Luck and Bridgewater in the same division (either with Jags or with Texans), and I've seen fans of other teams comment about Bridgewater throwing to Austin and Bailey in St. Louis.
We want Teddy here because we think he's really good...and that he can change this franchise around for the better.
This franchise can survive an 0-16 season if it turns it around after that led by a franchise QB (which obviously many feel Bridgewater is). It cannot, however...continue to hover in the range of 4 to 8 (occassional 9 and 10) win seasons as a good team is held back by sub-par QB play. The 1st scenario would put us in the realm of the Colts after getting Manning, and now it appears after getting Luck. The 2nd scenario would put us in the shoes of the Jaguars circa 2007.
What if the Jaguars draft went like this
1st round pick - Clowney, DE
2nd round pick - Dion Bailey, S, USC
3rd round pick - Bryan Stork, C, Florida
4th round pick - Tre Jackson, G Florida
5th round pick - James Gayle, Leo, VT
6th round pick - Aaron Murray, QB, Georgia
7th round pick was traded to move up
Quote:What if the Jaguars draft went like this
1st round pick - Clowney, DE
2nd round pick - Dion Bailey, S, USC
3rd round pick - Bryan Stork, C, Florida
4th round pick - Tre Jackson, G Florida
5th round pick - James Gayle, Leo, VT
6th round pick - Aaron Murray, QB, Georgia
7th round pick was traded to move up
We have 2 4th rounders
and 3 5th rounders.
You got some more picks to make!
I just want whoever is the best QB and is the franchise player. There are three prospects in this draft, who i believe, can start RIGHT AWAY, and POTENTIALLY, can be franchise QB. Teddy Bridgewater, Johnny Manziel and Blake Bortles. There are others as well but may need to sit or something for a few seasons to be groomed. Just because Teddy is not Luck type prospect, does not mean he is not going to be a good player as well as not deserving the number 1 selection. He's been rated that by personnel and scouts since day 1. He's very smart, he can make the throws, he has pocket presence and is a leader. He's a little undersized, but he is still 6 3. You all take whatever you hear as the all mighty truth and run with it. The owner came out and said he would hear offers for the number 1 pick. DOES THAT MEAN HE IS TRADING IT? Ever heard of a smokescreen? Gullible, some of you are. Houston is not trading the pick, unless its an RG3 type deal, and only a fool would not take a house trade like that. Teddy, will probably be the number 1 selection.
Its like the previous regime, whenever gene swiped his wand, he had you all in a trance doing the cha cha cha to what he said. Quite comical. If you wait around till the next Luck comes around, your going to look back and see that you have done nothing but waited. Theres always a good prospect in the draft, always. Sure, some drafts like last year have no clear cut prospect, and the Geno and Teddy comparisons are completely ridiculous. Teddy is a clear cut prospect, Geno is not. There will be at least 3 QB drafted in the first, two in the top 10, probably all three drafted in the top 10.
And just for your information, if you are wanting to pass on a QB this year, to get Winston next year, even if he comes out, would likely need the 1st pick in the draft. And most of you are for passing on a QB are people who are against "tanking". So, to get Winston, you are wanting us to tank next season.
I would be stunned if a QB is not taking in the top 2 rounds this year, there are prospects.
Quote:Whoever had the gallstones to say that Winston was a better qb than Bridgewater was a fool
I told you guys that right in this thread
LOL... he
is a better QB than Bridgewater.
He did what Vick couldn't do as a r-Fr in the title game.
Vick went on to have a less impressive soph season, yet still was selected first overall.
Winston has accomplished even more, so there's no reason to believe he wouldn't be the first pick next season. Easily...
Quote:LOL... he is a better QB than Bridgewater.
He did what Vick couldn't do as a r-Fr in the title game.
Vick went on to have a less impressive soph season, yet still was selected first overall.
Winston has accomplished even more, so there's no reason to believe he wouldn't be the first pick next season. Easily...
i would enjoy seeing where it is documented that jameis IS a better QB than teddy.
Quote:http://espn.go.com/college-football/stat...backRating
There are lies, damn lies and statistics...
Look up Elways college qbr compared to his counter parts lol
If you have to throw at stats like qbr I sincerely question your ability to evaluate talent at any level of football or sports in general
No offense pirks but dang I didn't know you were this clueless
Quote:No offense pirks but dang I didn't know you were this clueless
lol, stick around, it gets better... (or worse)
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Put Jameis on TAMU or Louisville and those are losing teams
Bridgewater as a qb was miles ahead of vick
Bridgewater as a qb is miles ahead of Winston
Winston is good and possesses great physical tools but he is still on the rudimentary get the calls from the sideline and one read check down stuff. His pocket presence is lacking and his ability to sift through progressions is lmited
A neophyte in all honesty
Granted Winston is young and has another 3 years to develop all that but he is no where close to being on Bridgewater's level. Heck I think even Johnny is better at this point
Quote:http://espn.go.com/college-football/stat...backRating
If that's what you're going by then Kellen Moore is better than Cam Newton, Andrew Luck, and Colin Kaepernick.
And Colt McCoy, Mark Sanchez, Graham Harrell, Nate Davis, and your personal favorite Joe Ganz. All better than Matt Stafford
Winston was looking like the second coming of the Jaguars version of Byron Leftwich last night. Anybody putting him above Teddy right now if he was able to declare for 2014 is just fooling themselves. Honestly, I'd probably rate Hackenberg from PSU above him at this point.
Quote:Winston was looking like the second coming of the Jaguars version of Byron Leftwich last night. Anybody putting him above Teddy right now if he was able to declare for 2014 is just fooling themselves. Honestly, I'd probably rate Hackenberg from PSU above him at this point.
To be honest with you, I agree on that
Hackenburg has all his physical tools plus a stronger arm but is even more pro ready than Winston
If Manziel was 6'5 235 and less of a punk, he'd go first overall no doubt.