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Quote:You have me a little confused TMD. 

 

You praise Andy Reid, but he is part of an organization who just gave up a second rounder to acquire the "game manager" Alex Smith. 

 

Doesn't that mean that Andy Reid is just setting up the Chiefs for years and years of mediocrity?  Since you know, Alex Smith will never win a Super Bowl. 
 

The thing about Andy Reid is, he is so good with QB that he has a little bit of an ego - he thinks he can win with just about ANY QB, and part of that is the overachievement he's had with complete crap at QB like AJ Feeley for example. Its a blessing and a curse. 
Quote:All correctable/ Coachable.


You can't coach up the kinds of attributes that Mallett already does possess.


In that case, let's sign Jamarcus Russell.

Quote:Mallett's intermediate game in college was very good. Chunks of yardage at a time. Passes completed in tight coverage perfectly over the shoulder.


Honest question and I'm not trying to be facetious: have you seen him play? Or did you watch a few seconds of a YouTube highlight clip followed by a google check of his collegiate YPA for you to make up your mind?
Quote:I don't understand how they let you be a mod. You resort to name calling and childish tactics, sometimes pushing an agenda worse than TMD. If someone doesn't agree with your opinion, you immediately call them stupid and seldom provide any useful information into a back and forth. What makes your opinion worth more than someone else's? Where are your paychecks for scouting and evaluating players? Do you have a list of you historically being right about every player you have pined over or condemned that would allow us to say that historically you know what you're talking about? Or should we just take it as Pirkster, the mod, said "Bridgewater sucks you imbeciles, now stop having original thought." If you want to reference sheep, you, yourself are trying to create an environment of sheep with you as the shepherd and it really lowers the quality of conversation on these forums.
 

Even though insults are supposedly against CoC, I was told by a mod that for all intents and purposes, insults are allowed, which is why posts like this are common amongst mods and people who bash those who don't succumb to the dominant paradigm on a given topic.

 

Now the standard is your post has to contribute something to the thread in question.  Of course, there are plenty of people who violate that who don't have their posts deleted, etc., so go figure.
Quote:Saying the above about a guy like Andy Dalton and the kind of game he has seems a lot more likely than saying it about the kind of game Mallett has shown in college. 

 

Mallett was a playmaker. Chunks of yardage at a time. Dalton is a guy that cannot complete the intemediate / longer passes with any sort of consistency, hence his weak YPA. 
 

Dalton averaged over 9 YPA his Senior Year in College also.  :yes:
Quote:The thing about Andy Reid is, he is so good with QB that he has a little bit of an ego - he thinks he can win with just about ANY QB, and part of that is the overachievement he's had with complete crap at QB like AJ Feeley for example. Its a blessing and a curse. 
 

So we're lucky Reid didn't come here, he would have maybe improved Gabbert enough to be a game manager and then we could never be within reach of drafting a franchise QB.

 

Thank God we dodged the Andy Reid bullet!! Smile
Quote:Dalton averaged over 9 YPA his Senior Year in College also.  :yes:
 

Yes, but watch footage of Dalton in college compared to Mallett and then come back here and tell me who was the one completing more passes that were chunks of yardage consistently. Dalton's the kind of QB that would get an occasional deep pass completed but also got some of his high YPA on YAC yards from shorter passes. Mallett was a gunslinger. 

Quote:So we're lucky Reid didn't come here, he would have maybe improved Gabbert enough to be a game manager and then we could never be within reach of drafting a franchise QB.

 

Thank God we dodged the Andy Reid bullet!! Smile
 

I know some of this is in jest, but to be honest, Andy probably would have gotten the absolute most out of Gabbert that probably could have been got, if past performance working with with QB is any indicator. Reid has gotten absolute turds to be effective. 
Quote:Yes, but watch footage of Dalton in college compared to Mallett and then come back here and tell me who was the one completing more passes that were chunks of yardage consistently. Dalton's the kind of QB that would get an occasional deep pass completed but also got some of his high YPA on YAC yards from shorter passes. 
 

Mallet got his YPA also because of a lot of YAC.. After all, he had a superior supporting cast. 

I watched Mallet a lot.  He was pretty good, but I think you are overrating him quite a bit. 

 

It could turn out that Mallet would be just another Glennon.  Giant 6'7" guys with cannons that are very limited in a lot of other ways.
I actually had a dream last night that the Jaguars gave up the third overall pick and a third-round pick this year, along with a first-round pick next year, to trade up to one overall and take Bridgewater.

 

I'm not yet sure how I feel about my "dream scenario".

I would take that trade. In a heartbeat. With Teddy just about a sure thing as a Franchise QB, that's worth more than any other single player.

Quote:I actually had a dream last night that the Jaguars gave up the third overall pick and a third-round pick this year, along with a first-round pick next year, to trade up to one overall and take Bridgewater.

 

I'm not yet sure how I feel about my "dream scenario".
 

welp.....that certainly sounds like Caldwell or something he might have picked up along the way....i.e. Julio Jones deal....
Quote:welp.....that certainly sounds like Caldwell or something he might have picked up along the way....i.e. Julio Jones deal....


Probably wouldn't say picked up along the way. From what I read, Caldwell was the guy who pushed for the Julio Jones trade.
Especially after watching RG3 tank, I'm not a fan of spending multiple first-round picks on anyone. If you're giving up next year's first to jump back into the end of this year's first round and draft an extra guy, fine, but trading away a future first-round pick to jump up in the order of this year's first round scares me.

 

That said, I do remember being thrilled in my dream about how Caldwell didn't have to give up any second-round picks. I need to lay off the booze before bed.

Quote:Dalton is not only 0-3 in the playoffs, but he's been ineffective in all 3 games. Thats no accident. He's the kind of QB that can beat bad to average teams in the regular season, but cannot put a team on his back and win when the stakes are elevated in the playoffs. 
 

What is Ryan Mallet's record in the playoffs?
Quote:Probably wouldn't say picked up along the way. From what I read, Caldwell was the guy who pushed for the Julio Jones trade.
 

ugh, thats not making me feel better....
Quote:Especially after watching RG3 tank, I'm not a fan of spending multiple first-round picks on anyone. If you're giving up next year's first to jump back into the end of this year's first round and draft an extra guy, fine, but trading away a future first-round pick to jump up in the order of this year's first round scares me.

 

 
 

Here, here (hear?) Wink
If RG3 becomes an elite QB, which his rookie year showed he could be, then the Redskins trade may be an actually win for the 'skins, not the Rams.

It's only been 2 years.  We'll see how it turns out in the long run.

 

If the Redskins win a superbowl in 5 years, and the Rams haven't, then the trade is obviously the better one for the Rams.  It's a little too early.

Quote:I don't understand how they let you be a mod. You resort to name calling and childish tactics, sometimes pushing an agenda worse than TMD. If someone doesn't agree with your opinion, you immediately call them stupid and seldom provide any useful information into a back and forth. What makes your opinion worth more than someone else's? Where are your paychecks for scouting and evaluating players? Do you have a list of you historically being right about every player you have pined over or condemned that would allow us to say that historically you know what you're talking about? Or should we just take it as Pirkster, the mod, said "Bridgewater sucks you imbeciles, now stop having original thought." If you want to reference sheep, you, yourself are trying to create an environment of sheep with you as the shepherd and it really lowers the quality of conversation on these forums.


A moderator with an edge.....imagine that? I was told that TMD is up for moderator. (-:
I wanna be a mod!

Quote:His size and durability does not take away from his qbing ability.
You should be a draft scout because you're really smart
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