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(11-29-2018, 10:52 AM)Jay Carter 904 Wrote: [ -> ] (11-29-2018, 10:31 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]You should probably prepare yourself for Blake playing somewhere else next year. He's done as a Jaguar.
(11-29-2018, 10:34 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]Exactly. I am not sure how anyone doesn't think there won't be a vet AND a newly drafted QB on this roster next year.
Bortles should get a head start on finding a good realtor for that beach house or rent it out to college students.
Check out your organization. If a vet QB isn't signed, Blake will be the starter next season. This franchise has screwed up twice and started a rookie before their time. They wont let it happen again. TC isn't gonna let that happen again.
A vet will be signed whether it is a "Flacco" type or maybe even Bridgewater (he is a vet by now, right?)
There is simply no chance Bortles is on our roster next year.
(11-29-2018, 10:52 AM)Jay Carter 904 Wrote: [ -> ] (11-29-2018, 10:31 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]You should probably prepare yourself for Blake playing somewhere else next year. He's done as a Jaguar.
(11-29-2018, 10:34 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]Exactly. I am not sure how anyone doesn't think there won't be a vet AND a newly drafted QB on this roster next year.
Bortles should get a head start on finding a good realtor for that beach house or rent it out to college students.
Check out your organization. If a vet QB isn't signed, Blake will be the starter next season. This franchise has screwed up twice and started a rookie before their time. They wont let it happen again. TC isn't gonna let that happen again.
He's done man. You have to face it. How can you bench Blake for Cody Kessler and then start out next year saying Blake gives you the best chance to win? It won't happen. Unless Kessler gets hurt, Blake has thrown his last (off target, duck wobble) pass as a Jag.
They are going to cut Blake. Eat the dead money. Start Kessler (if he plays well) or start the young QB and hope you can surround the young guy with a solid running game and defense until they can be the leader.
(11-29-2018, 10:55 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ] (11-29-2018, 10:52 AM)Jay Carter 904 Wrote: [ -> ]Check out your organization. If a vet QB isn't signed, Blake will be the starter next season. This franchise has screwed up twice and started a rookie before their time. They wont let it happen again. TC isn't gonna let that happen again.
He's done man. You have to face it. How can you bench Blake for Cody Kessler and then start out next year saying Blake gives you the best chance to win? It won't happen. Unless Kessler gets hurt, Blake has thrown his last (off target, duck wobble) pass as a Jag.
They are going to cut Blake. Eat the dead money. Start Kessler (if he plays well) or start the young QB and hope you can surround the young guy with a solid running game and defense until they can be the leader.
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Blake is like a penny stock that had a few good trading days and got you all excited.
(11-29-2018, 10:54 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ] (11-29-2018, 10:52 AM)Jay Carter 904 Wrote: [ -> ]Check out your organization. If a vet QB isn't signed, Blake will be the starter next season. This franchise has screwed up twice and started a rookie before their time. They wont let it happen again. TC isn't gonna let that happen again.
A vet will be signed whether it is a "Flacco" type or maybe even Bridgewater (he is a vet by now, right?)
There is simply no chance Bortles is on our roster next year.
But, will the FO be ok with releasing him and Blake counting $16.5 mil against the cap. No team in their right mind is going to trade a 7th rounder and take on his salary.
(11-29-2018, 10:57 AM)Jagsfan32277 Wrote: [ -> ] (11-29-2018, 10:54 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]A vet will be signed whether it is a "Flacco" type or maybe even Bridgewater (he is a vet by now, right?)
There is simply no chance Bortles is on our roster next year.
But, will the FO be ok with releasing him and Blake counting $16.5 mil against the cap. No team in their right mind is going to trade a 7th rounder and take on his salary.
Well, that depends if Caldwell is still involved in decision making. He is as stubborn a GM as there has ever been and refuses to admit his mistakes.
I wouldn't be shocked if Bortles is on the roster next year. In what capacity I don't know. No one else should be shocked when it happens either.
(11-29-2018, 10:57 AM)Jagsfan32277 Wrote: [ -> ] (11-29-2018, 10:54 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]A vet will be signed whether it is a "Flacco" type or maybe even Bridgewater (he is a vet by now, right?)
There is simply no chance Bortles is on our roster next year.
But, will the FO be ok with releasing him and Blake counting $16.5 mil against the cap. No team in their right mind is going to trade a 7th rounder and take on his salary.
Yes. They will be ok eating that money because it's better than paying him 21 million to be on the roster.
(11-29-2018, 10:58 AM)old_man Wrote: [ -> ]I wouldn't be shocked if Bortles is on the roster next year. In what capacity I don't know. No one else should be shocked when it happens either.
A ton of people will be shocked and a ton of people who write for the Jags. Oesher says he's most likely cut and he's the closest writer to the Jags. He's also extremely optimistic and even he says he's cut.
You just can't bring him back and then somehow justify he gives them the best chance to win. A 21 million dollar backup? No way.
(11-29-2018, 10:54 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ] (11-29-2018, 10:52 AM)Jay Carter 904 Wrote: [ -> ]Check out your organization. If a vet QB isn't signed, Blake will be the starter next season. This franchise has screwed up twice and started a rookie before their time. They wont let it happen again. TC isn't gonna let that happen again.
A vet will be signed whether it is a "Flacco" type or maybe even Bridgewater (he is a vet by now, right?)
There is simply no chance Bortles is on our roster next year.
(11-29-2018, 10:55 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ] (11-29-2018, 10:52 AM)Jay Carter 904 Wrote: [ -> ]Check out your organization. If a vet QB isn't signed, Blake will be the starter next season. This franchise has screwed up twice and started a rookie before their time. They wont let it happen again. TC isn't gonna let that happen again.
He's done man. You have to face it. How can you bench Blake for Cody Kessler and then start out next year saying Blake gives you the best chance to win? It won't happen. Unless Kessler gets hurt, Blake has thrown his last (off target, duck wobble) pass as a Jag.
They are going to cut Blake. Eat the dead money. Start Kessler (if he plays well) or start the young QB and hope you can surround the young guy with a solid running game and defense until they can be the leader.
My bad fellas. I wasn't aware you guys worked that closely with Dave Caldwell and Tom Coughlin.
Head board, we got a couple of insiders.
He still will count 9 mil is dead money. He at worst is a serviceable backup.
(11-29-2018, 11:00 AM)Jay Carter 904 Wrote: [ -> ] (11-29-2018, 10:54 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]A vet will be signed whether it is a "Flacco" type or maybe even Bridgewater (he is a vet by now, right?)
There is simply no chance Bortles is on our roster next year.
(11-29-2018, 10:55 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]He's done man. You have to face it. How can you bench Blake for Cody Kessler and then start out next year saying Blake gives you the best chance to win? It won't happen. Unless Kessler gets hurt, Blake has thrown his last (off target, duck wobble) pass as a Jag.
They are going to cut Blake. Eat the dead money. Start Kessler (if he plays well) or start the young QB and hope you can surround the young guy with a solid running game and defense until they can be the leader.
My bad fellas. I wasn't aware you guys worked that closely with Dave Caldwell and Tom Coughlin.
Head board, we got a couple of insiders.
It's called a difference of opinion.
I'm just looking at all the facts and coming up with my own thoughts. Just like you are when you say he will be back next year.
(11-29-2018, 11:01 AM)old_man Wrote: [ -> ]He still will count 9 mil is dead money. He at worst is a serviceable backup.
If he's on the team next year, he will cost 21 million dollars. Name me 1 21 million dollar backup?
(11-29-2018, 11:00 AM)Jay Carter 904 Wrote: [ -> ] (11-29-2018, 10:54 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]A vet will be signed whether it is a "Flacco" type or maybe even Bridgewater (he is a vet by now, right?)
There is simply no chance Bortles is on our roster next year.
(11-29-2018, 10:55 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]He's done man. You have to face it. How can you bench Blake for Cody Kessler and then start out next year saying Blake gives you the best chance to win? It won't happen. Unless Kessler gets hurt, Blake has thrown his last (off target, duck wobble) pass as a Jag.
They are going to cut Blake. Eat the dead money. Start Kessler (if he plays well) or start the young QB and hope you can surround the young guy with a solid running game and defense until they can be the leader.
My bad fellas. I wasn't aware you guys worked that closely with Dave Caldwell and Tom Coughlin.
Head board, we got a couple of insiders.
You are taking Bortles' lack of talent personally. It's just a message board discussion.
I do not think he is taking it personally. it is just in response to your comment:
"There is simply no chance Bortles is on our roster next year."
(11-29-2018, 10:54 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ] (11-29-2018, 10:52 AM)Jay Carter 904 Wrote: [ -> ]Check out your organization. If a vet QB isn't signed, Blake will be the starter next season. This franchise has screwed up twice and started a rookie before their time. They wont let it happen again. TC isn't gonna let that happen again.
A vet will be signed whether it is a "Flacco" type or maybe even Bridgewater (he is a vet by now, right?)
There is simply no chance Bortles is on our roster next year.
(11-29-2018, 10:55 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ] (11-29-2018, 10:52 AM)Jay Carter 904 Wrote: [ -> ]Check out your organization. If a vet QB isn't signed, Blake will be the starter next season. This franchise has screwed up twice and started a rookie before their time. They wont let it happen again. TC isn't gonna let that happen again.
He's done man. You have to face it. How can you bench Blake for Cody Kessler and then start out next year saying Blake gives you the best chance to win? It won't happen. Unless Kessler gets hurt, Blake has thrown his last (off target, duck wobble) pass as a Jag.
They are going to cut Blake. Eat the dead money. Start Kessler (if he plays well) or start the young QB and hope you can surround the young guy with a solid running game and defense until they can be the leader.
(11-29-2018, 11:02 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ] (11-29-2018, 11:00 AM)Jay Carter 904 Wrote: [ -> ]My bad fellas. I wasn't aware you guys worked that closely with Dave Caldwell and Tom Coughlin.
Head board, we got a couple of insiders.
It's called a difference of opinion.
I'm just looking at all the facts and coming up with my own thoughts. Just like you are when you say he will be back next year.
(11-29-2018, 11:01 AM)old_man Wrote: [ -> ]He still will count 9 mil is dead money. He at worst is a serviceable backup.
If he's on the team next year, he will cost 21 million dollars. Name me 1 21 million dollar backup?
(11-29-2018, 11:03 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ] (11-29-2018, 11:00 AM)Jay Carter 904 Wrote: [ -> ]My bad fellas. I wasn't aware you guys worked that closely with Dave Caldwell and Tom Coughlin.
Head board, we got a couple of insiders.
You are taking Bortles' lack of talent personally. It's just a message board discussion.
I bold and underlined your absolute statements.
Why would I personally invest in someone I don't know? I just use common sense and logic. Emotional Bortles haters is the only thing I see here.
(11-29-2018, 11:05 AM)old_man Wrote: [ -> ]I do not think he is taking it personally. it is just in response to your comment:
"There is simply no chance Bortles is on our roster next year."
Because how are you going to justify paying him 21 million dollars next year to either be your starter (hahahaha) or a backup?
(11-29-2018, 11:09 AM)Jay Carter 904 Wrote: [ -> ] (11-29-2018, 10:54 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]A vet will be signed whether it is a "Flacco" type or maybe even Bridgewater (he is a vet by now, right?)
There is simply no chance Bortles is on our roster next year.
(11-29-2018, 10:55 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]He's done man. You have to face it. How can you bench Blake for Cody Kessler and then start out next year saying Blake gives you the best chance to win? It won't happen. Unless Kessler gets hurt, Blake has thrown his last (off target, duck wobble) pass as a Jag.
They are going to cut Blake. Eat the dead money. Start Kessler (if he plays well) or start the young QB and hope you can surround the young guy with a solid running game and defense until they can be the leader.
(11-29-2018, 11:02 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]It's called a difference of opinion.
I'm just looking at all the facts and coming up with my own thoughts. Just like you are when you say he will be back next year.
If he's on the team next year, he will cost 21 million dollars. Name me 1 21 million dollar backup?
(11-29-2018, 11:03 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]You are taking Bortles' lack of talent personally. It's just a message board discussion.
I bold and underlined your absolute statements.
Why would I personally invest in someone I don't know? I just use common sense and logic. Emotional Bortles haters is the only thing I see here.
I don't hate Blake at all. I just think he's a bad QB and his play certainly proves that.
I also see that they most likely don't want to pay him 21 million dollars next season to be the starter or backup. Can you really trot him out as the starter next year?
Simple math you cut him you only save 4.5 million.
You can't even get a backup for that money
(11-29-2018, 11:25 AM)old_man Wrote: [ -> ]Simple math you cut him you only save 4.5 million.
You can't even get a backup for that money
Ummm Colt McCoy is the 6th highest paid backup and he makes 3.6 million. So... Yes you can. Foles is the highest paid backup at 9 million dollars.
(11-29-2018, 11:09 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ] (11-29-2018, 11:05 AM)old_man Wrote: [ -> ]I do not think he is taking it personally. it is just in response to your comment:
"There is simply no chance Bortles is on our roster next year."
Because how are you going to justify paying him 21 million dollars next year to either be your starter (hahahaha) or a backup?
(11-29-2018, 11:09 AM)Jay Carter 904 Wrote: [ -> ]I bold and underlined your absolute statements.
Why would I personally invest in someone I don't know? I just use common sense and logic. Emotional Bortles haters is the only thing I see here.
I don't hate Blake at all. I just think he's a bad QB and his play certainly proves that.
I also see that they most likely don't want to pay him 21 million dollars next season to be the starter or backup. Can you really trot him out as the starter next year?
Yes! If they don't sign a vet QB. Which they may or may not do.
(11-29-2018, 12:11 PM)Jay Carter 904 Wrote: [ -> ] (11-29-2018, 11:09 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]Because how are you going to justify paying him 21 million dollars next year to either be your starter (hahahaha) or a backup?
I don't hate Blake at all. I just think he's a bad QB and his play certainly proves that.
I also see that they most likely don't want to pay him 21 million dollars next season to be the starter or backup. Can you really trot him out as the starter next year?
Yes! If they don't sign a vet QB. Which they may or may not do.
So you bench Blake in 2018. Roster gets worse because you have no money to sign anyone. Roll him out week 1 and with a straight face say "He gives us the best chance to win"? I just don't buy it.
Cut Blake. Draft a QB round 1. Sign a vet for around 4 million.
It's not hard. What is hard is paying Blake 21 million next year.
(11-29-2018, 12:08 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ] (11-29-2018, 11:25 AM)old_man Wrote: [ -> ]Simple math you cut him you only save 4.5 million.
You can't even get a backup for that money
Ummm Colt McCoy is the 6th highest paid backup and he makes 3.6 million. So... Yes you can. Foles is the highest paid backup at 9 million dollars.
And Colt McCoy is worse than Bortles.... You don't think salaries will increase at all next season?
You are proving the point. Good job!
(11-29-2018, 12:16 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ] (11-29-2018, 12:11 PM)Jay Carter 904 Wrote: [ -> ]Yes! If they don't sign a vet QB. Which they may or may not do.
So you bench Blake in 2018. Roster gets worse because you have no money to sign anyone. Roll him out week 1 and with a straight face say "He gives us the best chance to win"? I just don't buy it.
Cut Blake. Draft a QB round 1. Sign a vet for around 4 million.
It's not hard. What is hard is paying Blake 21 million next year.
What veteran are you going to pay for 4 million a year that is worth a damn?
(11-29-2018, 11:25 AM)old_man Wrote: [ -> ]Simple math you cut him you only save 4.5 million.
You can't even get a backup for that money
Kessler makes less than 1 mil per year
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